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One of my 3 GoogleWifi mesh units sits directly behind my monitor...glad I didn't buy this. Going to be very expensive for LG to retrofit existing ones. And will piss off people (rightly so). This is their 4k botloop drama. Oh, LG.
 
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Helpful information for anyone looking to buy one, and wanting to make sure it was manufactured during or after February:

LG serial numbers include the manufacture date as the first three digits. The first digit is the year number, and the second two digits are the month.

For example, if the first three digits are 702, this means 2017, February.

So, you will want one that is 702 onwards.
 
Bet now they wish they had built their own monitor to avoid this embarrassment...

Whatever happened to "It just works."?

1. Apple doesn't stay in spaces that aren't making money and growing, just like any sensible business.
2. Apple didn't make this product, so it's ridiculous to hold them responsible any more than it is to hold Ford responsible for a flat tire from Goodyear.
 
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Helpful information for anyone looking to buy one, and wanting to make sure it was manufactured during or after February: LG serial numbers include the manufacture date as the first three digits. The first digit is the year number, and the second two digits are the month. For example, if the first three digits are 702, this means 2017, February. So, you will want one that is 702 onwards.

Are Apple /LG still selling (un-fixed) pre-Feb UltraFine monitors [Serial < #702]? Why would they do that, especially now that this defect is widely-known?

Also, I've tried specifing such codes with past purchases of other devices, but it has never been possible. For example, there are two versions of the iPhone-7..
 
Are Apple /LG still selling (un-fixed) pre-Feb UltraFine monitors [Serial < #702]? Why would they do that, especially now that this defect is widely-known?

Also, I've tried specifing such codes with past purchases of other devices, but it has never been possible. For example, there are two versions of the iPhone-7..
Yep they're still selling through the defective models!

Why? Well, $$$.

Most buyers probably won't ever know about this.

(Re the serials, there is a distinction between manufacture date and model number. It is possible to determine the manufacture date of the displays as I have stated, and for Apple products, the fourth and fifth digits are what matter, but decoding the year and date is more complicated. The model version, e.g. the two versions of iPhone you mention, is another matter.)
 
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The special pricing ($974 instead of $1300) is going to end on March 31. And the new 'fixed' models will be available about that time too. Does anyone think this is suspicious? The shielding will cost a bit extra for LG to make, so were they trying to get away with selling an unshielded model until they could bump up the price and incorporate shielding?
 
The special pricing ($974 instead of $1300) is going to end on March 31. And the new 'fixed' models will be available about that time too. Does anyone think this is suspicious? The shielding will cost a bit extra for LG to make, so were they trying to get away with selling an unshielded model until they could bump up the price and incorporate shielding?
Considering they are going to at least incur the cost of collecting, refurbing, and returning a load of monitors, I think this is unlikely. The actual shielding will cost next to nothing.
 
1. Apple doesn't stay in spaces that aren't making money and growing, just like any sensible business.
2. Apple didn't make this product, so it's ridiculous to hold them responsible any more than it is to hold Ford responsible for a flat tire from Goodyear.

But Apple did stand on stage and promote this display as being developed "in partnership", so they are responsible for the shipped product. Does it really not come with an equivalent Apple warranty? That's shameful, too.

This seems like a production issue, not a design issue, to me. Someone forgot the "shielding"' step that is standard in all of their monitors, I would expect.
 
A display with no sheilding?

...you don't need no freakin' shielding if you're planning to have a nice solid aluminium case.

More weak circumstantial evidence for my theory that this was going to be an Apple product right up to the point where they saw the estimate for the development/tooling-up costs of the enclosure (& realised they'd need at least 2 colours), and decided they'd rather spend the money on watch bands.
 
...you don't need no freakin' shielding if you're planning to have a nice solid aluminium case.

More weak circumstantial evidence for my theory that this was going to be an Apple product right up to the point where they saw the estimate for the development/tooling-up costs of the enclosure (& realised they'd need at least 2 colours), and decided they'd rather spend the money on watch bands.

