Well said. I'm due to buy one soon but I won't be checking. If I did, it would be on my mind all the time when I probably wouldn't have noticed it in first place.
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Well said. I'm due to buy one soon but I won't be checking. If I did, it would be on my mind all the time when I probably wouldn't have noticed it in first place.
Wow. I really am shocked that your lesson to a 14yr old kid is that getting a paycheck is more important than putting your name on a good product because "doing the job right is optional".
I guess complacency isn't just for kids anymore.
BTW. Its always interesting that people assume every kid with a fancy computer is going to be a programmer. He just said he owns an Air, he didn't actually say what he does with it.
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I'm not caught up on the current topic of the thread, but I complain because this is a forum to voice issues and opinions (good and bad), and really because there sometimes is cause for complain. Apple's video-freezing problem was a huge issue with Lion worth talking about--thankfully now resolved with .1 (so far). As is discussion regarding heat issues, dust behind the glass panel, and a creaky Macbook Air bottom (just some of the issues I'm personally having), which all lead to disappointment in Apple's "premium products." These computers come at a hefty price, and when something goes wrong, they don't feel as worthwhile as they should. It feels like Apple cares more about form than they do about function. There is always room for improvement. To be perfectly honest, I've become a bit disenchanted by the Apple brand. A lot of is due to the hype fanboys give--I think fans that think Apple is perfect actually do Apple diservice--but more is due to the Apple branding. They sell perfection, but not necessarily in their products. "It just works" isn't always true. When it doesn't work, that gives rise to complaints.
Having said that, I do like my iMac and Air for a variety of reasons too.
Edit: Yeah, those that nitpick regarding the brand of their SSD are a little too much, but again, this is an open forum and the place to talk about such things. Anyone not interested has the choice to not read those threads, I suppose.
Having said that, I do like my iMac and Air for a variety of reasons too.
Edit: Yeah, those that nitpick regarding the brand of their SSD are a little too much, but again, this is an open forum and the place to talk about such things. Anyone not interested has the choice to not read those threads, I suppose.
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1) I agree. People hype up Apple products like there's no tomorrow. All of the time. And they always will. Apple's philosophy and how they sell their products is the main reason for this. Rather than simply selling products they sell the "idea" behind what they do and why they do it. The result is this.
2) I don't like the direction they are going either. Simplifying everything is something I am definitely not looking forward to. Don't get me wrong, if it provides increases in efficiency, speed, and overall level of content with the machine, I'm all for it.
However, right now I look at Lion and the UI changes they did with it and I'm definitely sticking that free download on a DVD for future use. It's becoming more flair and less functionality, and that is NOT why I got a Mac.
3) People who come here and post about the small, small things get a little aggravating at times, however, that's what this place is for. I, for one, have definitely shared more than my share of complaints for small, nerdy nuances that I find flawed with the OS and the things surrounding it.
As much as fanboys do Apple disservice by claiming perfection and over hyping their products, this concept of "perfection" is as much promoted by Apple as is by their die hard fans. The motto "it just works" is constantly flaunted, and clearly, cannot always be true. In the end, as YoungSpade alluded to, Apple is just another company susceptible to fallacy and missteps. Besides a few exceptional ideas and practices, they are similar to other companies. We should be honest about this, and we should not be surprised by the "complaints" when we are.
I think we are saying the same thing. We don't let a notion of "perfect" get in the way of enjoying a great product. Great is not perfect.
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To reiterate, they sell the idea, not the product. This makes it a lot easier to feel like Apple is more than just a "company". People tend to talk like it is an actual thing; "Apple has great customer service", "Apple treats its customers right."
We put more emphasis on "Apple" rather than the employees themselves. However when you go to Best Buy people complain that the "associates" are terrible and don't know anything; they don't talk about Best Buy itself that often.
I think they're... interesting. I love the MBP because of the OS, the build quality, and the things it gives me. Before I got it, I seriously thought about getting the M11X r3 instead. That has the same 2011 MBA specs with a 11.6 inch and 2 gigs of graphics ram. 2 Gigs. And it's only 1099. And that was after I had a MB for a few months and loved it.
All in all, you're buying more than just a computer, that is what Apple wants us to think/realize. you're buying into the ecosystem, the applications, the programs, the experience. It's much easier for us to relate to that than just a chunk of plastic and metal that runs the same Windows 7 every other computer around us does.
And, well, it's different. Aside from Ubuntu (which requires a much steeper learning curve), it's the only thing out there (commercially) for people to buy, and many people don't even know about the other forms of Linux.
And, in closing, I love Apple, but I also love other companies. I'm not saying it's bad or we shouldn't praise them for what they do; I, for one, will defend them on random forums just because the other poster is ignorant. However, I also know that they have flaws and, ultimately, they just want our money. That's why the damn computers cost so much.
