Why is Apple so damn stubborn to never include notification LED in its iPhone brand?

[mercuryjones]

If you are waiting for an email why would you ignore the first email LED notification?

Try at least to use common sense.

Common sense - You get an email. The LED blinks red. You decide not to answer it. Someone calls you on your desk phone and tells you to expect an email. And your LED still blinks red. Without actually PICKING up the and an LOOKING at the notifications, how are you supposed to know if your "important" email came in?
Oh wait, you wouldn't. I guess you'll just have to pick up your phone, just like I would. And now, how are you any different?
Sorry I didn't clarify that. I'll try so much harder next time.
Seriously, it's not that hard, nor is it such a battery drain to simply click and button and view the screen. Or, are you just that lazy now?

 

[TomTomHatesCats]

Actually the way IOS handles notifications works out better for me. If I'm in viewing sight of the phone the screen turns on and gives me the info, Android just blinks and I have to turn it on and pull down from the top to see the info.

That's weird, my old Android screens woke and displayed new messages the same way iOS does now. Maybe it was a setting you didn't activate? The blinking LED thing worked independently after the screen went back to sleep.

...the Android phone has a blinking message light but you still have to turn it on and pull down the screen while in IOS you just click the home button.... Now how hard is that?

Actually, I have a question about this. Sometimes, after my iPhone wakes to display a notification, if I don't check it immediately, the lockscreen displays nothing when I wake it later. I have to activate password/TouchID, then pull down the notification screen to see the missed notifications. This happens to me intermittently.

 

[bmt134]

Common sense - You get an email. The LED blinks red. You decide not to answer it. Someone calls you on your desk phone and tells you to expect an email. And your LED still blinks red. Without actually PICKING up the and an LOOKING at the notifications, how are you supposed to know if your "important" email came in?
Oh wait, you wouldn't. I guess you'll just have to pick up your phone, just like I would. And now, how are you any different?
Sorry I didn't clarify that. I'll try so much harder next time.
Seriously, it's not that hard, nor is it such a battery drain to simply click and button and view the screen. Or, are you just that lazy now?

So the person in your scenario lacks common sense to check his email when he's waiting for an email.

COMMON SENSE

Is this something Apple needs to tell you to use before you actually use it?

 

[mercuryjones]

So the person in your scenario lacks common sense to check his email when he's waiting for an email.

COMMON SENSE

Is this something Apple needs to tell you to use before you actually use it?

No. Apparently, that's what you are for - to tell me how to best use my own technology and how I'm wrong in doing so.
Thanks, Common Sense Man.
You must be quite the hit at parties, with your self righteousness and all.

 

[mib1800]

Android had features like that early on but they were half arsed. Battery draining screen hogs = widgets. Ive already said they tried big screens with iPhone 5 prototypes and couldn't get the form and ergonomics down. I'm sure you can find some who berated big screens before who now use a 6+ but so what? You think Android users never change their minds or have irrational brand loyalty?

Android fanatics scream about functionality because they're forcefed the "freedom and choice" nonsense while never acknowledging that those choices come with compromises. Whether you like it or not, Apple holds features rather than making compromises in battery life, screen quality, etc because a quality product is more than how long of a bullet list of features you can cram into an ad.

My note3 last me a full day under the most intense use. That's good enough. And it has great number of functionalities that are useful to me. To you they may be half baked but not having any of those on iphone just means iPhone is dead in the water for me.

 

[mercuryjones]

My note3 last me a full day under the most intense use. That's good enough. And it has great number of functionalities that are useful to me. To you they may be half baked but not having any of those on iphone just means iPhone is dead in the water for me.

Granted, Samsung is on the 4th edition of the note, so they've had time to perfect many of the features now. Plus, it's got an enormous battery in it, so I would be shocked if it didn't last the day on a charge.

 

[cdaq]

Here's my take on this... I use both Android and IOS devices and when it comes to notifications I think the blinking light is overrated.

Actually the way IOS handles notifications works out better for me. If I'm in viewing sight of the phone the screen turns on and gives me the info, Android just blinks and I have to turn it on and pull down from the top to see the info.

When I'm away from the phone it's the same, sure the Android phone has a blinking message light but you still have to turn it on and pull down the screen while in IOS you just click the home button.... Now how hard is that?

Either your slow or lying. Android doesn't just blink. In fact my M8 does exactly what the iphone does: screen turns on, notification is displayed on screen and audible alert sounds. The only difference is that there is a subdued light that blinks after the screen shuts off. It's neither annoying nor distracting.
What your failing to understand about the scenario where your away is that you only need to pick up the android IF AND ONLY IF you missed an alert. With the iphone you have to pick it up regardless of if you missed something or not because YOU DONT KNOW IF YOU'VE MISSED SOMETHING!

