Because back in 2016 when I bought the 7 it was the only small ish iPhone device there was. With the iPhone X(s) and 11 pro I have that same device with a better display. It’s a smaller screen where a 720+ screen is ok. If you’re paying a premium price tag in 2018 and so forth ( release year of the XR) of $699 or higher I would like at least a 1080p screen. It’s a matter of principle. If my choice was the Pixel 3($699), 3A($349) or for $100($799) more the 4 and the iPhone 11($699) I would choose the pixel. Even with the subpar battery life of the 4 I would take that. It’s a matter of opinion and for the price I don’t want to pay for the iPhone 11 at MSRP.
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iPhone 11 Why iPhone 11 is still a "720p" phone?
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Because back in 2016 when I bought the 7 it was the only small ish iPhone device there was. With the iPhone X(s) and 11 pro I have that same device with a better display. It’s a smaller screen where a 720+ screen is ok. If you’re paying a premium price tag in 2018 and so forth ( release year of the XR) of $699 or higher I would like at least a 1080p screen. It’s a matter of principle. If my choice was the Pixel 3($699), 3A($349) or for $100($799) more the 4 and the iPhone 11($699) I would choose the pixel. Even with the subpar battery life of the 4 I would take that. It’s a matter of opinion and for the price I don’t want to pay for the iPhone 11 at MSRP.
yeah, no. When I view high resolution images such as photos, illustrations, graphic designs, books, comics, etc, on my iPhone 11 Pro it looks way better than the iPhone 11. It doesn’t look overly pixelated.
same goes for video.
the differences is very noticeable. Looks awful af on iPhone 11.
It’s pretty ridiculous that people here are just acceptant of a low resolution display. How could you not want more? No one here should really be against the idea or keeping people from wanting a higher resolution display lol
Perhaps Apple should offer more and not charge £1k+ for the better screen iPhones then? Just a thought.
The iPhone 11 is fine as far as I can see. I don’t view my design work on my phone nor do I watch videos other than YouTube. It’s not ridiculous, it’s the choice Apple have made and the mainstream market don’t seem to be complaining about it.
Ah man, I can fully appreciate choosing the device that best suits your needs / wants.
But this line:
4.7" 326ppi 750 x 1334 screen was ok
But with the XR/11, it was enlarged to 6.1", still 326ppi so the resolution grew along with the screen size to 828 x 1792.
Its not that they kept the same 750x1334 and stretched it to 6.1 causing it to use larger pixels and same screen real estate.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying one should be happy with 326ppi if they prefer higher (I prefer the 11 Pro display / higher PPI myself). Just curious why it was ok in a 4.7" display and not a 6.1" display.
For reference - here's the XR/11 side by side with the 6/7/8. Both have identical pixel density. Just one is 6.1" and other is 4.7":
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If it looks awful on the iPhone 11 with 326ppi, I can't imagine how terrible the same items must look on all iPads, iMacs, 5K and 6K displays..
Those who want a higher pixel dense display can choose the X/Xs/11 Pro. I did. For the majority of users though, guarantee they'll have no idea what pixel density is, nor that the pixel density in the 6/7/8/XR/11 is already much greater than any other Apple device they can buy.
Maybe its time we start instead pushing and complaining about getting higher densities in iPads and Macs.
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And as I said for $699 or higher why should I pay for a 720p+ device. Or you can look at it as sub 1080p however you want it’s not 1080p. I can get a better resolution phone for cheaper or about the same price as the 11 and be happy with it. I don’t care about the OS enough to be saddled with that in 2020. Thankfully the iPhone 11 Pro will cost me $150 more then the 11 and well worth spending it for a better screen.
It was tolerable in the 4.7 because it was the smaller device. In this case it’s the middle device and since we have the 5.8 I’ll gladly take that. Ignoring PPI I will still take the 5.8 device.
It’s an excellent display, quality of a display depends on so much more then just resolution.
I got a pro max but it’s simply because I use it really heavily for media consumption and am somewhat of an enthusiast but I only represent a very small minority.
It’s still not worthy of paying $699 for. I don’t care about the OS as much and I’ll take a S10e, pixel 3A, pixel 3, or pixel 4 before I’ll buy the iPhone 11. The two strikes on the iPhone 11 is the resolution and the fact it’s a LCD panel. If the iPad Pro 11 was OLED I would love it even more. I prefer the Samsung tablets but let’s be honest android tablets are dead.
