Why is the Galaxy S7's camera MUCH better than the 7 Plus ?????

[iosuser]

Do you think I'm doing something wrong when I can't get a focused indoor shot of a moving subject? They aren't moving too fast, just normal motion. In fact, one time the subject was my elderly in laws and all they were doing was talking. But with the SE, I could get them in focus and on the Samsungs I could not get such shots at all. I saw someone on Android Central had the same complaint but got no advice.

I wonder if it's just a matter of me being used to iPhones and missing some sort of technique since most Samsung users don't have this problem or don't report it.

Quick question, it's off topic but hope you don't mind it...my S7 runs really hot at random sometimes and often overheats in my pocket or in my hands in warm ambient temperatures such as outdoors in 70-80F weather. Does yours do that, too? I can't tell if I've got a lemon or not. It's going back to AT&T regardless when my replacement Note7 gets in. But I was just wondering since my Note 7 and my husband's S7 Edge run cool like our iPhones.

I was really hoping for the iphone 7 to be a huge camera upgrade. And it is really significant over what my SE can do. But I prefer the Samsung wide angle group selfie view and better audio quality, based on what I saw of that one video that was posted. I hope to see more comparisons since samples can vary.

This is a very illuminating thread. I really appreciate all the information everyone has presented. I hope it doesn't degenerate into accusations of fanboyism or bias if we continue to discuss the pros and cons of either phones as objectively as possible.

I really don't have a particular technique with the Samsung. iOS is my bread and butter, so I rare use the Samsung. But on occasions that I think there may be photo op, I will take the Samsung with me as it trust its camera more than the iPhone. Attached are two samples from each taken on different days, but it's the same place and environment as it is indoors. Freezing action is much easier with the Samsung. The iPhone always prefers to maintain a low ISO, resulting in unacceptably low shutter speeds. I'm watching the kids there so really can't divide my attention to fiddling with the camera settings. I can't say that I've ever noticed it get hot, even couple weeks ago on a hot day outside in an amusement park taking many photos and videos, but then, again, I rarely use it for much of anything else.

They are iPhone 6s samples, but from what I'm seeing with my 7, it will not do any better in freezing the action. If I had the time to fiddle, I would've cranked the ISO on the Samsung to 1600 which would've yielded a 1/120s shutter. Ditto the iPhone.


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You know it's a good thing right?

In photography it's always the lower ISO the better. If it can shot 1/10 and be sharp (using OIS) then it's the way it should work.

I just love when people that have no clue tell other people how it is.

Low ISO combined with a slow shutter = complete blur of a moving object. Sure the OIS might give you a not as blurry a background, great if the background is your main subject, or if you're just taking photos of a vase. Moving people or objects, not so much.

Get a clue before assuming you know better than others

 

[KillaMac]

Do you trust PCmag, Businessinsider, Tom's Guide?

http://www.pcmag.com/article/347907/iphone-7-plus-vs-iphone-6s-vs-galaxy-s7-cameras-compared
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iphone-7-plus-galaxy-s7-camera-comparison-2016-9
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-7-vs-galaxy-s7-camera,review-3906.html

Good links, I still think like in the Business Insider ones, that the iPhone took the better pictures. I have seen where the iPhone can't focus if you are close up to something where the Samsung can. But color wise, the iPhone was more accurate.
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I really don't have a particular technique with the Samsung. iOS is my bread and butter, so I rare use the Samsung. But on occasions that I think there may be photo op, I will take the Samsung with me as it trust its camera more than the iPhone. Attached are two samples from each taken on different days, but it's the same place and environment as it is indoors. Freezing action is much easier with the Samsung. The iPhone always prefers to maintain a low ISO, resulting in unacceptably low shutter speeds. I'm watching the kids there so really can't divide my attention to fiddling with the camera settings. I can't say that I've ever noticed it get hot, even couple weeks ago on a hot day outside in an amusement park taking many photos and videos, but then, again, I rarely use it for much of anything else.

They are iPhone 6s samples, but from what I'm seeing with my 7, it will not do any better in freezing the action. If I had the time to fiddle, I would've cranked the ISO on the Samsung to 1600 which would've yielded a 1/120s shutter. Ditto the iPhone.

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Low ISO combined with a slow shutter = complete blur of a moving object. Sure the OIS might give you a not as blurry background, great if the background is your main subject.

