Why doesn't Apple skip the iPhone 7 September launch

[I7guy]

Doesn't the oct cores and 4GB mean those brands are more innovative by some peoples flawed thinking?
"it was needed" remember, in the same way as 2GB!

We agree, size is not an innovation, it's just a copy because others had done it. it's a tick box.
Other features like better batteries or wireless charging are not tick boxes that other vendors dreamed up are they...

Unbreakable glass/stronger screens would be an innovation, maybe depth sensing camera for better pictures? (not 3d), multi screen? Infrared and kill off all those remotes, remove the borders, remove the home button...

Let's just light up the apple logo on the iPhone (like on the rMBP) this would be ground breaking... and maybe recolour the default icons - revolutionary, and maybe a flip leather case - game changing.

Bored now, as no-one seems interested in talking about something new, or moving forward for the "phone". liking cars with 7 year billion $ development cycles to phones FFS! I'm done.

Considering the 6s is much sturdier than the s7 on youtube drop tests, apple is already in it's way.

However to bring this back to the thread, no one really knows what is going to be in the next iphone. Like the 6S was just iphone 6 with a better processor.

 

[rijc99]

I got the 6S because I liked the better camera and improved Touch ID when compared to the 6.

Oh. And I use 3D Touch quite extensively.

 

[Koobs]

If the 7 has better speakers, then to me it's a big reason to upgrade. And since many are already crapping on the 7, I should have no problems getting it on launch day.

 

[Flow39]

If the 7 has better speakers, then to me it's a big reason to upgrade. And since many are already crapping on the 7, I should have no problems getting it on launch day.

Haha even all the haters will buy it. Lines will be as long as ever I'd imagine. But if I were to listen to all the MR readers, I'd assume that Apple will sell none of these phones.

 

[lordofthereef]

I'm sure lines will be long as ever. MR members don't represent the masses. The last few years the lines around here have been filled to the brim with resellers sending handsets overseas to countries that aren't part of the universal launch day release.

I will say Apple will have to knock my socks off. I've never been this inderwhelmed with leaks not have I ever been this happy with my current phone.
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So why are there 2016 BMW models when they look like the 2015 and don't have much new aside from minor tweaks here and there. Why isn't the car industry being questioned about this kind of thing when they have been doing for decades and decades?

Do you spend any time on automobile forums? I have no idea about BMW, but this is certainly a topic of criticism in Toyota (our current vehicles) forums.

Slight tangent but my mom retired and moved in with us since she had a heart attack and we inherited her Prius. Not my car of choice but it gets great mileage. Anyway, the greatest criticism of that car is that the second gen (04-09) is too good and lasts too long. The newer cars barely get better mpg, if anything (although preliminarily good things are being said about the 2017 model), don't particularly look nicer, and people generally agree you're better off buying used than new, particularly considering the mindset of most Prius owners. Anyway, just something to add since you asked.

 

[Flow39]

I'm sure lines will be long as ever. MR members don't represent the masses. The last few years the lines around here have been filled to the brim with resellers sending handsets overseas to countries that aren't part of the universal launch day release.

I will say Apple will have to knock my socks off. I've never been this inderwhelmed with leaks not have I ever been this happy with my current phone.

That's how the lines were when I camped for the 6. I was 64th in line, but had about 20-30 people cut in front of me, all part of a big ring of resellers. They were obviously all there just to resell. They had Android phones and were totally not into the whole campout atmosphere. They purchased 2 phones each and paid all in cash given to them by their leader. They scalped almost all 6 Plus models by the time they hit me at roughly 80th in line.

Hopefully that won't happen again but yes, they do make up a big part of the lines unfortunately.

Apple will have to completely win me over for this next phone as well. I've been using Android for a while, and I just switched back to iOS. I enjoy using it, but Android is providing killer user experiences at great prices and making it difficult to want to continue purchasing Apple products.

 

[ZEEN0j]

2GB is not needed on W10 and that's a desktop real OS.
2GB for a "mobile OS" is a joke that you are not able to move between tabs on a browser without it reloading the page. it's bloated. I never said badly coded, you came to that conclusion without me. I'm not qualified to make that judgement even after 20 years working in technology with many of the worlds largest software companies.

If it's about numbers, other devices have 4GB RAM - should apple just throw 4GB in because others do in the name of "innovation" ?



if they're not features, id love to hear what is...
space grey? glass screen? white box? apple logo? bendgate? 1970 bug?

I never came to any conclusion except that they needed to add 1 more gb for whatever reason. Otherwise they wouldn't do it. You say unbreakable glass is an innovation. You really think this is something apple would create? They like any other company would buy that company or their product if this came to the market. And this is perfectly fine. Touch ID, the way it was implemented and then copied by many other phone manufactures is not a innovate feature? I do however think that releasing a phone that looks like the 6 a 2 year old phone is just lazy. Still just rumors but I hope it's not true.

 

[RadioGaGa1984]

If the 7 has better speakers, then to me it's a big reason to upgrade. And since many are already crapping on the 7, I should have no problems getting it on launch day.

Yea except those same people will be in line as well.

