Why doesn't Apple skip the iPhone 7 September launch

[AFEPPL]

6S, its an apple device i believe.
2GB as an innovative features. its only a requirement due to the bloat in iOS - just fix the real problem!

Edge screen and OLED are both great features, windows phone UI is a refreshing take, water proof features from LG i think?? The module approach for interchangeable parts from google.. Outside the box things.

Also split off new software and hardware releases, it would be better in the long run.

 

[C DM]

6S, its an apple device i believe.
2GB as an innovative features. its only a requirement due to the bloat in iOS - just fix the real problem!

Edge screen and OLED are both great features, windows phone UI is a refreshing take, water proof features from LG i think?? The module approach for interchangeable parts from google.. Outside the box things.

Also split off new software and hardware releases, it would be better in the long run.

If you think that upgrading hardware isn't really needed and the OS and software just needs to be optimized and that's it, then it sounds like there's likely not much to discuss given that skewed approach.

 

[maxsix]

Because Apple makes a lot of money with every new phone release.

Precisely!

No matter what it offers or doesn't offer, iPhones just sell.

 

[AFEPPL]

I agree on the not much to discuss front as i don't believe a CPU change once a year constitutes a real upgrade or innovation. As i say, just increment the number every qtr and be done with it.

 

[bufffilm]

6S, its an apple device i believe.
2GB as an innovative features. its only a requirement due to the bloat in iOS - just fix the real problem!

Edge screen and OLED are both great features, windows phone UI is a refreshing take, water proof features from LG i think?? The module approach for interchangeable parts from google.. Outside the box things.

Also split off new software and hardware releases, it would be better in the long run.

Agree that Apple needs to revamp, streamline and improve iOS...don't know if Apple do it though. They seem to want to concentrate on hardware features over extending the software side of things.

OLED screens will come eventually (I hope)...but my hope that 4.7" model will get it the same year as the larger screen phones. rumors suggest the first year Apple produces the screens, the supply chain may only permit them to put it in the premium model eg the larger 5.5" phone...we will have to see.

 

[I7guy]

6S, its an apple device i believe.
2GB as an innovative features. its only a requirement due to the bloat in iOS - just fix the real problem!

Edge screen and OLED are both great features, windows phone UI is a refreshing take, water proof features from LG i think?? The module approach for interchangeable parts from google.. Outside the box things.

Also split off new software and hardware releases, it would be better in the long run.

None of those that you quoted are innovations either. Just a laundry list of features.

 

[Jimmy James]

Why didn't Apple just skip all the prior iPhone versions until they could release the supreme excellence that will be the iPhone 8?

 

[Applefan4]

Why didn't Apple just skip all the prior iPhone versions until they could release the supreme excellence that will be the iPhone 8?

My very reliable sources tell me that iPhone 11S is where it'll be at, so Apple should just hold off releasing new iPhones until it's ready

 

[lordofthereef]

And then there were times like the whole teardrop design that was talked about for a while only to end up nowhere at all.

It was talked about but afaik there was absolutely zero part leaks. I still promise to eat my shoelaces if the next phone looks drastically different than what we have already seen. Really.

 

[C DM]

It was talked about but afaik there was absolutely zero part leaks. I still promise to eat my shoelaces if the next phone looks drastically different than what we have already seen. Really.

Part of the problem is what's a part leak vs. just a rumor or someone's rendering or some part from something else entirely they is passed off as something different.

 

[lordofthereef]

Part of the problem is what's a part leak vs. just a rumor or someone's rendering or some part from something else entirely they is passed off as something different.

I mean, the things in referring to were never only images. Once you have a tangible mound and/or she'll, you've either got an incredibly dedicated fake (to date, haven't really seen that), or you've got the real thing. Couple that with sources that have been right time and again and you start to paint a decent picture.

My laces are ready.

 

[Dave245]

Because people like myself who still own the 6 or 6 Plus want to upgrade to the 7 or 7 Plus. Further still there are people who like to upgrade evey year. If Apple announce an amazing iPhone next year i will probably get that one and sell the 7 Plus. It all depends on the individual and what they deem as worthy to upgrade too. Some people it takes more features than others, for example this year would normally be a redesign but the fact that Apple might keep the same design as my 6 Plus doesn't bother me and won't keep me from buying the 7 Plus.