Get a clue before assuming you know better than others

I've had the same problem with my S7 at night. If an object or you are moving, it blurs the picture. To me, it seems the iPhone has a better chance on getting it locked in when you take it where the S7 kept trying to refocus and it messes up more often.

 

[mjjferreira]

Apple needs to improve the post processing algorithm. How knows in a future iOS update.

 

[DblHelix]

Just tested my 7, 6s, and SE against the Galaxy S7. S7 still superior Look at how nicely saturated the color is with the GS7 at ISO800, against the iPhone 7 at ISO200.

The iPhone 7 *loves* to choose a very low shutter speed. I was at a restaurant in relatively bright light and it chose a 1/10s shutter at ISO100, instead of bumping the ISO.

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Galaxy looks oversaturated

 

[one more thing]

My 7 is going back camera is worse than my SE. What a joke it was the only reason I wanted it fir the camera upgrade, the SE camera gets it right most shots the 7 is rubbish, shutter lag, too long exposure etc. So bad

 

[KillaMac]

My 7 is going back camera is worse than my SE. What a joke it was the only reason I wanted it fir the camera upgrade, the SE camera gets it right most shots the 7 is rubbish, shutter lag, too long exposure etc. So bad

Troll?

 

[jamesrick80]

The s7, 7 edge, and note 7 have the best camera on a phone in the industry period.....there is no excuse for Apple to have a weaker camera....

 

[KillaMac]

The s7, 7 edge, and note 7 have the best camera on a phone in the industry period.....there is no excuse for Apple to have a weaker camera....

Wow some people must not be good at seeing what photo is good or not.

 

[iosuser]

My 7 is going back camera is worse than my SE. What a joke it was the only reason I wanted it fir the camera upgrade, the SE camera gets it right most shots the 7 is rubbish, shutter lag, too long exposure etc. So bad

I'm just going to some of my past samples. Apple has always had a tendency to keep ISO unnecessarily low resulting in a slow shutter, or long exposure as you pointed out. From the earlier samples I posted, yes the 7 is even more so than the 6s and SE. My guess is since Apple put OIS in the 7, their thinking is to further keep the ISO low.

Troll?

Not sure, but if he's complaining about the tendency of a slow shutter speed compared to the SE, he may not be.

The s7, 7 edge, and note 7 have the best camera on a phone in the industry period.....there is no excuse for Apple to have a weaker camera....

This sums up my whole disappointment. If Samsung did it 6 months ago, why couldn't Apple at least match it?

 

[mjjferreira]

Samsung has more experience in the camera department, perhaps.

I am still waiting for my iPhone Plus 32GB Black! 21-23set.

 

[TommyA6]

I'm just going to some of my past samples. Apple has always had a tendency to keep ISO unnecessarily low resulting in a slow shutter, or long exposure as you pointed out. From the earlier samples I posted, yes the 7 is even more so than the 6s and SE. My guess is since Apple put OIS in the 7, their thinking is to further keep the ISO low.


Not sure, but if he's complaining about the tendency of a slow shutter speed compared to the SE, he may not be.


This sums up my whole disappointment. If Samsung did it 6 months ago, why couldn't Apple at least match it?

As I've mentioned already, Apple prioritizing low ISO over shutter speed can easily be fixed by using any 3rd party camera app. So that's a non issue really.

 

[cptn.nemo]

On the iPhone, that's what I'd have to do to get the best possible results. On the GS7, it is so fast that it's really not necessary. You press the shutter and the action is frozen where you intended. When I first got it, I constantly over-compensated, ends up taking the shot *earlier* than expected because it's so quick.

I know there's no convincing some of you here, but if you're at any of the stores that have a GS7, try it for yourself. I'm just speaking strictly to the speed, not even going to argue the picture quality any more.

This is exactly why I was hoping Apple will best the Samsung. When I take a pictures with an i-thing, that picture instantly shows up on my iPads and Macs. It is just so convenient. I had a hell of a time trying to import pictures taken on the Samsung to my iPad Pro using the Lightning to SD adapter.

I just got an iPad Pro, but I REALLY want a galaxy note 5. Seem less integration is great, but is there enough integration past simple photo syncing. I'm hoping for some integration in design apps, syncing a drawing on iPad right to Mac and phone. It's so hard to decide, I love Galaxy phones but iPads top Galaxy tabs, is it worth mixing and matching

 

[cmanbrazil]

I should have used the words debate 'the best'. That's the premise.

