Will a New Apple TV Still Launch This Year?

locoboi187 said:
No I won’t chill on the 8K. I stated before people have 8k video recordings.

If it’s not relevant to you don’t sweat it.

Apple isn’t known to not push the envelope to expensive standards such as their 6k pro displays.
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Bruh, you old school. I started on 16k a long time ago. 😄
 
jblank said:
Let me repeat.....it's not worth it and I'll add, consumers and even experts within the field, are down on 8K having any sort of widespread adoption in the foreseeable future. Also, again, you have to have screen sizes that are huge to notice any difference between 4K and 8K and that's not going to change.

Nobody doubts that it's beautiful, but there is little to no incentive to push support for 8K 60 when the number of people that would actually be able to take advantage of it could be counted on two hands.
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How difficult would it be to future-proof the box with 8K?
 
JoshuaBru said:
I’ve had a ton of Apple products over the years but I’ve never even thought about an Apple TV. What does it offer compared to a smart TVs native apps etc?
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At least in my experience, the apps run much better and look/feel much better on AppleTV. More consistency across apps. I can't really give any examples because I've used AppleTV so long that I forget what the SmartTV apps even look like.
 
I see a lot of people talking about if you use the built in apps on a newer 4k tv you are getting ads. We have several Samsung QLED tv's in our house ranging from 2.5 to 3.5 years old and I have to say we don't ads. Sure we get commercials while watching football games for example but everybody does when watching live tv, but never in an app such as Netflix. Do you you get ads with the other tv brands?
 
onenorth said:
How difficult would it be to future-proof the box with 8K?
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It would likely require the latest processor, at a minimum. I'm not saying never to do it, but Apple's not going to introduce a new ATV just so it can support 8K 60. At this point, we don't even know if/when 8K will even BE the future.
 
ab2c4 said:
I see a lot of people talking about if you use the built in apps on a newer 4k tv you are getting ads. We have several Samsung QLED tv's in our house ranging from 2.5 to 3.5 years old and I have to say we don't ads. Sure we get commercials while watching football games for example but everybody does when watching live tv, but never in an app such as Netflix. Do you you get ads with the other tv brands?
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Yes. Our main TV is an LG OLED and you have to manually disable ads within settings.
 
cocky jeremy said:
I'm definitely due for a new one. I have the first 4K version. I'm sure it's much slower than the new ones, even for just app switches. My current model definitely has some lag/delay once you close an app or open a new one.
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Was it always slow? Or did updates make it slower? I don't know, but a device that is made to stream video in the first place should be upgradable for a long time without it getting slower.
 
Wahlstrm said:
The problem Apple solves is the lack of long term support by manufacturers and streaming services.

Every *TV maker* / *Streaming Service* can’t support a million different TV’s forever, so after a few years your smart TV won’t be so smart anymore.

This is where Apple (and other streaming boxes) come in.

Also, most Smart TV’s UI is complete trash even from the start.

I recently bought an 65” LG G4 and even though it’s supposed to have their new super fast CPU and they offer one of the better UI’s out there (it’s ad free at least) it’s still very ugly and slow compared to my 2021 4K Apple TV.
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So basically its ideal for once a tv gets older and the built in apps no longer get updated?

I know with the built in apps they are slow for about a minute when you first turn the tv on, and launching an app initially, but after that they seem to run fine to me. I haven't done a comparison though with my wife's apple 4tv that we have hooked up to one tv though.
 
jblank said:
Yes. Our main TV is an LG OLED and you have to manually disable ads within settings.
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That would suck and I'm glad you mentioned that. I guess we will stick with Samsung and hope they don't add ads in the future. If they did, at least ATV would be an option.
 
ab2c4 said:
With smart tv's having every streaming app available (including Apple TV+), what is the point of an Apple TV nowadays?
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I just bought the latest ATV 4k for my Samsung OLED TV.

Why? Because family wanted the simplicity of Roku, I didn't want the ads. My Samsung Tizen interface is plenty fast, but its a visual mess with recommendations all over the place.

