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Why would Verizon possibly be in charge of RIM's AppStore?

The Blackberry Storm is a phone offered to world at large, and will function in any locality that currently has Blackberry Internet Service. There's absolutely not reason that Verizon would in any way control decisions made by RIM.

Unlike the iPhone, the Blackberry mentality is not "America First."
The app store will be controlled by the carrier, go and read some of the reports when they initially annouced it, it was on gizmodo and those sites. RIM has no balls, they do what the carrier tells thems.
 
Do yourself a favor and count your 'demos' and come back here. You'll see that the regular free apps far outweigh your 'demos'. You already mentioned that you 'had' an iPhone and telling me to be objective? I'm still using it and know what's there.
What are you talking about, there are many free aps, have you even used the store before?
 
What are you talking about, there are many free aps, have you even used the store before?

Hey, I think you misread my statement. I'm saying basically what you're saying. It's the other person who is saying otherwise.
 
The app store will be controlled by the carrier, go and read some of the reports when they initially annouced it, it was on gizmodo and those sites. RIM has no balls, they do what the carrier tells thems.

I just did some research, and you are in fact correct. My mistake, the official Application Store will be a close effort between RIM and the Carriers in question.

However, that does not rule out other Application. The Blackberry Operating System supports a variety of applications that may be downloaded directly to the device. Additionally, the support of alternative application stores such as "Berrystore" makes the Storm a powerful competitor with a variety of options.

As for RIM having no balls, you're talking about the company that told the government of a nation of over 1 billion people that it won't allow them to access their customer's emails.
 
There are hundreds of free BB apps that can be used. Verizon doesn't lock out apps on their smartphones.



A few seconds of research would've told you that the Storm has tethering. As one reporter put it in a list of features:

"Can be tethered as a broadband modem: Using the Verizon Wireless VZAccess software, the Storm works as a 3G modem that you can tether to your laptop in order to get broadband on the go. In my tests using the Storm as a tethered modem, it averaged about 1.5 Mbps for downloads and about 500 Kbps for uploads."

Um...I know that. That point I was making was that if an app came out that allowed tethering without being charged I'm sure Verizon would have RIM pull it.
 
They are just acting like the blackberry users who hate on the iphone, they are even worse than these guys. I think they have some complex towards the iphone, it might be some jealousy.

Before this thread is locked also :) ...this was from the "give the Storm credit" thread. Before I could hit post it was locked. Just wanted to get my point out there.

I presume you are point a finger at me, saying Im a BB users thats hating on the iPhone? Or maybe Im taking your post out of context, not sure.

But if I an correct in assuming that, I can point to at least 3 separate posts of mine where I say "I think the iPhone is better and if I could go back to it I would." I have to be with Verizon, I cannot use ATT at the moment.

I just try to be objective and see both sides, unlike most people here.
 
I think since I work in the finance industry, I have some credibility to answer this. If your broker would even consider sending an email to tell you/another broker to sell and or buy, he is an absolute idiot and you need a new broker. If it is that important, then you call!

Thanks for jumping in with the correction of my little scenario. It was not meant to be accurate, but more as a thought provoker... because I can't understand why people feel a need to question anyone else's desires. If someone wants instant mail, more power to them. If they don't, the same freedom applies.

As I said, I don't rely myself on push email, nor do I (usually) need to get emails right away. But I don't begrudge those who feel they must.

Cheers!
 
BTW, the link on the other page to the "free" apps, how many of those are lite versions? I dont have the app store memorized, but the FIRST app on that page, while listed as free, I know that is a lite version. The "make a face" app has a lite and pay to use version.

So again I say, you all talk about how many free apps there are. But a large number of those are just demos.

I give up.
 
I just did some research, and you are in fact correct. My mistake, the official Application Store will be a close effort between RIM and the Carriers in question.

However, that does not rule out other Application. The Blackberry Operating System supports a variety of applications that may be downloaded directly to the device. Additionally, the support of alternative application stores such as "Berrystore" makes the Storm a powerful competitor with a variety of options.

As for RIM having no balls, you're talking about the company that told the government of a nation of over 1 billion people that it won't allow them to access their customer's emails.
I'm talking about in terms of carriers, they let the carriers dictate to them.
 
Before this thread is locked also :) ...this was from the "give the Storm credit" thread. Before I could hit post it was locked. Just wanted to get my point out there.

I presume you are point a finger at me, saying Im a BB users thats hating on the iPhone? Or maybe Im taking your post out of context, not sure.

But if I an correct in assuming that, I can point to at least 3 separate posts of mine where I say "I think the iPhone is better and if I could go back to it I would." I have to be with Verizon, I cannot use ATT at the moment.

