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I've never used the Galaxy S7 (and never plan to) but I honestly can't tell the difference between the iP6+ and iP6+'s photos. I think Apple dropped the ball on this double lens thing. 2x seems gimmicky, especially since it has no image stabilization, which negates any benefit you'll get from the optical "zoom".
 
I believe a real tester over displaymate. :rolleyes:
Lmao you are in denial if you honestly think IPS displays are better than the latest OLED displays. Why do you think the highest rated HDTV's on that planet are OLED? Believe what you want and continue to ignore facts for all I care.

BTW, next time your outdoors and it's really sunny, make sure your S7 brightness is set to auto and watch it boost to 1000 nits.
 
Lmao you are in denial if you honestly think IPS displays are better than the latest OLED displays. Why do you think the highest rated HDTV's on that planet are OLED? Believe what you want and continue to ignore facts for all I care.

BTW, next time your outdoors and it's really sunny, make sure your S7 brightness is set to auto and watch it boost to 1000 nits.

http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/09/13/1-way-the-apple-iphone-7-plus-beats-the-samsung-ga.aspx

You really think so? Facts

FACT: Everyone who tests the S7 has said it isn't as good int he SUN as the iPhone display. Get use to it that the Samsung isn't gods chariot of phones.
 
http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/09/13/1-way-the-apple-iphone-7-plus-beats-the-samsung-ga.aspx

You really think so? Facts

FACT: Everyone who tests the S7 has said it isn't as good int he SUN as the iPhone display. Get use to it that the Samsung isn't gods chariot of phones.
LoL, fool.com. Matches perfectly with your thoughts.

Displaymate tests every single display on this planet and you'd rather believe some site called fool.com and phandroid who they themselves said the LG V20 display was not accurate. Believe what you want. Ignorance is bliss.
 
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The photographer composes the shot and makes all the decisions... the hardware is important too but a lot of this is going to come down to a sort of Nikon vs. Canin sort of thing. If you don't really know what you are doing as a photographer, the best camera can produce an awful shot and a lesser camera can still be fine to achieve the artistic vision.

To the one billion iPhone users, the overwhelming majority use their cameras for selfies and casual documentation of their life. Their photos are not being judged by professionals and they are not earning a living based upon the quality of the image (color, exposure, composition as well as various subjective and even emotive qualities)

Ask 100 photographers to take a picture of the same thing and you will get 100 different pictures, even if they use the same equipment.

Our technology has become so advanced that everyone with a phone believes they are a great photographer, and that doing it faster and faster with each generation of tech is the goal... it's sort of the false promise of this amazing tech...

In the end, like many art forms there are some objective qualities to evaluate, but quite a lot is subjective..

Pretty confident that pro photographers can take great shots with either phone, the cameras and related systems have come quite a long way. There shouldn't be anything really holding you back now.
 
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Thank you.

I know! All my pictures are coming out like that. I wonder if it's faulty or something. I haven't tried it outside yet.
Yay, your cute baby is back! No, it's not faulty, at least I don't think so. Well, let's put it this way, if it's faulty, then every iPhone camera I've owned from iPhone 5s to IPhone 6 to iPhone 6S Plus to IPhone SE is also faulty. This has been my experience with iPhone cameras for years now--varying degrees of the "Monet Watercolors Effect" even under adequate indoor lighting. I had a friend's birthday party shots that were absolutely ruined by this weird effect. The odd thing was that the room was extremely well lit. But by fluorescent lighting, so that might have thrown the camera off somehow.

I was testing my S7 camera against my IPhone 6S Plus camera a couple of hours ago. I photographed my husband in a restaurant under decent indoor and window lighting. I got nicely exposed photos with low noise from both cameras despite the less than ideal lighting conditions. I apologize in advance to the forum that I can't post the photos due to my husband's wish for privacy. I'll try my best to describe what I saw.

What was interesting was the loss of detail on the photo taken by the 6S Plus, very similar to the slightly blurred almost water colors effect on the baby's face seen in the iPhone photos posted above by Shanghaichica. I could see his facial hair more as sort of an interplay of shadows rather than distinguish very many individual hairs. He has a faint sprinkle of freckles across his nose that were barely visible. The whole effect is like the "beauty mode" of the Samsung selfie cameras. It can be flattering in that wrinkles and pores are minimized but it's a noticeable artificial looking loss of detail, as you see with the baby.

In contrast the S7 camera captured every hair of his five o'clock shadow and beard and every freckle. The effect was not harsh, the photo was very nicely exposed.

