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Just because Verizon is launching a LTE 4G network means little, since an LTE iPhone would still likely have to support the CDMA 3G technology, EVDO in order to be on Verizon. That would mean Apple would still have to make a CDMA iPhone and a GSM iPhone, because Verizon's LTE network will not be widespread enough for it to be the only network supporting this iPhone.

very good point. just today engadget and gizmodo reported on a cdma/lte LG phone that passed FCC inspection. A verzion iphone would still require cdma which would be a step back in functionality for the iphone, because verizion dosn't have a magic switch that will instantly rollout LTE to the entire country. Also if apple were to release a CDMA phone it would work on two networks in the entire world, verizon and sprint. They would certainly lose money on producing a custom phone for ONE carrier. They are better off making att improve their network.
 
They would certainly lose money on producing a custom phone for ONE carrier.

Then why does every other major manufacturer do it? Don't forget, Verizon = 90 million new customers to open up to. I'd say they could sell at least 4 million Verizon iPhones ... which would be more than a third of the number of iPhones sold globally last year.
 
Then why does every other major manufacturer do it? Don't forget, Verizon = 90 million new customers to open up to. I'd say they could sell at least 4 million Verizon iPhones ... which would be more than a third of the number of iPhones sold globally last year.

Oh yeah RIM made LOADs of money last year and verizon has GREAt phones. most phone makes make crappy phones to support verizon and sprint just so they have a phone on those carriers. They real money is in GSM phones, otherwise know as what the rest of the world outside verizon uses. China mobile dosn't count because their whole network was about locking customers down in the beginning.
 
also one point that no one has mentioned is that CDMA phones are quite power hungry do to the way they connect to the network. And a duel CDMA/LTE phone would likely have even worse battery life due to the two radios. So the phone would have to get thicker to support two radios and to have a bigger battery just to keep it the same, let alone improve it, and hell would freeze over before apple released a noticeably thicker iPhone.
 
Can vs. Cannot debate is useless. Leave it up to Apple and Verizon. If Verizon really wants iPhone and if Apple really wants to sell millions more iPhones in US, they will work things out. 2 years is plenty of time and who knows what will happen in 2 years.
 
I agree.
Even if it does pass but I highly doubt that the FCC will not force them to create a whole new phone with a different chipset. Worst thing it will work on Tmobile also.
Keep hoping and wait as the years go by :D
Verizon got alot of people brainwashed with "Its the Network" and Can you hear me now commercials thinking noone else got coverage out there.

The horse is already dead, quit kicking it.



If anything, it makes T-Mobile more likely to carry the iPhone than Verizon.
 
Oh yeah RIM made LOADs of money last year and verizon has GREAt phones. most phone makes make crappy phones to support verizon and sprint just so they have a phone on those carriers. They real money is in GSM phones, otherwise know as what the rest of the world outside verizon uses. China mobile dosn't count because their whole network was about locking customers down in the beginning.

RIM reported fourth-quarter earnings Wednesday after the close of the stock market, and the numbers were good. The company took in $1.9 billion in revenue, more than double last year's fourth-quarter haul of $930.4 million. And it had $412.5 million left over in profits, equal to 72 cents a share in earnings and two cents better than what Wall Street analysts were expecting.

Verizon does have great phones. Just no iPhone. I'd take Verizon's selection over any other provider in the US right now.
 
Yeah right.
They get the models that GSM carriers have about a year or 2 later :D
Great phones? More like boring phones filled up with Vcast and VZnavigator and other verizon branding along with disabling major features.

Verizon does have great phones. Just no iPhone. I'd take Verizon's selection over any other provider in the US right now.
 
RIM reported fourth-quarter earnings Wednesday after the close of the stock market, and the numbers were good. The company took in $1.9 billion in revenue, more than double last year's fourth-quarter haul of $930.4 million. And it had $412.5 million left over in profits, equal to 72 cents a share in earnings and two cents better than what Wall Street analysts were expecting.

Verizon does have great phones. Just no iPhone. I'd take Verizon's selection over any other provider in the US right now.

