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It is very easy to tell the difference. Find a phone with ok big good screen with 2K support. Run a nice youtube video with option to choose 720p and 1440p. You can easily tell there is big difference. 720p is not ok if the video shows some beautiful stuff.
YouTube 720p looks bad mainly because it has a low bitrate (and thus lots of video compression artifacts), not because it doesn’t have enough pixels. You will actually have a hard time to tell a difference between a 720p video and a 1440p video on a 6” phone, if both videos have sufficiently high bitrates.
 
You’re a year, or 33% off. The iPhone X was released in 2017 at a base price of $999, which is still the base price. But in 2017, you could get an iPhone 8 which had the same guts if you wanted. It’s still a fine phone and still highly recommended.

If you’re going to compare 2016 phones, which was the last year before the release of the higher-priced next gen iPhone flagships beginning with the X, you’d have to compare it to the Note 7, which admittedly was a flaming success! Lol. At least the iPhone 7 didn’t explode.

Well, this is of course a matter of point of view.

The iPhone 8 is definitely a fine phone. But we are in 2019 and nearly all phones you can find are fine ones, except perhaps for a few exceptions.

The higher-priced iPhone X was a business decision, a market gimmick of Apple to raise the price of its phones following its immense popularity.

The iPhone 7 was a lackluster upgrade to give room for Apple to release the almighty iPhone X at a higher price the next year, in a strategy of market segmentation that Steve Jobs despised.

Additional features were included in past iPhones at the same price base. The iPhone 4 introduced the Retina display at the same price point. Bigger and better screens came with the iPhone 5 and the iPhone 6. All at the same price points.

It is pretty clear that the iPhone X was the new real iPhone, and the iPhone 8 was just a carryover of the design of the iPhone 6, to optimize the supply chain and give room for an increase of price. When Apple did increase the price, it allowed the other companies to raise prices as well.

So, it is not just that the new price for flagship phones is $999. It was a deliberate business decision by Apple. I have no control over it, of course, and I had to swallow it, but I am not stupid to just believe that it was made in the best interest of the consumers.
 
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Some of it is point of view but the years that the phones were released are easily checked facts.

I don’t dispute that with the iPhone X, a new pricing tier was introduced, and one that’s been copied by their competitors with mixed success, and the new foldable Samsung at $1,980 introduces another even higher tier. But as far as introducing new features while maintaining the price point, that’s still going on. The XS and 11 Pro have both introduced many improvements to the X at the same price point, and WRT this I agree with you.
 
Coming from XS to 11, can't notice ANY difference in screen quality (except for the blacks on the OLED).
Are people just looking at specs or actually looking at the screens?
 
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I don't understand why no one sees how washed out colours on display
I can understand how you feel
My guess is they are the same people who prefer truer whites and don’t like colors saturated with an almost yellowish film over them. Just by not having the warm screen due to OLED alone makes the colors seem more vibrant and true to real life on the 11. I love my Pro Max don’t get me wrong, but eyes are funny and unique to each person. Not everyone will see the displays the way you do. I’d take the color representation of the LCD 11 all day long over the OLED (except for the blacks as that’s the one thing I see OLED performing better at)
 
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Coming from XS to 11, can't notice ANY difference in screen quality (except for the blacks on the OLED).
Are people just looking at specs or actually looking at the screens?

They’re probably looking at YouTube videos😁. But the best way to compare any display, is you have to see it in your own lighting conditions at home, comparing a Phone display in store is a bad idea in some respects, because the overhead lighting can have a drastic affect on how you see it.
 
My guess is they are the same people who prefer truer whites and don’t like colors saturated with an almost yellowish film over them. Just by not having the warm screen due to OLED alone makes the colors seem more vibrant and true to real life on the 11. I love my Pro Max don’t get me wrong, but eyes are funny and unique to each person. Not everyone will see the displays the way you do. I’d take the color representation of the LCD 11 all day long over the OLED (except for the blacks as that’s the one thing I see OLED performing better at)

I agree with your comment and and this is what I meant with my original reply. Apples LCDs are some of the best. The ipad Pro 12.9 2018 is easily one if the bed I've seen.
 
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Color is a relative thing and differs depending on many things. The Asian market has always preferred more saturated, warmer colors, and this preference predates digital. This is not good or bad. Fujinon films were noted for saturated warm colors which were used to great effect at times. I used to shoot large format color sheet film, and Fuji Velvia 50 was the gold standard for saturation and warmth. You could of course, get a much different color pallete by choosing a Fujinon color negative film or one of the Kodak Ektachromes or negative films. BTW, an 8x10 color transparency (slide film) was about $20 per shot and you usually took a 3-shot bracket, so at least $60 per scene, sometimes more. It really makes you appreciate cellphone cameras, but nothing yet compares to a perfectly exposed 8x10” color slide on a light box.
 
I bought the XR because I was utterly insulted by Apples pricing for the XS! I still don’t think the XR is worth its price tag..
Luckily all the rumours say it’ll get an OLED next year and that means a higher resolution, because if it sticks to the same low resolution and an OLED it’ll be the joke of the mobile phone world.. their are many FAR better screens out there on devices costing the same or a lot less..

if you didn’t think it was worth it’s price tag why did you buy it?
if I don’t think something is worth what they’re charging I don’t part with my money.
 
