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It's not that I personally hate Apple. Currently I'm trying to decide between an iPhone 6 plus and a Note 4. I've always supported Apple in the past, buying devices and recommending them to people. I just feel they have gotten greedier over the past few years, especially after Jobs passed. Products used to be innovative, but now they just seem to be playing catch-up. I wouldn't have considered purchasing an Android a few years back but honestly the appeal for Apple products just isn't the same as it used to be. "Hate" is an extremely derogatory term and I don't believe anyone truly "hates" Apple, not even their competition.
 
Here's the thing, in my opinion.
Most of the "hate" we've touched upon is of the internet variety.
That's the nature of the internet. You take human interaction out of the equation, and everyone gets way to serious about crap that really doesn't matter.
Especially when there is no real accountability for their words.
So yeah, words like hate are bandied about like nothing. And it's all just pointless sturm and drang.

At the end of the day, it's just a phone, a tablet, a computer, or what have you. It's minuscule in the grand scheme of things.

But it's how this fickle beast works.
That's the irony of social media.
Ain't nothing social about it.
All meanings.
 
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Remember, the majority of Android users were most likely at one point, part of the initial iPhone user base, coming from flip-phones, music phones, and the like - and only shifted their loyalties from Apple once Apple stopped with the innovation while Google and other hardware makers have continued to experiment.

i'm going to have to disagree with this. Android users are a mixture of people. Some are what you say they are: former Apple users who got "bored." But quite a few others fall in different categories altogether:

- People who hated Apple for various reasons before the iPhone and never got on the iPhone bandwagon because of it. With Android being announced on the iPhone's coattails, they waited for their "iPhone killer."

- People who used to be on other platforms. It's no secret that Android poached a huge portion of Blackberry's user base, with iOS poaching the rest. Then there are the dead platforms that we used to know as Palm and Symbian.

- People who are "platform agnostic" and don't care what the platform is as long as it makes calls, takes pictures and gets them to Facebook. Some are advanced users, but many are low-end, not very advanced in their needs, and probably don't use most of the smartphone features anyway... they have it because that's what the nice man at the cell phone store told them they needed to buy.

(Of course, iOS has some of these users, too.)

Anyway, to say that Android users are all former iPhone users who converted really misunderstands where these users come from. I'm sure that many really don't care what Google or Apple do beyond the icons on their screens.

Personally, I've gone from Apple, to Android and the Note series, to the Blackberry Passport, because those were the avenues which offered what I was looking for - bigger screens, stylus options, customization, security, etc.

To each his own. Personally, I could write a novel about the falsehood that Blackberry and its die hard fans perpetuate about their OS being inherently more secure than current competitors. That used to be the case, but not so much today. But that's a whole other debate.

As a former fan, it's not that I'm mad at iPhone users for liking iPhones, they're still premium/quality products - I'm mad at Apple for resting on their laurels, seemingly too worried that they'll screw things up by being innovative, that they don't even bother. I'm mad at iPhone users for accepting this mediocrity, when Apple could, and should, be pushing the smartphone industry further into the future, and not playing catch-up.

All I can say to this is: Why are u mad, bro?

It's a phone, not a religion. People forget this all the time. You're harboring some personal negativity against a a corporation whose leadership isn't gonna lose any sleep over your personal feelings, and against iOS users for accepting what iPhones are. All that negativity doesn't do anything to change the state of things. If iPhone and Apple users are happy with what they have, there has to be a reason for it. Maybe - and this a crazy thought, I know - they're happy because the Apple products as they are and as they evolve are fulfilling these users' needs.

That doesn't mean everyone has to be perfectly happy with Apple. People are individuals, and can have different opinions. Clearly, you have yours, and you've moved on to something that does suit your needs. Are you happy on Android? I hope you are, and I'm going to assume you are. So... what's the point then, in looking back on the platform you left, and its users, and being angry?

We can go into the old argument about whether Apple is innovating or not, but that's going to get us nowhere: I've got my opinion (Apple's innovations come in refining features to the point where people want to actually use them, rather than them being just neat curiosities that people get quickly bored or frustrated with), and you have yours (I can only speculate: more specs on a sheet of paper = OMG innovation? I'm not sure).

In any case, the argument shouldn't matter: you've got your platform. it's innovating, in the way you want it to. So, why be mad, bro? Be happy, enjoy using your phone. Get rid of the hate and be positive. And don't pay any mind to us Apple Sheeple. Our existence shouldn't hurt you in any way, unless you let it, for some bizarre reason.
 
During the mid 90s, there was no logical reason to hate Apple.
Pity them, sure.
But hate? No.

People flat out hated Apple. No lie. That's where a lot of the entrenched attitude you see today comes from. Apple users used to get trashed without mercy. Apple used to take abuse that put what you see here to shame.
 
Oh, I rememeber. I'm just saying it was unnecessary, considering how on the brink they were.

I think the comeback after Jobs' return has a lot to do with it, too.

They were a year or two from death, then had one of the greatest comebacks in the history of business.
 
Oh, I rememeber. I'm just saying it was unnecessary, considering how on the brink they were.

I think the comeback after Jobs' return has a lot to do with it, too.

They were a year or two from death, then had one of the greatest comebacks in the history of business.

More like a month or two and yes, it was completely mystifying and unnecessary.
 
Apple Haters

I've been seeing way too much hate on Apple recently. Much worst, Android users feel the need to post in Apple based forums to expressed why they choose an Android device and how much better the OS is. Or how Apple doesn't innovate anymore. What are they really trying to get out of this?

