Why would ANYONE actually prefer stock instead of jailbreak?

[lordofthereef]

Security issues?
Software Update Issues?
Issues restoring IOS?

Of those three, security issues are probably the only potential issue, and even those are null if you don't install random apps from random untrusted repos.

You can always restore your phone to stock and you can always update to stock from jailbreak. You just can't necessarily always get jailbreak back is all.

 

[BaldiMac]

I lack integrity? Let's just put all these words in order....

• I claim that piracy never enters my mind.
• You claim that means I lack integrity.

So....either you think only pirates have integrity, or you didn't read my comment very well. Or you don't know what 'integrity' means.

Maybe you are arguing semantic differences between piracy and copyright infringement? You spent your whole post describing different ways that you modify iOS in ways that violate Apple's exclusive rights under copyright law. That was what I was referring to as a lack of integrity. (Not to mention iMAME.)

 

[ucfgrad93]

Why would I prefer to jailbreak?

It doesn't offer me anything that I want or need, I'm very happy with a stock device.

I also want to get the latest iOS update as soon as it's available. For my purposes, I see no reason to jailbreak.

I got over the 'cool customisations' a long time ago, and never been into pirating apps.

Pretty much how I feel about jailbreaking as well.

 

[JAT]

Maybe you are arguing semantic differences between piracy and copyright infringement? You spent your whole post describing different ways that you modify iOS in ways that violate Apple's exclusive rights under copyright law. That was what I was referring to as a lack of integrity. (Not to mention iMAME.)

Wow, I thought you were going to have something difficult for me to worry about. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/feds-ok-iphone-jailbreaking/

Also, your line about MAME is a knock about piracy. But you knew that.

Accusations sure must be fun. Because every thread about jb turns into mindless accusations from "the faithful".

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Of those three, security issues are probably the only potential issue, and even those are null if you don't install random apps from random untrusted repos.

The worst security problem I know of is that iMessages doesn't easily get shut off. And that's on Apple.

 

[Xenomorph]

Why would anyone limit themselves to stock iOS versus the tremendous benefits of jailbreak? Especially given how safe and easy it is to simply restore your device

1) I don't want to run some kid's cracked software on my $750 computing device.

2) The "let's pirate everything" "who pays for apps?" community is a huge turd.

3) The "theme everything" "let's see who can make their device look the worst" community is just gross.

4) The "who needs to follow design guidelines?" style of so many jailbreak apps is just horrible.

5) The "who needs to test anything?" and the "HELP MY PHONE KEEPS RESPRINGING!" danger of root-level apps isn't pleasant.

6) My iPhone runs well enough when it is left at stock! Amazing, I know. It actually works out of the box. No need to run some l33t hacker's crack program on it to "free" it.

 

[linkgx1]

If I'm going to jailbreak, then I'm going back to Android. That's why I prefer stock.

 

[chambone]

Threads like this sure make the prejudiced bigots float to the top.

 

[ChasingFrames]

Because I don't need to tether.
Because I don't video chat, ever.

Because when I've tried it in the past, the battery life hit took me from a full day of functioning to less than 10 hours.

But most of all, because the amount of time saved by having a few flip-switches for settings or weather in full view doesn't make up for the amount of time I'd spend messing around with tiny details to get it perfect.

 

[batting1000]

I like being stock. I want my device to be how Apple meant it to be. Can't be bothered download all these packages, repos, etc. Plus, downloading too many makes the device unstable.

 

[DodgeV83]

Sometimes common sense is wrong. Like in this case. Everything you just said is user-controlled. So, where is the issue? User could also fling the phone at a brick wall. Wall's fault? Maybe these hapless people you are apparently referencing don't actually need to have a $650 phone if it's that dangerous for them.

Only one thing I mentioned is user-controlled, the part about installing unverified apps. Of course, that's assuming a few things:

1. Users have a reasonable way to determine if a Jailbroken app is safe.

2. The user doesn't mistakingly leave their phone unlocked for a few seconds.

When a phone is Jailbroken, it only takes a few seconds for someone to open Cydia and install SSH, or a keylogger...etc, then put the phone down like nothing happened. They will not be prompted for your password. While I understand "physical access = root access", this level of insecurity brings it to a whole new level.

Besides that, the other two points I mentioned are not user-controlled...unless the user chooses to not jailbreak, which is my recommondation.