I just try to be objective and see both sides, unlike most people here.
No just in general, go and read some of the Blackberry forums like Crackberry and those sites, all they do it hate on the iphone. It seems the iphone is the phone everyone loves to hate on. Go read some of the windows mobile forums, palm, blackberry, nokia, wherever. It's like Apple stole their candy or something.
 
BTW, the link on the other page to the "free" apps, how many of those are lite versions? I dont have the app store memorized, but the FIRST app on that page, while listed as free, I know that is a lite version. The "make a face" app has a lite and pay to use version.

So again I say, you all talk about how many free apps there are. But a large number of those are just demos.

I give up.

:)

To each his own!

I got into Apple products only last year and have to give them credit. They make great products, fanboy or not. I just acknowledge when a company makes a great product.

Like I said, I have nothing personal against the Storm. It's just not for me.
 
The app store will be controlled by the carrier, ....
There will be two new application sources:

1) The Application Center (which is what y'all are talking about) is on-device, and contains carrier-specific choices. You don't have to use it.

2) The Application Storefront will be run by RIM, giving an 80/20 split with developers, support Paypal, and is usable by anyone. Carriers can't stop you from downloading from there.
Um...I know that. That point I was making was that if an app came out that allowed tethering without being charged I'm sure Verizon would have RIM pull it.
Even if they did, it shouldn't stop anyone, any more that it stops WinMo owners from downloading such apps.... because you're NOT tied to what RIM or the carrier makes available.

Again: Consumer Blackberries can download and run any app they want, from anywhere they want. (Corporations can control the ones they own.)
 
There will be two new application sources:

1) The Application Center (which is what y'all are talking about) is on-device, and contains carrier-specific choices. You don't have to use it.

2) The Application Storefront will be run by RIM, giving an 80/20 split with developers, support Paypal, and is usable by anyone. Carriers can't stop you from downloading from there.

Even if they did, it doesn't stop anyone any more that it stops WinMo owners from downloading such apps.... because you're NOT tied to what RIM or the carrier makes available.

Again: Consumer Blackberries can download and run any app they want, from anywhere they want. (Corporations can control the ones they own.)

I can agree with that.
 
The Blackberry Storm is NOT recognized by an Apple Mac when plugged in via USB.

It does NOT even show up as a device in Finder for dragging and dropping.

There is zero compatibility between a Blackberry Storm and an Apple Mac when connected via cable.

I had no problem with my Storm. I am only using it with my mac to get songs from iTunes on it. Recognized the Storm fine. I just opened up the music folder and dragged songs to it. I've done this a number of times already. Maybe restarting your computer will help? I know you probably did that already but figured I'd throw it out there.

I'm cracking up at this thread. :D:D

The iPhone is a fine device and the Storm is a fine device, both having their shortcomings and both having some very nice features. Now I do not have an iPhone but do have a Touch and I get email (exchange server) just fine on my Touch, as I do on my Storm. I think overall I like the Storm for typing and I'm a fan of the click screen after a few weeks with it. I do spend more time on my Storm than my iPod Touch, even when at home where I have the WiFi connection.

Since they are both great devices the overriding factor for me was the network and Verizon is much better in my particular area. If I lived 15 miles closer to NYC I don't think it would matter. I also get a 22% discount with VZW so it makes it an even easier choice. If 15 miles closer to NYC and no discount thru either service though, I think I'd probably go with AT&T but might actually get a BOLD instead of the iPhone. To me the benefit of a touch screen is the extra screen space, not the touch itself. I can type much faster on an actual keyboard as opposed to a touch screen keyboard (although I do type faster on the Storm as compared to the iPod Touch).
 
Does the author even know what he's talking about?

The Storm's browser does use Webkit.
Get your facts right kid.

the Storm browser is based off webkit but webkit is not one running the show. its only got some WebKit stuff mixed into its older browser mainframe., not like Google G1 Chrome and Safari fully webkit based.

full WebKit or not on BB storm, its slower than the iPhone Safari.

FYI i just switched jobs from you*know*who at waterloo to :apple: so i know what i'm talking about.
 
the problem with any Verizon phone is the carrier cripples it with their software, which is one of the reasons why Jobs didn't want to happen to the iPhone. The best thing about the iPhone is it's software
 
the problem with any Verizon phone is the carrier cripples it with their software, which is one of the reasons why Jobs didn't want to happen to the iPhone. The best thing about the iPhone is it's software

Riiiiiight. Jobs would much rather cripple it himself, far more than Verizon does on other smartphones, from Bluetooth to MMS to app availability.

On the good side of things, Apple has kept the GPS data open to apps.
 
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