 

[mercuryjones]

Either your slow or lying. Android doesn't just blink. In fact my M8 does exactly what the iphone does: screen turns on, notification is displayed on screen and audible alert sounds. The only difference is that there is a subdued light that blinks after the screen shuts off. It's neither annoying nor distracting.
What your failing to understand about the scenario where your away is that you only need to pick up the android IF AND ONLY IF you missed an alert. With the iphone you have to pick it up regardless of if you missed something or not because YOU DONT KNOW IF YOU'VE MISSED SOMETHING!

Again. I don't pick up my phone. I get back to my desk and I push the home button. Notifications are then displayed and I decide if I want to respond to any of them./ It's not some huge ordeal where I have to jump through hoops and sacrifice a small animal just to view a notification. A blinking LED saves me at most a second of time and maybe .0001% of battery life.

 

[BigHonkingDeal]

Yeah, I must be lying.....

Either your slow or lying. Android doesn't just blink. In fact my M8 does exactly what the iphone does: screen turns on, notification is displayed on screen and audible alert sounds. The only difference is that there is a subdued light that blinks after the screen shuts off. It's neither annoying nor distracting.
What your failing to understand about the scenario where your away is that you only need to pick up the android IF AND ONLY IF you missed an alert. With the iphone you have to pick it up regardless of if you missed something or not because YOU DONT KNOW IF YOU'VE MISSED SOMETHING!

 

[bmt134]

No. Apparently, that's what you are for - to tell me how to best use my own technology and how I'm wrong in doing so.
Thanks, Common Sense Man.
You must be quite the hit at parties, with your self righteousness and all.

Why don't you take a step back and see who is telling whom how tonuse their technology.

Isn't it time for school yet?

 

[TomTomHatesCats]

It's not some huge ordeal where I have to jump through hoops and sacrifice a small animal just to view a notification.

Correct, it's not a huge ordeal, it's just a convenience that some of us regret not having in iOS.

This whole thing has gotten way out of hand with personal attacks from both sides over a tiny notification LED that can be turned on or off at will.

 

[mrochester]

OP I'm actually with you on this one

So many people miss the point. Notification led isn't for when you get a notification while looking at the phone... It's more useful for when you've actually missed something and return to your phone. Yes you can wake the device and check but you wouldn't even have to if, for instance, the ring around the touch ID home button glowed when you missed something -- indicating there is something that requires your attention.

I'm not one of those people who constantly wake their device for no good reason and scroll around the home screen doing absolutely nothing. I see plenty of people like that out in public and it's, IMO, a bad habit. It would be nice to be able to look across the room at my phone sitting on the table and see the home button lit up, indicating I should walk over and check the phone l. There's been times when I left my phone alone for a while and missed a few texts before coming back in to grab it on my way out the house.

If you've ever seen the notification orb on the old Palm Pre you'd understand. That was a perfect l, subtle indication. I'm not fond of any of the dedicated notification LEDs on android phones.

I've had phones where the LED notification light was either too subtle or didn't light up frequently enough that just glancing at the device wasn't sufficient to see if there was any sort of missed notification. In the end, I'd just had to wake the screen to see if I was missing something.

 

[mercuryjones]

Why don't you take a step back and see who is telling whom how tonuse their technology.

Isn't it time for school yet?

I'm not the one that started down the personal attack road.
That said, use your device as you see fit. Just don't assume that your way is the best or right way to do so, and those that aren't using it in the same manner are void of common sense.
Thanks.

 

[kerrikins]

So the person in your scenario lacks common sense to check his email when he's waiting for an email.

COMMON SENSE

Is this something Apple needs to tell you to use before you actually use it?

The point was that while the LED tells you 'look at your phone' and what type of communication is waiting, many are not seeing the use because they may have multiple notifications of the same type and so the LED colour doesn't tell them much.

I think that's why people like me place it so far down the priority list and are having trouble understanding why it's so important to others. I wouldn't really care if it was implemented by Apple, but I don't think I'd use it.

 

[dontwalkhand]

I just press the home button, especially if I'm going to be looking for an LED anyway.

 

[Arran]

Guess what? I don't have to pick up my phone to check for notifications

If you are away from your phone. And the LED is NOT blinking you know you dont have to check your phone.

Or your battery is flat. But you'll never know - 'cause you never touch your 'phone

 

[HeisenbergOSX]

I'm sure someone will tell me if this is a terrible example, but:

Why does my car give me an indication when my gas is low? I could just as easily look at the gas guage to see what the level is at, couldn't I?

It's the same principle. Technology is there to make things easier, even small things. Honestly if the indication light on my Samsung isn't flashing, I don't even bother touching the phone (unless I need to). No, it isn't a huge ordeal to hit a button to see if I missed something, but shouldn't the point of a communication device to be, to notify you of things?

I'm in the market for a new phone, and no, this isn't a deal breaker to going back to an Iphone, but it is a consideration. Notificatons of some sort just make sense.

 

[Arran]

This whole thing has gotten way out of hand with personal attacks from both sides ...