 

[sracer]

Why would anyone limit themselves to stock iOS versus the tremendous benefits of jailbreak? Especially given how safe and easy it is to simply restore your device

One of the main reasons for choosing an iPhone over an Android phone is the out-of-the-box experience. Everything just works. Granted, the functionality may be limited compared to what the hardware is capable of, but Apple does a decent but slowly progressing job of managing the user experience.

I've jailbroken my iPhones and iPod Touches in the past... repeatedly. But each time, the experience was WORSE than before it was jailbroken. Battery life and stability both suffered. So I go back to factory.

I think a more interesting question would be, "Why would anyone go through the effort to jailbreak an iPhone vs. simply buying an Android smartphone?"

 

[BaldiMac]

Wow, I thought you were going to have something difficult for me to worry about. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/feds-ok-iphone-jailbreaking/

So you posted a link to an article that has nothing to do with what I said. Fancy. Maybe you should actually read it.

The exception that the article that you are talking about was about exempting jailbreaking from the DMCA for specific purposes. In this case, it makes it legal to circumvent restrictions that prevent you from installing otherwise compatible apps. Jailbreaking is legal for this use.

However, that does not make it legal to modify iOS in order to add additional functionality. The DMCA exemption is not a get out of jail free card for copyright infringement. Apple has exclusive rights under copyright law to modify iOS and create "derivative works", subject to specific limitations, of course.

Also, your line about MAME is a knock about piracy. But you knew that.

Absolutely. Isn't that what we were talking about?

Accusations sure must be fun. Because every thread about jb turns into mindless accusations from "the faithful".

Awfully convenient that people that disagree with you are mindless fanboys. You can probably win every argument by just calling them names.

I'm not questioning your claim because I am a mindless fanboy, I'm questioning your claim because I respect the rights of creators under copyright law, and I believe your actions that you described are clearly illegal.

 

[0007776]

I don't jailbreak any more because stock iOS has gotten to the point where it has just about everything I jailbroke for in it, and official unlocks are available. Plus my old jailbroken and unlocked 3G was fairly unstable, and I have no issues with the stock 4s with an official unlock.

 

[dahauss]

I have a JB iPhone 4S. Not one problem. I couldn't deal with a stock phone .. the ability to put all my important info on the lock screen, have instant toggles, be able to put an unlimited amount of icons in a folder (and folders inside folders) and also th great mail enhancer tweak which allows me to set quiet times etc and a bunch of other great tweaks is well worth it. Oh and don't forget the 5 row keyboard .... not one slow down as long as you know not to load too many tweaks.....

 

[s15119]

you dont care about tethering for free?
or using facetime for free..considering they are going to charge for it on the 5.

Nope, I'm not a thief.

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Why would anyone limit themselves to stock iOS versus the tremendous benefits of jailbreak? Especially given how safe and easy it is to simply restore your device

I've never found the need. My phone works perfectly for me the way it is.

 

[x-evil-x]

Nope, I'm not a thief.

wow, arent you special...

 

[daneoni]

Because we are no longer at iOS 1 or 2 when the OS only had a dearth of features. Things have rapidly progressed and about 98% of the features you would ever want/need have been officially implemented.

 

[x-evil-x]

I've never found the need. My phone works perfectly for me the way it is.

im iphone 3g worked fine too stock. But the added benefit of some things made and makes a huge improvement.
Of course stock works fine you don't know what your missing out on...No need to bash people because they like to add features that arent there stock...

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Was reading this thread, registered just to quote this post and note that it was conveniently glossed over.

I believe it is x-evil-x who continues to extoll the virtues of stealing bandwidth, claiming he doesn't like wasting money, giving it away to the big greedy corporation, and that we're all stupid for not stealing and getting free tethering.

I find that argument impossibly stupid. You still pay for service and unlimited data, you still give your service provider a lot of money every month, but you feel like a rebel by saving $20 and stealing tethering?

If you feel so strongly about giving money to these greedy corporations, maybe you're better off with an iPod touch used strictly on wifi and a cheap prepaid flip phone?

There is a lot of people that feel the same way about this topic. its my data i want to use it the way i want. ATT will be charging for facetime now over the network. Im in college 100$ a month for the last 4 years is all i want to spend and ill do what i can to keep it around that.
please tell me what im doing is unethical.