 

[jimbo1mcm]

I'm excited about the Iphone 7 launch just to see how Phil and Ted try and convince us that an outdated design is really good for us.

 

[ZEEN0j]

6S, its an apple device i believe.
2GB as an innovative features. its only a requirement due to the bloat in iOS - just fix the real problem!

Edge screen and OLED are both great features, windows phone UI is a refreshing take, water proof features from LG i think?? The module approach for interchangeable parts from google.. Outside the box things.

Also split off new software and hardware releases, it would be better in the long run.

Since when was Apple the first with anything? They wait and wait until a feature is mature enough. They then take it, modify it into a great package and sell millions. And adding 2gb is of course needed. Not because the Os is badly coded. But because we are moving forward and things get bigger.

 

[AFEPPL]

2GB is not needed on W10 and that's a desktop real OS.
2GB for a "mobile OS" is a joke that you are not able to move between tabs on a browser without it reloading the page. it's bloated. I never said badly coded, you came to that conclusion without me. I'm not qualified to make that judgement even after 20 years working in technology with many of the worlds largest software companies.

If it's about numbers, other devices have 4GB RAM - should apple just throw 4GB in because others do in the name of "innovation" ?

None of those that you quoted are innovations either. Just a laundry list of features.

if they're not features, id love to hear what is...
space grey? glass screen? white box? apple logo? bendgate? 1970 bug?

 

[ABC5S]

2GB is not needed on W10 and that's a desktop real OS.
2GB for a "mobile OS" is a joke that you are not able to move between tabs on a browser without it reloading the page. it's bloated. I never said badly coded, you came to that conclusion without me. I'm not qualified to make that judgement even after 20 years working in technology with many of the worlds largest software companies.

If it's about numbers, other devices have 4GB RAM - should apple just throw 4GB in because others do in the name of "innovation" ?

if they're not features, id love to hear what is...
space grey? glass screen? white box? apple logo? bendgate? 1970 bug?

Here you go again ranting about the iPhone 4 is all we needed as posted before. Give it a break. 2 GB was needed. Look at Samsungs Galaxy offering with 3 GB and still has some lag. Then you go on a rant about features. Stop this

 

[AFEPPL]

I didn't mention 4 again! if you need help reading let us know.
Why dont you "give it a break" - you still have not been able to list a single changing "feature" over the last few years (thats a time frame not a model btw). Yeah lets copy others and claim to be an innovator, be it size, memory, low power mode, news apps, PAs, it's about apple not other vendors.

You appear to be happy with a new incremental number every year and nothing new. Just buy a new case, you'll be sorted.
Other people want some innovation, to move forward and try new things even if they fail.

 

[I7guy]

Here you go again ranting about the iPhone 4 is all we needed as posted before. Give it a break. 2 GB was needed. Look at Samsungs Galaxy offering with 3 GB and still has some lag. Then you go on a rant about features. Stop this

One person's innovation is another person's meh. Look at Samsung Galaxy, kitchen sink approach to the feature list but no real innovation. 8 cores, 4gb and people still complain about lag.

And they all copy each other just like car manufacturers.
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2GB is not needed on W10 and that's a desktop real OS.
2GB for a "mobile OS" is a joke that you are not able to move between tabs on a browser without it reloading the page. it's bloated. I never said badly coded, you came to that conclusion without me. I'm not qualified to make that judgement even after 20 years working in technology with many of the worlds largest software companies.

If it's about numbers, other devices have 4GB RAM - should apple just throw 4GB in because others do in the name of "innovation" ?



if they're not features, id love to hear what is...
space grey? glass screen? white box? apple logo? bendgate? 1970 bug?

I'll mention the most obvious innovation; Touch ID. 3dt us another that will wind up by being copied profusely.

Lag gate anyone? Shatter gate? Two nice features of the competition. However now we're getting silly.

 

[Sunny1990]

No can't skip i love the iPhone 6 design. The design will not bother me

 

[ABC5S]

2GB is not needed on W10 and that's a desktop real OS.
2GB for a "mobile OS" is a joke that you are not able to move between tabs on a browser without it reloading the page. it's bloated. I never said badly coded, you came to that conclusion without me. I'm not qualified to make that judgement even after 20 years working in technology with many of the worlds largest software companies.