However some colors looked overdone and artificial on the Samsung display, even though I turned off the cinematic stuff. So I sent the full file over to my IPhone 6S Plus and lo and behold, on the IPhone Screen the colors looked very normal and very close to those of the sample photos of my husband taken with the iPhone!

I then took the photos of my husband that were taken with the iPhone and sent them to my Samsung phone. In the Samsung display the colors bumped up a bit but more importantly, I could confirm on the Samsung's higher resolution AMOLED screen that the details were in fact missing from the iPhone 6S Plus photos.

So, based on that experiment and a similar one I conducted several weeks ago when I had my Note 7, the Samsung S7/7 Edge and Note 7 cameras can take photos with very fine detail and color that is more similar to an IPhone 6s's color than one would believe from looking at the color on a Samsung display.

I won't say one camera is absolutely better than the other's because I've had my iPhones get shots that my Samsung messed up royally, try after try. And in my tests of video, often my iPhone Videos looked smoother and had better white balance and less hunting for proper exposure than my Samsungs. And concluding anything based on experiments by a testing crew of one person is sheer folly.

Of course I don't have an iPhone 7 to test against, yet, either.

I admit I'm a bit upset to see that Monet Water colors effect is apparently still happening despite the camera upgrade on the iPhone 7. Your lighting seemed to be adequate. I am sorry to see that effect marring otherwise wonderful pictures.
 
LoL, fool.com. Matches perfectly with your thoughts.

Displaymate tests every single display on this planet and you'd rather believe some site called fool.com and phandroid who they themselves said the LG V20 display was not accurate. Believe what you want. Ignorance is bliss.

Of course you will always have stupid remarks because it proves you are wrong. Yeah, ignorance is for you. If it doesn't match what you think, its all wrong.
 
I like the iPhone better. I did way before he told us which was which. The one on the right was too red. Look under the eyes.
I prefer the Samsung half every time, but the audio seemed a lot cleaner from the iPhone video. Whereas on Saf's video that I saw yesterday, the sound inside of a car was better and richer on the Samsung.

The weird thing I am noticing on all of the sample photos and from that video is that images and video from Samsung devices seem to have more of a three dimensional effect. Sometimes that pulls your eye into the scene, it other times it can feel busy and less soothing.

At the risk of sounding like Mr. Spock, I find comparing these cameras to be a fascinating endeavor.
 
Of course you will always have stupid remarks because it proves you are wrong. Yeah, ignorance is for you. If it doesn't match what you think, its all wrong.
I literally provided you with FACTS. You ignored scientific tests provided by displaymate and completely ignored the video that YOU posted that mentioned how the LG V20 display was innacurate! Also, it's a fact that the S7 and Note 7 displays boost to over 1000 nits in auto brightness when in direct sunlight.

So in other words, stop feeding me BS because I just ate.
 
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I literally provided you with FACTS. You ignored scientific tests provided by displaymate and completely ignored the video that YOU posted that mentioned how the LG V20 display was innacurate! Also, it's a fact that the S7 and Note 7 displays boost to over 1000 nits in auto brightness when in direct sunlight.

So in other words, stop feeding me BS because I just ate.

I don't give a crap if it does 5000 nits. The technology of amoled is not good in the sun period. That is a fact and comparing both phones in the sun it isn't as viewable as an iPhone. If it was so good and that much better in the sun then how come all the comparisons out there say it isn't as good in the sun as an ips display. Eod
 
I don't give a crap if it does 5000 nits. The technology of amoled is not good in the sun period. That is a fact and comparing both phones in the sun it isn't as viewable as an iPhone. If it was so good and that much better in the sun then how come all the comparisons out there say it isn't as good in the sun as an ips display. Eod
Stop with the BS. I'm sooo full!!!
 
Do we have to fight on this thread? If folks can't agree after one interchange of information and links, can't we agree to disagree? They are all good phones and have pros and cons.

I'm not trying to be y'all's mom or anything like that and in the end you all are free to argue as you wish, but this is an interesting topic with lots of informative posts and I don't want to have to wade through pages of sniping to get at the good stuff. You all seem like intelligent and articulate people. Can't we put that to better use here?

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I don't have an iPhone 7 and will skip it this year. I do have a 6S and 6S+. I also have an S7 Edge and a Note 5. I have always preferred to take pictures using the Note 5 due to the better quality and the impressive night time shots. After buying both the Note 5 and 6S+ in December, I bring both with me daily but when I need a camera, the Note 5 is the one I reach for. I never think of using the 6S+ for a camera anymore.