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while AT&T ceo has said this.
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/04/att-ceos-only-regret-is-offering-unlimited-data-packages/

they are just money hungry and dont care about how much they are already charging. Some of the things they do really piss me off. But what i am doing is wrong.... makes sense. Data is data

 

[Calidude]

What a lazy, weak and inaccurate answer

Hardly. The benefits of jailbreaking are legion.

 

[ernbrdn]

Sorry I'm not going to read all of the responses to this thread. "If it's not broken don't fix it" is my motto. Personally I love Apple's approach and I don't jailbreak for the same reason I don't ever want to use Android ever again. It's a huge PITA.

 

[Applejuiced]

Its not for everyone.
Personally I wont buy an iphone unless there's a JB available for it.
There's so many great packages you can install on a JB iphone and so much stuff you can do that Apple will never give you that freedom.

 

[eastercat]

Considering there are people who like to update to the latest ios when it comes out, they should definitely avoid jb.

I originally jb the first iphone because I wanted custom ringtones. That was pretty much it until I wanted to travel to europe with my 3G. I then looked into software unlocks; that really got me back into jb.

Now that I have a carrier unlock, I keep jb for apps like fake clock up (to help speed up my 4), tetherme (apn editing), show case (it displays the correct letter case on the keyboard), open notifier (puts mail and other icons in the status bar) and stampr (puts custom text on each pic).
I used to use iannounce, but that doesn't seem to be compatible with 5.1.1.; it would announce the person's name and which number they were calling from.

I have no interest in pirating apps or using winterboard. The former is for jerks. The latter, imo, slows down the phone and seems juvenile (insert old lady moment).

JB is not for people who are too lazy or dim to keep up with the jb community. You have to know what you're doing to ameliorate a screw up. The worst are those who really manage to screw it up by not taking basic precautions.
If you know you're not technically competent or are unwilling to keep up with the basics of maintaining the jb, you should definitely stay stock.

 

[sracer]

Its not for everyone.
Personally I wont buy an iphone unless there's a JB available for it.
There's so many great packages you can install on a JB iphone and so much stuff you can do that Apple will never give you that freedom.

But why do you buy a phone that you need to jailbreak when Android phones can be customized without the need to jailbreak? What is so compelling about the iPhone? Is it as simple as being rebellious? (I'm going to do it because Apple says I can't)

Disclaimer: I own an iPhone 4 and really enjoy using it, but am curious about the reasons for going that JB route.

 

[Applejuiced]

But why do you buy a phone that you need to jailbreak when Android phones can be customized without the need to jailbreak? What is so compelling about the iPhone? Is it as simple as being rebellious? (I'm going to do it because Apple says I can't)

Disclaimer: I own an iPhone 4 and really enjoy using it, but am curious about the reasons for going that JB route.

Good question.
I like the iphone and iOS experience. Im not interested in Android or other mobile operating systems.
I just like to enhance it with some additions of things not available currently from Apple or the Appstore but only from Cydia.
Things like Bitesms, fakeclockup,Sbsettings,MyWi,activator,3Gunrestrictor,igotya and other availabe usefull packages for JB devices.
Im Not the I want to be rebellious type, Im too old for that
Like my bud Eastercat said above its not for everyone, most people should not bother and stay away from JB if they dont put in the time and effort to understanding how, what, why and many other things that jailbreaking does and each package they install to their device.
Im into computer programming all my life so I like to go deeper and further than the average user. Im interested in understanding and enjoy tinkering and fixing things that might go wrong with addons that cause issues with others and various conflicts that you might encounter.
Some users just hit the one button JB program for example. Then open up cydia and start installing every package there is out there or that sounds cool. Then they have probs and cant find why or what is the prob out of the 87 packages installed or the tons of themes, live wallpapers etc...
Then they're like ******* JB, this sucks
For me I like to keep it simple. I only download and install the packages that I need and use on the regural. Packages that are well known and by respected companies or authors in the JB scene. And I can count less than 10 JB hacks that I use and install. I have a very solid and stable 4S without any slowdowns, crashes or other issues.

 

[MacDawg]

Hardly. The benefits of jailbreaking are legion.

For some users perhaps

But to reduce the plethora of reasons for staying stock to simply "indoctrination" is small minded, petty and borderline trolling
And it is insulting to the number of users who have stated their solid reasons within this thread

But then again, I would expect nothing less from you
I try to give you the benefit of the doubt repeatedly and yet you always seem to confirm your status