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Why is the Galaxy S7's camera MUCH better than the 7 Plus ?????

DBZmusicboy01 said:
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I thought the 7 Plus was going to have the best camera in it's class...
I am extremely disappointed and the microphone quality is terrible.

The 6S to 7 isn't a big jump like I thought.
Galaxy S8 will beat the iP8 before it even comes out in my opinion if apple keeps playing the greed game.
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Return. Stop complaining. There is a nice hot Note 7 waiting for you!
 
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iosuser said:
Just tested my 7, 6s, and SE against the Galaxy S7. S7 still superior :( Look at how nicely saturated the color is with the GS7 at ISO800, against the iPhone 7 at ISO200.

The iPhone 7 *loves* to choose a very low shutter speed. I was at a restaurant in relatively bright light and it chose a 1/10s shutter at ISO100, instead of bumping the ISO.

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Good work.

I am an iPhone user from day one. Love the damn things. But I did get an S7 in February purely for the camera and water resistance.

I'm getting the 7Plus in a couple days and I seriously going to miss the S7 camera.
 
Well I'm not exactly qualified to answer this since I don't have either phone but I've played with both in stores and I favor the Samsung. I'm on an iPhone now and my next phone will be Samsung. iPhones will never be a DSLR replacement, that's like driving a 4 cylinder car that looks like a Ferrari vs a real Ferrari. Apple is a cult so people will always buy no matter what, but you have to be fair. I hate listening to people that defend Apple to the grave because really, a lot of their hardware is outdated. I prefer faster focus and shutter to slightly truer color any day. Color is editable, focus is not
 
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iosuser said:
I have a S7. In terms of focusing speed and overall responsiveness, it totally blows away the iPhone 7. It's a breeze to freeze action with the S7. The lack of shutter lag is almost uncanny. I got my iPhone 7 today and this was the first thing I tested, focusing speed and shutter lag. Total disappointment. I can't comment on quality yet as I haven't checked the photos on the computer, but it also appears to lag behind the S7. I really expected Apple to at least match Samsung.
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We just did a comparison between my brother's iPhone 7 Plus and his Galaxy S7.

Both are very nice, but the Samsung camera is in fact much better. Hard to believe Apple couldn't do better.

Perhaps they got cheap, cutting costs to insure maximum profit for Apple. They're famous for that. That's why they keep recycling the same aluminum body.
 
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iosuser said:
Yes. But if your dog is active or you want to freeze action shots, the Samsung will have an easier time because it focuses and fires off shots much more quickly. The GS7 snaps into focus very much like a DSLR, no hunting. The iPhone 7 still has to hunt back and forth before locking focus.
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What about using burst on the iPhone for action shots...
 
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The iPhone 7 plus has a better dynamic range than the Samsung. The s7 takes a decent picture, but the iPhone looked sharper in many of them, especially low light.
 
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cptn.nemo said:
Well I'm not exactly qualified to answer this since I don't have either phone but I've played with both in stores and I favor the Samsung. I'm on an iPhone now and my next phone will be Samsung. iPhones will never be a DSLR replacement, that's like driving a 4 cylinder car that looks like a Ferrari vs a real Ferrari. Apple is a cult so people will always buy no matter what, but you have to be fair. I hate listening to people that defend Apple to the grave because really, a lot of their hardware is outdated. I prefer faster focus and shutter to slightly truer color any day. Color is editable, focus is not
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I prefer great photos, set it and forget it backups, seamless integration across all my devices, and all of the awesomeness that is the new Photos. No current mobile phone is a dslr replacement. Any shooter knows that.
 
bnekic said:
What about using burst on the iPhone for action shots...
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bnekic said:
What about using burst on the iPhone for action shots...
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On the iPhone, that's what I'd have to do to get the best possible results. On the GS7, it is so fast that it's really not necessary. You press the shutter and the action is frozen where you intended. When I first got it, I constantly over-compensated, ends up taking the shot *earlier* than expected because it's so quick.

I know there's no convincing some of you here, but if you're at any of the stores that have a GS7, try it for yourself. I'm just speaking strictly to the speed, not even going to argue the picture quality any more.
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I prefer great photos, set it and forget it backups, seamless integration across all my devices, and all of the awesomeness that is the new Photos. No current mobile phone is a dslr replacement. Any shooter knows that.
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This is exactly why I was hoping Apple will best the Samsung. When I take a pictures with an i-thing, that picture instantly shows up on my iPads and Macs. It is just so convenient. I had a hell of a time trying to import pictures taken on the Samsung to my iPad Pro using the Lightning to SD adapter.
 
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iosuser said:
Yes. But if your dog is active or you want to freeze action shots, the Samsung will have an easier time because it focuses and fires off shots much more quickly. The GS7 snaps into focus very much like a DSLR, no hunting. The iPhone 7 still has to hunt back and forth before locking focus.
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Unfortunately in low incandescent lighting that's not been my experience. In fact it's been a frustration for me because overall I have preferred the hue, saturation, sharpness, exposure adjustments from the auto modes of the Samsung S7 and Note 7 cameras and software over the same from my iPhone SE and 6s Plus cameras.

But in various interior settings such as around a table in the restaurant, snapping a pic of my family; and in my kitchen at night, under incandescent recessed lighting, snapping a picture of the kids getting their school things together, the Samsung cameras consistently got the people blurry. I had to ask them to hold still for the photo. My older SE easily got the people in focus despite movement. The overall exposure, colder white balance and ability to capture detail wasn't as pleasant as in the N7 and S7 pics, but at least the people weren't ghostly blurs.

