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Why would I not get the Nike version of the series 4
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I am more unhappy that Apple gets paid 9 billion dollars a year to use Google as it's default search engine!
Remind me, what's the trade-in value on the S3 stainless steel model this year relative to its purchase price?
Don't misunderstand, I'd love to go with a SS model, but IMHO the feature set is changing too much with each year's model to buy into to something for 3+ years. (again, IMHO)
The differences are the additional watch faces, the different band/loop, and the NRC app, which is exclusive to the Nike+ version. Yes, there are other Nike running apps, but they're not the same. My wife had been using the Nike+ version and thought about waiting for the S4 Nike+ Watch for that reason. In the end, she decided the native Workout app is slightly better and went with the regular Sport Watch.
Agree, you get slaughtered on resale/trade-in.
Remind me, what's the trade-in value on the S3 stainless steel model this year relative to its purchase price?
Don't misunderstand, I'd love to go with a SS model, but IMHO the feature set is changing too much with each year's model to buy into to something for 3+ years. (again, IMHO)
Agree, you get slaughtered on resale/trade-in.
What exactly do you think are the differences between the NRC app on Nike AW versus the NRC app that is downloaded into a standard AW?
I'm pretty sure they're the same thing, except on a Nike AW, you can't fully delete the app, you can only hide it.
From my experience with the S3 Nike edition, I think the only difference was that you could start the NRC app from Siri -- "Hey Siri lets go for a run"
Good question - I didn't compare the features, so it might in fact be the same? I only know that the Nike+ version is set up as a separate app and can't be installed on a non-Nike+ Watch. (I had a Nike+ S3 and bought a regular Sport S4 last week, and, oddly, the Watch app on my phone still shows the NRC Nike+ version, but it won't install it.)
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(laughs). If that's all, that's nothing? My wife did find that she couldn't import her Nike+ NRC data into the other app, but as I said she's using the native app now anyway.
I've been going back and forth on if I want to get SBSS or Nike Space Gray.
I have a series 0 and part of the reason I never upgraded was because I didn't think the resale value was good enough on the SS to justify selling and buying a newer one, so now I am leaning toward the aluminum watch so that if I choose to upgrade to the next series it doesn't feel like I'm taking such a big hit.
...Now to decide between LTE or not
I have a series 0 and part of the reason I never upgraded was because I didn't think the resale value was good enough on the SS to justify selling and buying a newer one, so now I am leaning toward the aluminum watch so that if I choose to upgrade to the next series it doesn't feel like I'm taking such a big hit.
...Now to decide between LTE or not
I'd think the app would update with her Nike+ data from the Nike back end regardless of whether she was on a Nike edition watch or downloaded it to a non-Nike edition watch. She did sign into the same Nike+ account, yes?
My main reason I'd been using the NRC app had been that RunGap hadn't been able to extract the GPS tracks from the Apple Workout app data -- which was a pretty big deal for me. I also like NRCs ability to track shoe mileage. Downside has been the ongoing Sword of Damocles -- Nike's closed system and RunGap's statement that they'll not fix the interface again if Nike breaks how it currently works.
I see now that it looks like RunGap can pull GPS tracks from Apple Activity app -- I'll have to give that a try and see how it goes.
Where are people getting the idea that the Nike AW has a different version of NRC than non-Nike AW's? My understanding is that it's just the regular NRC that can be installed by anyone from the App Store. When a Nike AW is paired with an iPhone the setup process does give a prompt to install NRC but it's not required.
That is not a compelling argument, nor even relevant. The SS is still better than the aluminum.Remind me, what's the trade-in value on the S3 stainless steel model this year relative to its purchase price?
Don't misunderstand, I'd love to go with a SS model, but IMHO the feature set is changing too much with each year's model to buy into to something for 3+ years. (again, IMHO)
Are you claiming to speak for everyone when you say SS is "better"? There are differences, pros, and cons, but "better" is subjective.
And if you're comment about compelling/relevant argument is in regards to resale/trade-in value, it's very much compelling and relevant to some. Look at all these car commercials that tout resell value.
Just add "to/for me" to the end of your comments and you'll sound "better".
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I never said the SS wasn’t better. Yet oddly my S3 Nike still looks great and I don’t baby it. SS likely would be mint vs very good though — which goes back to my first sentence.
As for irrelevance, perhaps you’re in a place where an extra ~$200 per year is irrelevant, but for us regular folks it’s a lot of money. The alternative is to forego new capabilities/ features for a couple years but that’s still a “cost” in loss of utility.
When product updates become less substantial, then it would be less impactful to skip one or two watch generations. Having owned an S2 and S3, that difference made me glad to jump. From what I’ve seen the S4 is a decent upgrade from the S3, though the difference in out of pocket between selling an SS S3 to buy an SS S4 would make the upgrade much less attractive.
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Better in what way? Greater depreciation? Greater weight? Maybe it's just better for you, which is more than good enough.
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I haven't made a scientific inquiry here
but I did notice that when I tried to install the NRC app that had been on my S3 Nike+ when I was setting up my S4 Sport, it wouldn't install (gave me a little protest message). But that's the limit of what I know about this - I have no idea whether the actual functionality differs at all (and can't compare them now). If I get some time I might Google that - someone must have made a comparison at some point in the last year or two?
There is a non-configurable Nike+ logo on 1 of the 2 Nike watch faces that opens NRC directly. I would consider this to be an item linked to the Nike-specific watch faces, and not a difference with the NRC app, per se.
The NRC app is not exclusive the the Nike+ version and you can still use the native workout app on the Nike+..
Correct. The Nike specific watch faces have a fixed complication for NRC.
Note you can add NRC as a complication to other (Apple) faces — don't know if that’s just on the Nike model though. (EDIT: yes, you can add the NRC complication to watch faces on non-Nike watches)
I’ve never seen anything suggesting the watch app is any different though. You’d think if there was a substantive app difference/benefit that Nike would be advertising it.
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I had the SS original Apple Watch and the SBSS Apple Watch 2. I went with the Aluminum Series 4 and I think I like it better. It's lighter weight and I actually like the finish. It didn't show fingerprint smudges life the SS ones do and it almost has a white silver look, instead of a grey silver. In the Apple Store, under their lighting, you could almost mistake the Aluminum version for the ceramic one.
Honestly i dont like the nike watch faces. they are just nike advertisements with their logo in them.
I am getting the regular one from apple directly, despite being the same price, i would never use those nike faces anyway.
I am getting the regular one from apple directly, despite being the same price, i would never use those nike faces anyway.
You not liking the Nike watch faces is perfectly valid. But I personally feel the debate comes down to the Nike AW losing zero functionality and gaining a few, compared to the regular AW for the exact same price. The gained features are subjective but, again, you lose nothing.
Obviously, if you don't like the Nike bands at the same time as not caring for the Nike features, then it makes perfect sense to go with the regular AW.
And I'm not sure your point on the Nike watch face just being an advertisement for Nike. Maybe you don't, but plenty of people wear Nike/Reebok/Adidas/etc clothing with logos that are a lot more prevalent than a watch face but I wouldn't necessarily consider that as "advertising" for the brand.
How easy/difficult is the exchange process? I got my Watch on Friday and am thinking about going in this Friday and exchanging it for the Nike model. Is it as simple as giving them my Series 4 back (which I’ve obviously been using) and just ringing up a Nike model?
I still have another week to return so it doesn’t matter, but I have a feeling they’ll have them.