Everyone is so fixated on comparing one to the other and debating it.

I used a 6s+ last launch day until February. Pictures were good.

I tried the S7. Pictures were great.

I bought the S7 in February and love the pictures.

Of course we are always gauging what we have to other products, in comparison, but it always ends up with personal attacks and intellectual supremacy wannabe here on the boards.

I agree! It would be nice as consumer's to have rich dialogues about the products we use, but for many it becomes and argument for or against, and everyone chooses a camp and goes at it.

Also, many of us have different reasons for choosing a phone, and some of us choose the iPhone, but would still like the phone to perform better in one way or another. I left google for iPhone 5 because I was tired of not getting OS updates, or at best getting one update late. I am very happy that apple doesn't let phone companies take ownership of its ecosystem. Unfortunately android still has the same problem. However, I had a much better reading experience on my htc. Google did an excellent job of resizing text so that it is readible. Apple is getting better but still not there yet. I also miss the customizations I could make on my HTC. 4 years later and I'm still waiting for Apple to catch up in that area as well.

So there are tradeoffs, and we choose phones based off what is most important to us. However, it doesn't stop many of us from wanting improvement in the areas our phones are lacking in.

 

[one more thing]

Troll?

Nope just an unhappy customer

 

[se1000]

Galaxy S7/Note 7 uses a physically larger sensor AND a faster aperture/lens combo. I still think the iPhone 7 camera is fantastic, but physics are physics.

Edit: The iPhone 7 front facing camera is superior to the Galaxy S7/Note 7. It's not even close.

 

[TurboPGT!]

You buy everything Apple tells you to, don't you? Competition is a good thing. Blind brand loyalty is not.

Junk, trolling, and deception are never good things.

 

[KillaMac]

Galaxy S7/Note 7 uses a physically larger sensor AND a faster aperture/lens combo. I still think the iPhone 7 camera is fantastic, but physics are physics.

Edit: The iPhone 7 front facing camera is superior to the Galaxy S7/Note 7. It's not even close.

Not physics when the camera and the software have to work well together and Samsung pictures are not true color. They are overly saturated.

 

[waitandwait]

I thought the 7 Plus was going to have the best camera in it's class...
I am extremely disappointed and the microphone quality is terrible.

The 6S to 7 isn't a big jump like I thought.
Galaxy S8 will beat the iP8 before it even comes out in my opinion if apple keeps playing the greed game.

Show some photographs to prove what you say please.
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You buy everything Apple tells you to, don't you? Competition is a good thing. Blind brand loyalty is not.

Show some evidence of what you say please.

 

[se1000]

Not physics when the camera and the software have to work well together and Samsung pictures are not true color. They are overly saturated.

keep telling yourself that

 

[KillaMac]

keep telling yourself that

I don't have to tell myself that. Proof is already all over this forum in the pictures.

 

[se1000]

I don't have to tell myself that. Proof is already all over this forum in the pictures.

You know, reviewers and sample pics most likely have HDR set to auto or on, which does this to pictures. My point is, you can flatten a picture, but it's much more difficult to put colors there that never were captured.

I've never seen a camera manufacturer go for flatter pictures

 

[pixel_junkie]

The s7, 7 edge, and note 7 have the best camera on a phone in the industry period....

No question about it.

I don't forget that on the Galaxy side, any of those three phone you pick (including the smaller S7), will give you similar quality photos. With Apple, you have to carry that tablet called 7+ for okay photos. If you like smaller phones, you don't matter.

 

[Jay5ive]

Both phones take great photos. However the S7 suffers from the trademark Samsung move of having unrealistic color. That's the same strategy they use to sell their poorly built TV's.

 

[rainafterthesun]

I have seen the pictures my friend takes on her Samsung and I still prefer my iPhone (6s)

No edits or anything, even in the camera app (where you can manipulate the saturation or choose filters):

Night shots

 

[Abs_p]

Nice troll. iPhone 7 camera is truly stunning, DSLR in your pocket basically.

hardly a troll. Multiple comparisions are showing S7's camera to be better in low light. Just because it doesn't align with what you believe doesn't mean he is a troll.