I've read on other tech sites that the S7/Edge/Note 7 camera wins over the iPhone 7.
 
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For the people who are saying they have all these phones... you really travel around with more than one phone? For me spreading features across multiple devices would not work, the phone is a mobile device for me and if I have to carry more than one on me, then it reduces its mobility.. if your carrying one phone for calls and another for pics, at that point, why not just carry a real camera? Curious.
 
Sorry but I prefer a company that does real testing and not just some joe blow that does YouTube videos. The s7 has a good camera but it's not as good as the iPhone 7 plus. http://www.cnet.com/special-reports/cameras-compared-iphone-7-plus-vs-galaxy-s7-vs-iphone-6s-plus/

That's an interesting link. I feel like the iPhone 7 picked up more detail and often had better colour balance in some of the photos (look at the buildings at the top right in "Construction at 5x zoom in downtown San Francisco)
but in low light the S7 seems to have an advantage.
 
I don't have an iPhone 7 and will skip it this year. I do have a 6S and 6S+. I also have an S7 Edge and a Note 5. I have always preferred to take pictures using the Note 5 due to the better quality and the impressive night time shots. After buying both the Note 5 and 6S+ in December, I bring both with me daily but when I need a camera, the Note 5 is the one I reach for. I never think of using the 6S+ for a camera anymore.

I've read on other tech sites that the S7/Edge/Note 7 camera wins over the iPhone 7.
Wow, Note 5 beats your S7 Edge?
 
I just came to say that while the 7+ camera is quite good and output is good I'm really disappointed by the shutter lag - not expecting that at all. A 2 year old Android phone has a faster shutter than the 7+. So many pics of my kids in bright light came out blurry because they move between when I hit the shutter and the pic was taken. Sucks big time. I hope Apple fixes this because it's starting to get really annoying.
 
For the people who are saying they have all these phones... you really travel around with more than one phone? For me spreading features across multiple devices would not work, the phone is a mobile device for me and if I have to carry more than one on me, then it reduces its mobility.. if your carrying one phone for calls and another for pics, at that point, why not just carry a real camera? Curious.
I'm temporarily toting around three phones. Hopefully in a few days I'll get my Note 7 back and I'll be carrying my SE around in my pocket and the Note 7 in my purse. The iPhone 6S Plus will be a backup phone until it's traded in.

The Note 7 is sort of my mini computer, keeping me organized on my "mom stuff". It will be the device I'll take most of my pics on when I'm ready to take pics.

The SE will always be on me, ready to be pulled out of my pocket and will take the pics of more spontaneous moments. It's the phone with the number that I give out to all of my contacts. The one my watch is tied to.

I'm weird. Some women like shoes and handbags and sunbathing on exotic beaches. I like technology. When I'm having a bad day I can usually be cheered up by visiting a Best Buy and soaking up the EM radiation. ;)
 
I'm temporarily toting around three phones. Hopefully in a few days I'll get my Note 7 back and I'll be carrying my SE around in my pocket and the Note 7 in my purse. The iPhone 6S Plus will be a backup phone until it's traded in.

The Note 7 is sort of my mini computer, keeping me organized on my "mom stuff". It will be the device I'll take most of my pics on when I'm ready to take pics.

The SE will always be on me, ready to be pulled out of my pocket and will take the pics of more spontaneous moments. It's the phone with the number that I give out to all of my contacts. The one my watch is tied to.

I'm weird. Some women like shoes and handbags and sunbathing on exotic beaches. I like technology. When I'm having a bad day I can usually be cheered up by visiting a Best Buy and soaking up the EM radiation. ;)
I do the same thing many times. I've even carried four phones with me. It's a comfort thing. Yes, I am a phone junkie and they make me feel good. :)

I have six lines active on T-Mobile simply because it's so cheap to do so with them and I have so many phones that I am not ready to quit using.

My 6S+ has my main line that people call me on and it is jailbroken so I can block calls using iBlacklist. The Note 5 is my favorite phone though that I actually make calls on and would use as my main phone if I could block calls like iBlacklist does. All my phones have caller ID blocked so it doesn't matter what phone I make calls on, no one sees the number and text messages are on the 6S+.

My next phone will also be an Android.
 