Now I know why it's called the blinking light!

 

[mercuryjones]

I'm sure someone will tell me if this is a terrible example, but:

Why does my car give me an indication when my gas is low? I could just as easily look at the gas guage to see what the level is at, couldn't I?

It's the same principle. Technology is there to make things easier, even small things. Honestly if the indication light on my Samsung isn't flashing, I don't even bother touching the phone (unless I need to). No, it isn't a huge ordeal to hit a button to see if I missed something, but shouldn't the point of a communication device to be, to notify you of things?

I'm in the market for a new phone, and no, this isn't a deal breaker to going back to an Iphone, but it is a consideration. Notificatons of some sort just make sense.

Agreed. And you are getting notifications of some sort. Via either sounds or a screen, on the iPhone. For me, that;s enough. For you, it's not. Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that my way works for me, but maybe not for you and vice versa?
Also, for the car analogy to work, you would have to have a visible light on the outside of the car, so you wouldn't even have to get in the car to begin with to know that you are low on gas. Now, wouldn't that be just a bit annoying to people around you?

 

[mashosho]

Iphandroid

I love the led notification light on my Note 3. each color has a different meaning. If I glance over and see a green flashing led, i will definitely pick up my phone. It mean I have a new text message. If it blinks blue, its just a Facebook notification, and I can check those later. I too wish Iphone had this feature. I know iphone has 'turn the screen on' notifications, but after a second or two the screen turns off. Also its a little sad if u pick up your iphone to see if you missed any notification only to find that you have NONE.

That is all

 

[Tinmania]

I'm sure someone will tell me if this is a terrible example, but:

Why does my car give me an indication when my gas is low? I could just as easily look at the gas guage to see what the level is at, couldn't I?

It's the same principle. Technology is there to make things easier, even small things. Honestly if the indication light on my Samsung isn't flashing, I don't even bother touching the phone (unless I need to). No, it isn't a huge ordeal to hit a button to see if I missed something, but shouldn't the point of a communication device to be, to notify you of things?

I'm in the market for a new phone, and no, this isn't a deal breaker to going back to an Iphone, but it is a consideration. Notificatons of some sort just make sense.

Even when the iPhone came out, the lack of a notification light was a negative for me, considering I had one on my prior smartphone. But the iPhone was so much better in other ways that it negated the lack of an LED notification, as well as several other features I had on my prior smartphone. Features like install-able apps, copy-and-paste, and MMS. The iPhone experience, on the whole, was so much better, compared to my prior smartphone, that I didn't want to switch from it.

But nowadays there are other choices. Good choices. Likewise, Apple has, slowly but surely, added features that I missed from the very start: such as copy-and-paste, etc. But they still don't have that LED notification light.

I am not sure I would stay away from the iPhone due to lack of notification light. But I surely would miss it (and other things I have grown used to with Android). Since there are other good alternatives to the iPhone nowadays I don't have to miss it: I have it on my current phone and I will have it on my Note 4 when I get it tomorrow.

I really thought I would go back to the iPhone when it came with a larger screen. But the 6+ just didn't offer enough to win me back. Lack of LED was just one of the items on the "con" side of the equation, not the deciding factor in and of itself.

All that said I am baffled at those here arguing against it. Amazing.


Michael

 

[Arran]

I'm sure someone will tell me if this is a terrible example, but:

Always happy to oblige

Why does my car give me an indication when my gas is low? I could just as easily look at the gas guage to see what the level is at, couldn't I?

The consequences of running out of gas (two tons of your expensive metal stuck in the middle of nowhere with no way to get it going for at least an hour or two at best) compared to missing the average Facebook notification.

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Also, for the car analogy to work, you would have to have a visible light on the outside of the car, so you wouldn't even have to get in the car to begin with to know that you are low on gas. Now, wouldn't that be just a bit annoying to people around you?

Not to mention embarrassing (Hey look everyone, I'm too cheap to buy gas!)

 

[opfreak]

Or your battery is flat. But you'll never know - 'cause you never touch your 'phone

I should just graft the phone to my body so I never miss anything.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

What phone do you have? Seems the iphone only notifies you if you pick up the phone and actively check.

It rings, it flashes, it vibrates, it pops a message on the locked screen, it lights up the locked screen, it can provide an overlay, it can show it at the top, it makes a sound on my laptop, it makes a sound on my desktop, it does all of the above on my tablet it has got icons flashing jumping blah blah blah

 

[TomTomHatesCats]

...you are getting notifications of some sort. Via either sounds or a screen, on the iPhone. For me, that;s enough. For you, it's not. Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that my way works for me, but maybe not for you and vice versa?

I, and many LED proponents, understand completely that your way works for you. And obviously our way works for us.

Right now, your way is the only option. With an LED that can be toggled off, you still have your option while we have our option, and never the twine shall meet.

What's the problem here?