Looking at those photos of the aquarium that were kindly provided by @iosuser I would say the camera on the IPhone 7 is indeed significantly improved over its predecessors. And if it can handle the situations I described the Samsung cameras struggling with, that's a point in its favor. I'm learning the hard way it's really impossible to have everything I'm looking for in one device.

Now the fact that the microphone may be poor does concern me for a lot of reasons I won't bore you all with.
 
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iosuser said:
This is exactly why I was hoping Apple will best the Samsung. When I take a pictures with an i-thing, that picture instantly shows up on my iPads and Macs. It is just so convenient. I had a hell of a time trying to import pictures taken on the Samsung to my iPad Pro using the Lightning to SD adapter.
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I don't know about RAW files since I haven't ever tried to shoot any, but I easily can get Sammy photos onto my iPhone and IPad via Google photos. I throw all of my phone pics up there and then if I want one on a specific device I download it.
 
iosuser said:
Just tested my 7, 6s, and SE against the Galaxy S7. S7 still superior :( Look at how nicely saturated the color is with the GS7 at ISO800, against the iPhone 7 at ISO200.

The iPhone 7 *loves* to choose a very low shutter speed. I was at a restaurant in relatively bright light and it chose a 1/10s shutter at ISO100, instead of bumping the ISO.

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(1) All manufacturers of cameras - whether phones, P&S or DSLRs LOVE to boost the color and saturation in their out-of-camera JPEGs BECAUSE THE GENERAL PUBLIC EATS IT UP!!! They all think that those highly saturated colors look great.
(2) Many P&S and DSLR cameras do the same thing - lower shutter speed so that they can keep the ISO lower and keep the noise that comes from higher ISOs in control.
(3) I have a $1200 Olympus Mirrorless DSLR and at default factory settings it does both of the above BTW
 
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Shockwave78 said:
As far as shutter lag, are we talking the time from pressing to the time the picture is taken? Or the overall processing itself?

In the end we are talking less than a 1/4 second here or milliseconds. As long as the picture quality is better that's all I care about.

It is seemingly a common thing I am reading though that the iPhone 7 plus's camera is a bit slower than the 6s plus. Again though, I can deal with that if the end results are better. Also, if it bothers people that much Apple may fix it through the next iOS updates or maybe they did for a reason to begin with that is warranted.
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Yes, that's what I was referring to regarding shutter lag. 1/4s is a long time when talking about any delays in taking a photo, be it focusing time or the time from pressing the shutter to the actual exposure (aka shutter lag). It can mean the shot you wanted or no shot.
 
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GrumpyMom said:
I don't know about RAW files since I haven't ever tried to shoot any, but I easily can get Sammy photos onto my iPhone and IPad via Google photos. I throw all of my phone pics up there and then if I want one on a specific device I download it.
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I love my S7 camera.

Fact is, Apple has the built in native system on each device and it works seamlessly. Most people I would share anything with also use ios so it is hard to cross platform on my S7.

Consumers with camera phones and point and shoots tend to like simplicity and 'pop' in a picture. I don't see where that's a problem because I hate post editing also since it is almost a waste of time with the real time tools available while taking pictures and what a majority of pictures are used for, and on, today.
 
GrumpyMom said:
But in various interior settings such as around a table in the restaurant, snapping a pic of my family; and in my kitchen at night, under incandescent recessed lighting, snapping a picture of the kids getting their school things together, the Samsung cameras consistently got the people blurry. I had to ask them to hold still for the photo. My older SE easily got the people in focus despite movement. The overall exposure, colder white balance and ability to capture detail wasn't as pleasant as in the N7 and S7 pics, but at least the people weren't ghostly blurs.

Looking at those photos of the aquarium that were kindly provided by @iosuser I would say the camera on the IPhone 7 is indeed significantly improved over its predecessors. And if it can handle the situations I described the Samsung cameras struggling with, that's a point in its favor. I'm learning the hard way it's really impossible to have everything I'm looking for in one device.
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I was at an indoor amusement park. On one of the swing rides I just could not get an acceptably sharp action freeze. The Samsung can do it. I have camera apps on my iPhone that lets me alter shutter speed, but I just don't want to bother with it now, or I would've brought my big cameras lol. I'll go through my samples and show what I mean.

Nope, they want you to buy as many gadgets as they pump out :D In all seriousness, had I not used the Samsung I would've been perfectly content with the iPhone 7. A smartphone is jack of all trades for the great convenience, and I am willing to compromise on ultimate quality for that convenience. I wish to combine the GS7 camera with iPhone 7 everything else :D

GrumpyMom said:
I don't know about RAW files since I haven't ever tried to shoot any, but I easily can get Sammy photos onto my iPhone and IPad via Google photos. I throw all of my phone pics up there and then if I want one on a specific device I download it.
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I know there are services from Google and Microsoft, but it is just much easier with everything on iOS and macOS.
 
Steve686 said:
Good work.

I am an iPhone user from day one. Love the damn things. But I did get an S7 in February purely for the camera and water resistance.

I'm getting the 7Plus in a couple days and I seriously going to miss the S7 camera.
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Why when the 7 plus camera is better?
 
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