Or up to the point where they decided to kill the Mac Pro and Mac Mini.
 
Considering they are going to at least incur the cost of collecting, refurbing, and returning a load of monitors, I think this is unlikely. The actual shielding will cost next to nothing.
If it's so cheap, then why didn't they include it? Has LG got a history of unshielded displays?
 
More weak circumstantial evidence for my theory that this was going to be an Apple product right up to the point where they saw the estimate for the development/tooling-up costs of the enclosure
I really think this is right. It's an Apple display inside, but they had to announce something in October, and the manpower and cost were huge, so they turfed it off to LG who slapped something together.

This interference supports that, as you say.

But also, several journalists such as John Gruber and Matt Panzarino claim that they were informally told by Apple that designing a Cinema Display took almost as much effort as making a new design of Mac.
 
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Bet now they wish they had built their own monitor to avoid this embarrassment...

Whatever happened to "It just works."?
Apple has had its own track-record of embarrassments when it comes to new (or newly redesigned) products.

There's more than a few MacRumors folks who won't buy first-gen Apple products for this very reason!
 
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I said it before and I'll say it again. ONE LOOK at this hunk of garbage and you know not to purchase it.

There was ZERO thought put into it's design, which means ZERO thought was put into it's innards. This is the epitome of "get a 5k monitor out there, ASAP".
 
Bet now they wish they had built their own monitor to avoid this embarrassment...

Whatever happened to "It just works."?

Although you could potentially say that Apple products "just worked" some years ago to a certain degree, right now, they are just as buggy, if not more buggy, then the android/Windows counterpart. It is a shame really, and much less acceptable when it comes to Apple, as their hardware/software compared to the others is a lot less complicated due to the closed garden/much less variations of hardware that it has to work on.
 
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If it's so cheap, then why didn't they include it? Has LG got a history of unshielded displays?
The full statement from LG states that the repair process includes adding "enhanced" shielding.

I'll hazard a guess - and it is just a guess - that it has the same amount of shielding as their other displays, but that Thunderbolt 3 is more susceptible to interference - something that was missed because it was rushed out. So the repair is to add more shielding, rather than adding shielding to a product that had none.
 
The 4K monitors report similar symptoms this problem allegedly creates, including kernel panics on the connected MacBooks. The high number of reports are keeping me from buying any of the LG UltraFine monitors. What other Retina display USB-C options are out there?

I bought the 4K UHD LG 27UD88-W.
(3840x2160 IPS, 99%+ sRGB, 1xUSB-C PD=60W 3A@20V, 1xDP 1.2, 2xHDMI 2.0, 2xUSB 3.0, headphone, no speakers)

And drive it using DP 1.2 (15Gbps) off my MBP Retina TB 2.0 port (retina 2X workspace "looks like 1080p")

The HDMI ports are used: one to drive my Roku Streaming Stick, one to drive my legacy HD cable TV converter.
The USB 3.0 port is used to power the Roku Streaming Stick (1.5A@5V)
The USB-C port remains unused (TB 2.0/DP 1.2 only on my MBPr)

Positives:
  1. Beautiful picture, no bleeding
  2. Well-Built: aesthetically beautiful with narrow bezels and metal stand
  3. Engineered to rise/lower with minimum effort
Negatives:
  1. Lacks integration with Apple intrinsic controls
  2. Manual on/off, soft controls only though an extended menu LG app
  3. LG customer support = "nobody home"
My short take is that it was a great buy from B&H for $599 during cyber week last year.
 
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Ahhh...$1,000 for a display that took 5-6 weeks to ship and they expect people to ship it somewhere for repair. Yea right. This should result in an extended return window at any Apple Store. Essentially a recall. And, hopefully this triggers Apple to make their own display and stop suscepting Mac users to the black plastic world of PC users.
This is another reminder that the Apple we used to know is now a stranger to us. The trust that we had in their product to "just work" has expired. They're just another albeit tech company. I'm really considering a move to linux if I could tear away from the Apple development universe.
 
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