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For the people who are saying they have all these phones... you really travel around with more than one phone? For me spreading features across multiple devices would not work, the phone is a mobile device for me and if I have to carry more than one on me, then it reduces its mobility.. if your carrying one phone for calls and another for pics, at that point, why not just carry a real camera? Curious.
Ones my work phone and the other personal
 
Yes, this heavy water painting color you speak of started with the iPhone 6. iPhone 5 and prior were not as severe. There was a big thread on the subject. Till this day I find it very curious why no professional reviewers has complained about it, including DPReview. You don't even need to pixel peep at 100% to see the nasty artifacts, and is present even in good light at low ISO sensitivity. This is partly caused by poor processing, but it really shouldn't be that bad in good light. This can be worked around by using a camera app that gives you complete control. I bought 645 Pro when I first saw this on the iPhone 6. It largely solves the water color effect, and the resulting jpeg file is 3-4 times bigger (average 10MB vs Apples stock camera ~3MB typically), meaning it retained a lot more of the image information. Jpegs from the S7 are also pretty small at 3-4MB, but does not have the nasty water color effects.

I actually took a bunch of direct comparison shots with my iPhone 7 using 645 Pro with my GS7 matching the exposure parameters for a more direct comparison. I prefer the Samsung files.

I have not pixel peeped much yet, but it seemed to me the 7 does not suffer from the Monet painting effect, at least not as severely. I posted couple of 100% crops from the 7 early in this thread and I didn't notice it.

Yay, your cute baby is back! No, it's not faulty, at least I don't think so. Well, let's put it this way, if it's faulty, then every iPhone camera I've owned from iPhone 5s to IPhone 6 to iPhone 6S Plus to IPhone SE is also faulty. This has been my experience with iPhone cameras for years now--varying degrees of the "Monet Watercolors Effect" even under adequate indoor lighting. I had a friend's birthday party shots that were absolutely ruined by this weird effect. The odd thing was that the room was extremely well lit. But by fluorescent lighting, so that might have thrown the camera off somehow.

I was testing my S7 camera against my IPhone 6S Plus camera a couple of hours ago. I photographed my husband in a restaurant under decent indoor and window lighting. I got nicely exposed photos with low noise from both cameras despite the less than ideal lighting conditions. I apologize in advance to the forum that I can't post the photos due to my husband's wish for privacy. I'll try my best to describe what I saw.

What was interesting was the loss of detail on the photo taken by the 6S Plus, very similar to the slightly blurred almost water colors effect on the baby's face seen in the iPhone photos posted above by Shanghaichica. I could see his facial hair more as sort of an interplay of shadows rather than distinguish very many individual hairs. He has a faint sprinkle of freckles across his nose that were barely visible. The whole effect is like the "beauty mode" of the Samsung selfie cameras. It can be flattering in that wrinkles and pores are minimized but it's a noticeable artificial looking loss of detail, as you see with the baby.

In contrast the S7 camera captured every hair of his five o'clock shadow and beard and every freckle. The effect was not harsh, the photo was very nicely exposed.

However some colors looked overdone and artificial on the Samsung display, even though I turned off the cinematic stuff. So I sent the full file over to my IPhone 6S Plus and lo and behold, on the IPhone Screen the colors looked very normal and very close to those of the sample photos of my husband taken with the iPhone!

I then took the photos of my husband that were taken with the iPhone and sent them to my Samsung phone. In the Samsung display the colors bumped up a bit but more importantly, I could confirm on the Samsung's higher resolution AMOLED screen that the details were in fact missing from the iPhone 6S Plus photos.

So, based on that experiment and a similar one I conducted several weeks ago when I had my Note 7, the Samsung S7/7 Edge and Note 7 cameras can take photos with very fine detail and color that is more similar to an IPhone 6s's color than one would believe from looking at the color on a Samsung display.

I won't say one camera is absolutely better than the other's because I've had my iPhones get shots that my Samsung messed up royally, try after try. And in my tests of video, often my iPhone Videos looked smoother and had better white balance and less hunting for proper exposure than my Samsungs. And concluding anything based on experiments by a testing crew of one person is sheer folly.

Of course I don't have an iPhone 7 to test against, yet, either.

I admit I'm a bit upset to see that Monet Water colors effect is apparently still happening despite the camera upgrade on the iPhone 7. Your lighting seemed to be adequate. I am sorry to see that effect marring otherwise wonderful pictures.
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I'm weird. Some women like shoes and handbags and sunbathing on exotic beaches. I like technology. When I'm having a bad day I can usually be cheered up by visiting a Best Buy and soaking up the EM radiation. ;)
Lucky man your husband :) I was going to buy an Apple Watch from a forum member to try. I asked my SO if she'd wear it if I end up not liking it. No thanks was her response lol.
 
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