 

[lordofthereef]

I never came to any conclusion except that they needed to add 1 more gb for whatever reason. Otherwise they wouldn't do it. You say unbreakable glass is an innovation. You really think this is something apple would create? They like any other company would buy that company or their product if this came to the market. And this is perfectly fine. Touch ID, the way it was implemented and then copied by many other phone manufactures is not a innovate feature? I do however think that releasing a phone that looks like the 6 a 2 year old phone is just lazy. Still just rumors but I hope it's not true.

Unless I'm mistaken, the Motorola Atrix beat Apple to this same implementation by almost two years. It was on the back of the phone, but the functionality was virtually the same. If you're referring to the security features aspect, that may be a different topic and in far less versed on that side of things.

Apple did make the fingerprint scanner popular though. On that point I have no contention.

 

[ZEEN0j]

Unless I'm mistaken, the Motorola strip beat Apple to this same implementation by almost two years. It was on the back of the phone, but the functionality was virtually the same. If you're referring to the security features aspect, that may be a different topic and in far less versed on that side of things.

Apple did make the fingerprint scanner popular though. On that point I have no contention.

Didn't know that. Did it work just as good? 360 degrees recognition etc? The biggest problem that people all of a sudden expect is that Apple is the bringer of new and exiting technology. What I like about Apple is when they add something to the iPhone you know it will be there on the next as well. They don't just add things and see what sticks. They don't release it until it's ready and until they think people will use it. I'm not saying I wouldn't love having a higher resolution oled display though.

 

[lordofthereef]

Didn't know that. Did it work just as good? 360 degrees recognition etc? The biggest problem that people all of a sudden expect is that Apple is the bringer of new and exiting technology. What I like about Apple is when they add something to the iPhone you know it will be there on the next as well. They don't just add things and see what sticks. They don't release it until it's ready and until they think people will use it. I'm not saying I wouldn't love having a higher resolution oled display though.

I don't think it worked as well, no. I don't know what 360 degree recognition is (is this referring to touching at any angle, because that has never worked for me with Touch ID either), but I don't believe it had that; not to be an apologist for the device or the manufacturer, but the way it was implemented was on the back of the phone in the spot where the camera is on our iPhones and so I'm unsure that would have mattered. It was also not a button and I believe it was only active once the phone was woken up by other means. I also know that it was easier to fool, but so is first gen Touch ID compared to second gen (one of the reasons why it's puzzling Apple opted the old sensor for the SE.

You're not wrong about Apple's quality implementation. I think Apple certainly creates followers, and while some call that copying (not making a statement about you or anyone in particular here) I think it's great. Look at Apple Pay. It's making its way across the globe despite being far from first or maybe even best. Apple just had the power to make those global changes and people who have never touched an Apple product are even better for it.

 

[ZEEN0j]

By 360 degrees I mean you can unlock your phone even if it's upside down or landscape. I had a fingerprint reader on an old hp laptop but you had to slide from top to bottom or bottom to top. Anything else and you got an error. The first Samsung phones with a reader did the same thing. Now though they work like on iPhone.

 

[snow755]

i think the iphone 6S should have been call the iphone 7 has he iphone 6S got a lot of major upgrades

 

[lordofthereef]

By 360 degrees I mean you can unlock your phone even if it's upside down or landscape. I had a fingerprint reader on an old hp laptop but you had to slide from top to bottom or bottom to top. Anything else and you got an error. The first Samsung phones with a reader did the same thing. Now though they work like on iPhone.

I doubt it did that 360 degree scanning though I don't know for sure.

I just tried this on my 6s plus and was amazed it worked. I just assumed it wouldn't because it never did on my older devices (admittedly I only recall trying in the 5s). Pretty cool nonetheless and I learned something today.

 

[ABC5S]

"Why doesn't Apple skip the iPhone 7 September launch"

Tell you what OP. You can skip the 7, and wait until next year. We don't mind. Many others will go for it.

 

[C DM]

Unless I'm mistaken, the Motorola Atrix beat Apple to this same implementation by almost two years. It was on the back of the phone, but the functionality was virtually the same. If you're referring to the security features aspect, that may be a different topic and in far less versed on that side of things.

Apple did make the fingerprint scanner popular though. On that point I have no contention.

Yeah, there were certainly fingerprint implementations before iPhone, but they certainly weren't the same or even close as far as how simple and reliable they were, especially as far as typical users adopting them and using them on a very frequent daily basis without much thought or effort. In a sense similar to there being touchscreen phones before the iPhone, but not the same or even close to how the iPhone had it all set up and working that pushed most other manufacturers as well.

 

[lordofthereef]

Yeah, there were certainly fingerprint implementations before iPhone, but they certainly weren't the same or even close as far as how simple and reliable they were, especially as far as typical users adopting them and using them on a very frequent daily basis without much thought or effort. In a sense similar to there being touchscreen phones before the iPhone, but not the same or even close to how the iPhone had it all set up and working that pushed most other manufacturers as well.

I'll agree to most of this, however,
IMO, the touch screens were far more cumbersome than the fingerprint scanners.