If it's about numbers, other devices have 4GB RAM - should apple just throw 4GB in because others do in the name of "innovation" ?



if they're not features, id love to hear what is...
space grey? glass screen? white box? apple logo? bendgate? 1970 bug?

I didn't mention 4 again! if you need help reading let us know.
Why dont you "give it a break" - you still have not been able to list a single changing "feature" over the last few years (thats a time frame not a model btw). Yeah lets copy others and claim to be an innovator, be it size, memory, low power mode, news apps, PAs, it's about apple not other vendors.

You appear to be happy with a new incremental number every year and nothing new. Just buy a new case, you'll be sorted.
Other people want some innovation, to move forward and try new things even if they fail.

You didn't have to mention the iPhone 4, but, in your previous post/thread you did mention that it was all one needs, and nothing after the iPhone 4 had features that anyone needed including 2 GB of memory. You mention again in this thread about the memory, and that it was a joke. TouchID is a great feature. You don't think so. More memory, specially for those that have seen hick-ups/lags in the 6 and 6+, and you think this is not a good addition ? IOS in the 5.5 inch iPhone is a good feature, as well as the others I mention and worth upgrading to including those that use their phones for photography. The iPhone 4 has a lousy camera. Your thinking process is flawed when it comes to what is worth upgrading to.

 

[AFEPPL]

lol, i could retort about flawed thinking but that would be a personal attack and is not allowed on the forum..

2GB a worth while feature? it's more of a requirement due to the bloat in iOS to address what you called lag! But it does serve a purpose, however it's not innovation is it. its a work around.
TouchID I like but the settings are so dialled down to reduce error rates, but it's still not an apple innovation is it, i already told you where this came from and when. So again i ask how is it apples innovation?
5.5" screens, is also not an innovation and it's another copied tick box copied from samsung i think?? so how is that innovation?

"if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it".
However, the problem with that logic is the fact that the tech world is not static. Everyone is continuously trying to gain an edge over competition. Aaron Souppouris puts it: When did Apple become the boring one? Among the three giants in the US – Apple is now the least innovative.

As Forbes said, "Take risks now and do something bold. You won’t regret it"
Arguing with anyone who doesn't understand the meaning of innovation is my mistake, but that's easy to fix,

It's all about the logo

 

[I7guy]

Is that why some phones come with octacores and 4gb, because those mobile operating systems are so efficient?

Finger print scanners were not invented by apple, but touch id is an innovation as they way it was implemented, hooking into a number of apps including financial apps.

Screen size is not an innovation either, no matter what the size. An 85 inch tv is no more an innovation than a 32 inch tv.

There isn't any real innovation on a lot of "non-logo" mobile devices, just a laundry list of features and specs that have come and gone and have been there before and look good on paper.

Yes, it's all about the logo, indeed.

 

[C DM]

So why are there 2016 BMW models when they look like the 2015 and don't have much new aside from minor tweaks here and there. Why isn't the car industry being questioned about this kind of thing when they have been doing for decades and decades?

 

[rijc99]

Please tell me you're trolling us because if not.... .

 

[AFEPPL]

Is that why some phones come with octacores and 4gb, because those mobile operating systems are so efficient?

Finger print scanners were not invented by apple, but touch id is an innovation as they way it was implemented, hooking into a number of apps including financial apps.

Screen size is not an innovation either, no matter what the size. An 85 inch tv is no more an innovation than a 32 inch tv.

There isn't any real innovation on a lot of "non-logo" mobile devices, just a laundry list of features and specs that have come and gone and have been there before and look good on paper.

Yes, it's all about the logo, indeed.

Doesn't the oct cores and 4GB mean those brands are more innovative by some peoples flawed thinking?
"it was needed" remember, in the same way as 2GB!

We agree, size is not an innovation, it's just a copy because others had done it. it's a tick box.
Other features like better batteries or wireless charging are not tick boxes that other vendors dreamed up are they...

Unbreakable glass/stronger screens would be an innovation, maybe depth sensing camera for better pictures? (not 3d), multi screen? Infrared and kill off all those remotes, remove the borders, remove the home button...

Let's just light up the apple logo on the iPhone (like on the rMBP) this would be ground breaking... and maybe recolour the default icons - revolutionary, and maybe a flip leather case - game changing.

Bored now, as no-one seems interested in talking about something new, or moving forward for the "phone". liking cars with 7 year billion $ development cycles to phones FFS! I'm done.