Trust me - I get it. I'm not saying anyone should be happy with a display they don't like. Plenty of devices to choose from, from a variety of manufacturers.
But if asking why someone should pay $699 for a device with a 326 ppi 828 x 1792 display? Maybe because its an excellent iPhone with great battery life, fantastic camera and 99% of people won't see nor understand a difference from 326ppi to 458ppi.
In this case the Xr/11 are not the middle device. They're the entry device with the Pro model sitting above. I'd take the 5.8" Pro as well!
Thing is, it makes no sense that 4.7" 326ppi is ok but 6.1" 326ppi is ok. Somehow they're both loosely being called 720 displays. But in fact they're significantly different in screen resolution (as per the pic I posted previously).
Middle in terms of screen size.
I am not tied to the Apple and will gladly go back to Android before i would buy the 11.
It’s not ok because the fact you have a 11 pro and pro max with better ppi in the smaller or bigger form factor. If I was more sensitive to price I would avoid the 11. The 11 and 8 are both 720p+ devices. They are higher resolutions then 720 but they aren’t 1080. The fact is they aren’t 1080p
I think you need to get past looking at the lineup based on display size.
It's not:
$999 iPhone 11 Pro (5.8")
$699 iPhone 11
$1099 iPhone 11 Pro (6.5")
It's:
$699 iPhone 11 (6.1" - 326ppi LCD)
$999 iPhone 11 Pro (5.8" and 6.5" - 458ppi OLED )
Perhaps the 2020 iPhone lineup will look different based on current rumours and the two smaller sizes will be the lower end models and two larger sizes will be the higher end models.
Ok? I’m talking about screen sizes and it’s the middle between the 11 pro and pro max. It’s the worst phone of the three and one I would t buy. The screen is a DEAL BREAKER and I will get an Android device before I’ll touch that. You’re not going to change my mind. It’s a bad phone value at $699. If they lowered it to $300 maybe otherwise it’s a hard no on the 11.
Cool, you prefer the phone you own. Earth shattering take.
Many print products eben for photography come in less than 320 dpi - and all of a sudden that’s pixelated and low resolution for some folks when you look at a phone screen...
It's clear at this point that you don't understand the lineup nor even actually understand the value in a device.
The screen is a deal breaker for you. And you know what? It's a deal breaker for me too (I tried the 11 for 2 weeks and didn't like it). But get this. 99% of people (tens of millions) who are purchasing this phone will be extremely impressed by the display. They don't understand these details nor would they appreciate them like you and I.
The entry level $699 iPhone 11 has a worse display than the $999 iPhone 11 Pro and $1099 iPhone 11 Pro Max. Shocking!!! LOL
I fully understand the lineup. I just don’t agree with it. The iPhone 11 is a dealbreaker at $699. I’m not an Apple lover and will find better value with an Android device at that price. I moved to android twice because of the screens with the iPhone 4 being too small at 3.5 inches and then after the iPhone 7 because I wanted a higher res OLED Panel. I only got an iPhone again because of the iPhone X OLED panel. The value in a device the iPhone 11 is lacking. You get more for less with a pixel 3A. Unless you’re devoted to getting an iPhone.
No one cares what you do, I don’t care. Just because there’s people like you that wants to be given less for a less price, doesn’t mean there’s people there who wants more for less price. Apple can deliver on that, and they have before.
Apple only does changes when the complaints are large enough, enough people can drive Apple to give standard iPhones a better screen.
So it is ridiculous to me that you don’t wanna push Apple to increase the resolution for the cheaper iPhone.
You don’t need to know much about tech to notice that plenty of images are way over the resolution of the iPhone 11 display which makes it overly pixelated, especially when you view high res images. It looks AWFUL. And you can notice it even from a distance.
And no it doesn’t look just as awful on the higher end OLED iPhones or even the Macs. There’s way more pixels on those to fill out. Are you even on the same page as me?
Why the do people find it okay to buy the higher end phones to get a better display for a higher price? There is room for improvement on the normal iPhone models, it doesn’t need to result in a price jump.
smh I’m talking about high resolution photos displayed on a low resolution display looking over
pixelated
HIGH RESOLUTION
The higher resolution on the display, the smoother the images are on a high resolution image.