Just like Apple shows itself in a bad light by not allowing you to access things like your iCloud photos on non-Apple devices.
Let me help you out. I know people who still think the only way to backup an iPhone is by connecting it to iTunes so don't feel bad.

 
Let me help you out. I know people who still think the only way to backup an iPhone is by connecting it to iTunes so don't feel bad.


Let me help you out. The only choices for modern devices are not Windows PC or Apple.
 
An obvious upgrade for the iPhone 12 will be to bump up the resolution to 1080p (along with improvers to the cameras etc).

Presumably the A14 chip will have further power saving improvements and allow Apple to move to a more power hungry screen but still keep the same battery life.
 
if you didn’t think it was worth it’s price tag why did you buy it?
if I don’t think something is worth what they’re charging I don’t part with my money.
Because I wanted a bigger screen that had zoomed mode on the screen, the 5.8” iPhone does not have this feature, and I didn’t see the point in an older Plus style iPhone. Plus the camera in the XR and XS and this years models are far better then previous ones.
But for £800 in my view it needs to come with more, the price is comparable to the brand new flagship smaller sized Note 10!
It’ll offer better value next year when it moves to an OLED screen and with better cameras with night time mode, so long as Apple doesn’t increase the price that is..
 
My main argument for having a 1080p equivalent screen is for extended view of apps in landscape mode like you get in the Max models. For example, Mail.app. What the @&$# is the point of a massive 6.1” un-pocketable device if it still has just a blown up version of the iPhone 5 UI protocols?
 
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My main argument for having a 1080p equivalent screen is for extended view of apps in landscape mode like you get in the Max models. For example, Mail.app. What the @&$# is the point of a massive 6.1” un-pocketable device if it still has just a blown up version of the iPhone 5 UI protocols?
The Max is exactly the same, it seems to have been another feature that Apple has ditched on its new iPhones, whilst increasing the costs massively of course..
I don’t understand why they dropped extended view either? It would be nice to have it on screens bigger then Plus sized iPhone ones.
 
So many threads on this topic last year when the XR launched.



Instead, with 1080p (like on the previous Plus sized iPhones), the whole UI would have to be rendered @3x and then down scaled instead.

At the end of the day, 326ppi for their entry level phone is still excellent, and it allows them to use the same point resolution as the Max sized iPhones, but @2x instead of @3x.
So why don’t they give it the extended app UI protocols in landscape like the Max models? If the point resolution is the same, it would be a conscious choice to not do that...Big intentional fail there then...a very irritating one too.
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The Max is exactly the same, it seems to have been another feature that Apple has ditched on its new iPhones, whilst increasing the costs massively of course..
I don’t understand why they dropped extended view either? It would be nice to have it on screens bigger then Plus sized iPhone ones.
Wait, they ditched it completely on the max models as well??? What’s the point of a massive phablet if it isn’t even given phablet UI elements?!
 
So why don’t they give it the extended app UI protocols in landscape like the Max models? If the point resolution is the same, it would be a conscious choice to not do that...Big intentional fail there then...a very irritating one too.

Agreed, given that the point resolution is identical, that must have been an intentional move. Honestly I’m not sure why, I’d guess that its because the display is physically smaller so touch targets are generally smaller compared to the Max.

EDIT: Wait a sec - what is the “extended app UI protocols” that you refer to in landscape? I was just trying my wife’s XR and in apps in landscape it does go into the dual pane view for apps like Mail, Notes, etc, the same as on the Max. Is there something else you’re referring to?
 
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Agreed, given that the point resolution is identical, that must have been an intentional move. Honestly I’m not sure why, I’d guess that its because the display is physically smaller so touch targets are generally smaller compared to the Max.

EDIT: Wait a sec - what is the “extended app UI protocols” that you refer to in landscape? I was just trying my wife’s XR and in apps in landscape it does go into the dual pane view for apps like Mail, Notes, etc, the same as on the Max. Is there something else you’re referring to?

That’s exactly what I am referring to. Is you wife’s phone on iOS 13? Poster above noted that they have disappeared also on the Pro Max. Wondering if it is a conscious choice on Apple’s part for iOS 13...
 
That’s exactly what I am referring to. Is you wife’s phone on iOS 13? Poster above noted that they have disappeared also on the Pro Max. Wondering if it is a conscious choice on Apple’s part for iOS 13...

Weird - yeah, hers is on 13.1.2. The Max I was using last week was identical in this behaviour (landscape dual pane) in 13.1.2.
 
Watch the 12 move to OLED and be 1080p and everyone swoon, even though the effective resolution due to lentils will be lower than the 11
 
That 77 inch $4000-6000 lg oled 4K tv is is all nice and dandy. Except 99% of what is offered is in 720p by the broadcasters. And i don’t see a lot of people complaining about 720p on 4K tv!! Even the highest end lg oled e series tv.

720p is fine for 6 inch screen.

Apple finally gets in 2019. Battery life and camera. Focus on what people want. The 6.1 lcd screen is good for 98% of the general public. They practically all day battery life even for heavy users matters.
 
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