So much hate and energy towards Apple and the people that buy their products. I swear Android users get so defensive the second we say anything negative about Android. Yet, they spend so much energy bashing on Apple.

I've seen so many Android users browse through this forum and troll yet you rarely see any of us browse Android Central.

I could careless what you think about Apple and nothing you can say make me think otherwise. I'm glad your happy with your choice but get that BS out of here. Choice is great for all of us and I chose Apple because it fits my needs.
 
The thing that bothers me about apple haters is that they don't respect what apple has done for over 30 years. Personal computers, iPod, iPhone, iPad.

I wonder if most or many of the haters are relatively young and only really know apple for making the iPhone and iPad. Maybe they are even too young to know that Apple revolutionized the cell phone with the first iPhone. They were years ahead of any other company. Then all the other companies scrambled to copy and copy and copy.

I also think they are jealous. Especially now that iphones are bigger and their jabs of small iPhones are no longer valid.
 
Why people "hate" things that I like:

They aren't me. Who gives a flying crap?

While I agree iPhones are status symbols (and if you don't believe me, go to China... but they are still here too, just to a lesser extent since AT&T lost exclusivity and everyone can get one) it doesn't mean I own one because I give a crap what you think. I don't.

Android is inferior. Their phones are fragmented, poorly built, poorly supported, and developers would rather make new releases for iOS, but that's what I think.

Change my mind? Nuh-uh. Not happening. Because I look down on you. Android is inferior. If there comes a time when I don't think it is, maybe I'll buy one.

It's not likely, but I sure as hell am not changing based on your "hate" towards something. Couldn't care less. You shouldn't either.

But here we are
 
I didn't even see those post. I don't have time to read every thread. Some of the few I read is constant bashing on Apple. I just don't understand why they feel we need those post here lol.
 
The thing that bothers me about apple haters is that they don't respect what apple has done for over 30 years. Personal computers, iPod, iPhone, iPad.

I wonder if most or many of the haters are relatively young and only really know apple for making the iPhone and iPad. Maybe they are even too young to know that Apple revolutionized the cell phone with the first iPhone. They were years ahead of any other company. Then all the other companies scrambled to copy and copy and copy.

I also think they are jealous. Especially now that iphones are bigger and their jabs of small iPhones are no longer valid.

Don't you know? Apple didn't innovate anything. They've been ripping everything off since Xerox-PARC.
 
I didn't even see those post. I don't have time to read every thread. Some of the few I read is constant bashing on Apple. I just don't understand why they feel we need those post here lol.
Because they wear it as some ridiculous badge of honor.

I don't get it.
 
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As a former fan, it's not that I'm mad at iPhone users for liking iPhones, they're still premium/quality products - I'm mad at Apple for resting on their laurels, seemingly too worried that they'll screw things up by being innovative, that they don't even bother. I'm mad at iPhone users for accepting this mediocrity, when Apple could, and should, be pushing the smartphone industry further into the future, and not playing catch-up.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe other people don't feel that they're ~accepting mediocrity~?

People like different things in devices. Period. Get over it and move on.
 
I've been seeing way too much hate on Apple recently. Much worst, Android users feel the need to post in Apple based forums to expressed why they choose an Android device and how much better the OS is. Or how Apple doesn't innovate anymore. What are they really trying to get out of this?

So much hate and energy towards Apple and the people that buy their products. I swear Android users get so defensive the second we say anything negative about Android. Yet, they spend so much energy bashing on Apple.

I've seen so many Android users browse through this forum and troll yet you rarely see any of us browse Android Central.

I could careless what you think about Apple and nothing you can say make me think otherwise. I'm glad your happy with your choice but get that BS out of here. Choice is great for all of us and I chose Apple because it fits my needs.

Ignore the "Apple haters" if you need to. I honestly think some of them bring up valid points. Apple could be more flexible, 3rd party keyboards are way overdue and could probably be implemented better. Apple shouldn't have waited this long to release a phone with a decent sized screen. Apples pricing structure for storage upgrades leaves a lot to be desired.

I currently own a 5s. A year ago I owned a HTC One. In a few months I may own a Moto X(2014) or even a Nexus 6. Maybe I'll buy a iPhone 6 plus. Who knows.
 
I live in LA. I have way more important stuff to worry about, like the BIG ONE COMING ANY DAY TO DESTROY! DESTROY!!!

I'm not going to sweat someone hating the fact that I use Apple products.
 
Ignore the "Apple haters" if you need to. I honestly think some of them bring up valid points. Apple could be more flexible, 3rd party keyboards are way overdue and could probably be implemented better. Apple shouldn't have waited this long to release a phone with a decent sized screen. Apples pricing structure for storage upgrades leaves a lot to be desired.



I currently own a 5s. A year ago I owned a HTC One. In a few months I may own a Moto X(2014) or even a Nexus 6. Maybe I'll buy a iPhone 6 plus. Who knows.


Oh believe me they are ignored. Sure there are much left to be desired on what Apple can do better. I'm not concern when Apple implements something new. Late or not I know for a fact it's done right and with quality. Sure I wish at times they don't wait so long, but we have choices to try other brands if we cannot wait.
 
People just need something to get mad about. More often than not due to insecurity or just wanting to fill their dead time. Go be productive somewhere OP.

I tried. By showing how, as an Android/blackberry user, I'd love for Apple to start being productive again - then the love you continue to show them would be justified.

But, deaf ears.
 
I tried. By showing how, as an Android/blackberry user, I'd love for Apple to start being productive again - then the love you continue to show them would be justified.

But, deaf ears.
Enjoy your Android/Blackberry.
Seriously. No sarcasm.

Deaf ears or not, it's not that big a deal.
 
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