Smh if you actually read what I wrote you’d learn that all magazines and prints in the past were lower resolution than the 11 display is. Did you see these as pixelated as well? Was everything in print of such a low quality to you?
Of course not.
There you go. Let me know if you got it now or if you need further assistance.
Just buy a 11 Pro and be done with it. It’s not like Apple doesn’t make other phones besides the iPhone 11. Let those who are happy with their phones enjoy them. Buy the Android if you’re inclined. It’s pointless to keep going on and on about something you don’t even want.
That statements in bold hits the nail on the head when it comes to people complaining about the iPhone 11 being 720P. They're not iPhone/Apple customers. They're going to buy Android phones. Why would Apple listen to people who don't buy iPhones as to what should be on the iPhone. Apple listens to people who buy the products. Obviously Apple is listening to the right people if you look at the sales.
I think you’ve misunderstood me. Of course I’d like the best screen Apple can offer for a sensible price. I was only commenting from my use with a XR that the screen appears to be pretty good. I certainly don’t use it and feel it’s sub par. If Apple makes it better by the time I upgrade then I’m all for that.
At least with the iPhone 11 it has the same performance as the 11 Pro which was not the case between top phones and mid tier devices a few years ago. It even has the same camera minus the one lens and personally I think it’s a great phone and at a level I am comfortable paying for. The 11 Pro just isn’t competitive on price and despite its OLED screen, I can’t see the benefits when you can get a current iPhone for £729.
I buy tech because it’s good. I am not loyal to any brand because doing that it’s just foolish. I have an iPhone 11 Pro, iPad Pro 11 inch and an Apple Watch series 4. I also own AirPods pro and Beats solo pro. I have them because I prefer them. But if they only have the iPhone 11 I would go for an Android device. I want an OLED panel and full HD at least. Which the Samsung Galaxy S10e and various other android devices do. I can deal with an LCD panel at that price point. As far as tablets goes I prefer OLED once again and the tablets are no exception. For content consumption the Samsung Galaxy Tab S5 or whatever is the newest one is king. But that being said Android tablets are inferior to iPads and thus why I own an iPad Pro 2018 11 inch with 512GB of storage. The overall package in the end is better because it’s more then just content consumption.
I am an Apple customer fully in the Apple ecosystem for the most part. I just ain’t a fool.
No you cannot, and no you haven't. Stop it. I have 20/10 vision with my contacts in. I cannot see crap. Neither can anyone else. And neither can you. UCLA did a study on screen resolutions and over 1000 people couldn't see any pixels on a 10R. But you can. OK. No you cannot. Period. Or you have better vision than a eagle. I have a 11 pro and like my daughters 11 screen better. The 11 screen shows true white. Mine doesn't. No black crush. The colors on the 11 are also better. A OLED screen has a penile layout, so the 458 ppi is more like 405 ppi due to the fact of the missing sub pixels.
At 326ppi the iPhone 11 can play 1080p or 4k upscaled with zero issues.
I say the 11 has the better screen and I have a pro. Notice the color test toward the end of the video.
326ppi, 880p vs 1080 and 458 ppi vs 1440p and over 500ppi. Makes zero difference because your eyes cannot tell the difference. No one's can. That goes for yours too. News flash, my iPhone doesn't display 1080p either because of the OLED screens penile pixel substructure.
Wow. Why lie. I just don't get it. I have a pro and what you are saying is just crap. If you cannot see the pixels, why does it matter. Nothing looks pixelated because you cannot see the pixels. My iPad pro has a lower resolution. I cannot see pixels. Do you know how ridiculous you sound? You defy logic. Why lie about something just to make a point? I think my daughters screen on her 11 is better. And I have a pro. I feel ripped off for paying $300 more for screen I don't feel is as good. The camera isn't either. I should have bought the 11.
What you are saying is just so stupid it boggles my mind. You think people don't or didn't compare the two? You act like no one else compared them.
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Again, the sentence here above contradicted your words.
Speaking about “1080P” means you don’t understand PPI.
In 2020 human eyes aren’t changed.
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I have an S10e.
I’m using it everyday (because I need 2 phones), and it is a nice device.
Inferior to the iPhone in my opinion.
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I have an 11, and 11 Pro and an XR in my house.
I really can’t complain on the two LCD displays. They are great.
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So basically to see a difference you have to do something that I would NEVER do on my iPhone.
Interesting...
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I was referring to the display of the S10e not the overall device and experience.