Yes but most of that money was made by businesses that force their workers to have blackberrys due to the Blackberry enterprise server. In a recent poll of iPhone 3GS buyers 12% were leaving blackberrys. but I digress. Even RIM who makes CDMA and GSM phone realized there is more money in GSM phones because all of their flagship phones were released on GSM networks. They were the Bold, the 8900, and the pearl flip. Heck even the first pearl was realesed on T-Mobile and only this month has the pearl flip been released on verizon. the exceptions are the storm and the forthcoming tour which is a CDMA version of 8900 that ATT and T-Mobile already have. I'm not saying the iPhone will not ever come to verizon but now I think It would be counterproductive for the platform to release a CDMA version. I think Apple will release a verizon iPhone when CDMA is completely dead and a dual handset is not required.
 
Umm, the Storm is THE flagship phone for RIM and it's only released for CDMA which sort of shoots that theory down.
 
Umm, the Storm is THE flagship phone for RIM and it's only released for CDMA which sort of shoots that theory down.

Yeah but look at how the storm has turned out. BTW i thought blackberry's were known for their keyboards? so wouldn't that make the Bold their flagship?

P.S. I went and looked at verizon's homepage the only mention of the "flagship" storm is in how their trying desperatly to sell them by giving customers $50 off of one.
 
Verizon can die in a fire!!! They won't be getting the iPhone anytime soon. So people, shut it and be happy. Besides, even if they do switch to Verizon crap, there will still be people wishing it be back with AT&T (like me and many others) or instead why not someone else (T-Mobile). [Sorry Sprint is a dieing thing, so they don't count]

Also, did I mention Verizon can die in a fire? No, well VERIZON CAN DIE IN A FIRE!
 
And the Tour is not just an 8900 with Verizon its actually more powerful than the Bold in a smaller form factor. But in reality I do not see Verizon getting an iPhone anytime soon but that sure would put a lot more iPhones on the street.
 
I think if Apple were to not form exclusivity agreements with any carrier, then they would have complete control and the carriers would be competing to make the iPhone on their network more appealing to consumers. As soon as one carrier started offering MMS, the other carriers would be scrambling to offer MMS (example). Both the consumers and Apple would win. Although Apple would not receive "exclusivity" money from a certain carrier, I think they would come out ahead in the long run because more people would buy their phones, and hopefully the competition would lower smart phone monthly service fees, which would cause more people to buy iPhones. I think Apple sees this now, and it is becoming more appealing to them as they become more frustrated with AT&T.

No the exclusivity is what gave Apple the complete control. Apple wanted a high percentage of the profit and wanted to dictate where the iPhones could be sold. That is why you only see iPhones at Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Apple Stores, and AT&T Stores. Please don't tell me that AT&T is to blame for the iPhone not having MMS. The iPhone hasn't had MMS by Apple's design.
 
Yeah but look at how the storm has turned out. BTW i thought blackberry's were known for their keyboards? so wouldn't that make the Bold their flagship?

P.S. I went and looked at verizon's homepage the only mention of the "flagship" storm is in how their trying desperatly to sell them by giving customers $50 off of one.

Considering how much they've been pushing it and comparing it to the iPhone, spending money on ads, etc, I think it's safe to say the storm is their flagship product.

I see four storm ads if I watch 2 hrs of TV and I never see product ads for any of their other phones.
 
And the Tour is not just an 8900 with Verizon its actually more powerful than the Bold in a smaller form factor. But in reality I do not see Verizon getting an iPhone anytime soon but that sure would put a lot more iPhones on the street.

I went and looked up the tour for more info. i was wrong the tour is a smaller form factor bold. but that is beside the point. my point was that even
RIM seems to release MOST of its flagship phones on to GSM networks first. how about the new GSM curve without a trackball but and optical mouse?
 
The Storm is nowhere near the Blackberry flagship.
I'd agree with the bold but not the Storm.
Even Rim admited that the Storm was a let down on their first try with touchscreen. They said they corrected alot of issues on the upcomming Storm 2.

Umm, the Storm is THE flagship phone for RIM and it's only released for CDMA which sort of shoots that theory down.
 
I went and looked up the tour for more info. i was wrong the tour is a smaller form factor bold. but that is beside the point. my point was that even
RIM seems to release MOST of its flagship phones on to GSM networks first. how about the new GSM curve without a trackball but and optical mouse?


I agree completely. I feel RIM had to venture more into the CDMA market because they were losing the consumer level customers to the iPhone in the GSM market which is one reason why they are releasing more Verizon-specific phones. But yeah they still do release most of their newer berries on GSM like the Bold and upcoming Onyx (and that new curve with the optical pad is barely an update from the 8300, its more of an entry level device).
 
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