With ATV I'm not the product, it is. No ads on device itself, simple and easy to use, enough horsepower.

Bonus - my Samsung TV remote controls the ATV which is super nice. Also I took the TV offline so turning it on it defaults to ATV, but I just hit the home button on the Samsung remote and it takes me to a simple screen with two boxes - one for ATV and one for OTA.

My only wish for ATV would be a built in ATSC 3.0 tuner, but I know that won't happen.

EDIT: If I never watched OTA I would just use the ATV remote since it controls the TV. But since we occasionally do I love that the Samsung remote controls the ATV.
 
ab2c4 said:
That would suck and I'm glad you mentioned that. I guess we will stick with Samsung and hope they don't add ads in the future. If they did, at least ATV would be an option.
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Not to play it down, but it's very easy to disable the ads and I wouldn't tell anyone to avoid LG based on them. The TV is amazing, the ads were a minor annoyance quickly remedied.
 
jblank said:
Not to play it down, but it's very easy to disable the ads and I wouldn't tell anyone to avoid LG based on them. The TV is amazing, the ads were a minor annoyance quickly remedied.
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I have heard/read a lot of very good things regarding image quality on the LG OLED's for sure.
 
Lampekap said:
Was it always slow? Or did updates make it slower? I don't know, but a device that is made to stream video in the first place should be upgradable for a long time without it getting slower.
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Don't get me wrong, it isn't terrible. But it is a little slower to open/close than it used to be. I'm not sure if it's apps updating and requiring more resources or the OS itself. Could be a little both, or it could be just the OS, or just the apps. I'm honestly not too sure.
 
The one big thing I do not like about Apple TV is the layout of episodes. I wish it was a tile view and not a horizontal scroll and I wish it it left off on the episode you were viewing instead of defaulting back to the 1st season 1st episode.
 
dampfnudel said:
A18 availability probably won’t be sufficient for the Apple TV 4K 4th generation until next year.
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The reason why I mentioned the A18 SoC on Apple TV is that Apple Intelligence features may be integrated into that streaming box. Don't be surprised if it becomes available by spring 2025.
 
Put an M4 chip in it. They’ve already ported AAA games to the Apple ecosystem, bring those experiences to a TV screen. Customers can BYO controller.
 
ab2c4 said:
With smart tv's having every streaming app available (including Apple TV+), what is the point of an Apple TV nowadays?
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EVERY streaming app, you say? Well, then please kindly tell me: where do I download the NLZiet streaming app for my one year old Panasonic TV? It's not available in their app store and NLZiet says Panasonic's OS isn't supported, but you just said that every streaming app is available, so it must be somewhere.

Also, the YouTube app tends to crash a lot during 4K playback, even though this is a near high-end Panasonic 4K TV that's only one year old, so it should be able to handle those videos.

So yeah, I'm waiting for a new Apple TV to land to make the switch. If it doesn't get announced next month, I'll buy the current model.
 
It all depends on whether Apple overestimated iPhone sales and have enough leftover chips to upgrade Apple TV.
 
ab2c4 said:
We have a 4k ATV from years ago, I don't think we use it anymore as our newer tv's have all the apps built in for streaming. Does it do something else besides streaming tv and movies?
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Who uses the built it apps on their tv? I sure don’t. Apple TV 4K is way more responsive.
 
hagjohn said:
The one big thing I do not like about Apple TV is the layout of episodes. I wish it was a tile view and not a horizontal scroll and I wish it it left off on the episode you were viewing instead of defaulting back to the 1st season 1st episode.
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You can easily change that.
 
ab2c4 said:
I see a lot of people talking about if you use the built in apps on a newer 4k tv you are getting ads. We have several Samsung QLED tv's in our house ranging from 2.5 to 3.5 years old and I have to say we don't ads. Sure we get commercials while watching football games for example but everybody does when watching live tv, but never in an app such as Netflix. Do you you get ads with the other tv brands?
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New Samsungs, there are ads.
 
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