Does the Apple TV give you better picture/audio than the TVs native app for stuff like Max and Netflix ?
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Will a New Apple TV Still Launch This Year?
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That’s not how margin’s work. Also there is no way Apple is going to offer a $50 ATV. They don’t market to the low cost tier, like ever.
Optical doesn’t support Atmos. I’m pretty darn happy with Atmos out of the ATV4K and I have a discrete Atmos setup, not some soundbar upfiring BS. Either way, optical is dead to most with HDMI being king. I’ve had optical and I don’t miss it, too limited these days.
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Looking forward to replacing my 1st gen 4k unit. Didn't realize it's been seven years!!
You realize those are just made up costs that Apple is adding? Macs use integrated storage these days and the cost difference between 128GB and 256GB during manufacturing is almost zero.
I didn't even think of that being an option and if this happens, damn you for speaking it into existence
I'm obsessed with hardwiring everything. Which is a challenge or problem when you have no idea how to run cabling in walls etc lol
You're really missing out! Silo is amazing, stick with it! For all Mankind was great for the first couple seasons. Severance is supposed to be awesome along with several other really good shows. Coda was an incredible movie, everyone should watch it. They don't have the quantity Netflix does but almost everything they have is good to really good.
We aren't getting another Shield
I'm all in for AV1 support though, mostly give us audio passthrough and all DV profiles for local files
bro chill on the 8K lol
TV is still 720p. If you're lucky you're getting programs in 1080p, but thats not even the standard as plenty of things/sources are 720p. Lot's of stuff isn't even available in 4k streaming. Almost zero sports content is 4k, most football/sports are 720p. That's slowly changing to 1080p with some rare 4k sprinkled in. 4k isn't even the standard on streaming content. Plenty of shows/docs aren't in 4k.
4K has been a thing between 10-20 years depending on when you want to say it started, and we are probably nowhere near 50% of content even being available in 4k. I'm sure a huge % of people that watch stuff in 4k don't even know it or wouldn't notice a difference. 8K content isn't coming anywhere near soon to justify paying for 8K stuff. Sony used it as marketing on the PS5 box and they even removed it. Honestly 8k may never really come. People won't be able to tell the difference, it will costs too much, file sizes will be insane with little benefit, lots of 4k movies aren't even real 4k-especially non CGI/animated stuff. The jump from 4K>8K isn't going to be near the previous jumps we've seen. Average people won't have ways to watch it either.
I'm Mr Give me the 100% best quality on earth possible. Biggest most expensive OLED, 100% OG quality pure uncompressed 4k Dolby Vision with Atmos...but 8k isn't anywhere close to even thinking about being a thing. Probably never will be.
Ya Apple isn't doing that. I'd be moderately surprised if we get a $99 one. That's been rumored for years without happening. apple isn' in the business of offering mediocre product that noticeably isn't that great out of the box. Apple always has great margins and of many reasons I just don't see them offering a poverty streamer or something that cheap.
Personally, I don't want a camera or anything else added to it. I'd really only like it if they brought back the optical port for audio listening. I have an older receiver that doesn't have HDMI and it would be nice to just throw an appleTV on it and be able to stream music to it that way even without the screen kind of like the old Airport Express.
WHY would we wonder that? The existing Apple TV is perfectly adequate for all 4K streaming tasks, and will continue to be for years to come. Why this perceived need for "new" versions? To feed the insatiable need for corporate profit growth?
A camera in the AppleTV for FaceTime would be convenient but
1. My AppleTV is currently placed in a way that would not be good for getting the picture or the sound
2. I don't want another uncontrolled camera or microphone in my home
1. My AppleTV is currently placed in a way that would not be good for getting the picture or the sound
2. I don't want another uncontrolled camera or microphone in my home
I bought an HDMI audio extractor. It gives you an optical and HDMI output. No degradation in audio or video quality. Very cheap to buy too.
Owner of 3 4k AppleTVs: The 2 seconds a faster processor will save me in loading up a 2 hour movie is not worth the $XX price?
Is there something I’m missing? Surely this cant be all? Better processing?
Idk seems odd to upgrade from the previous model?
Is there something I’m missing? Surely this cant be all? Better processing?
Idk seems odd to upgrade from the previous model?
Nope. None of them appeal to me. I currently have a free 6 month Apple TV+ subscription and I seriously can't find anything at all I'd want to watch.
I asked the BBC about the problem and they said they support MPEG-DASH encoding, Apple uses its own protocol, HLS - which the BBC does not support. Consequently the BBC only makes available the more basic streaming quality on AppleTV - their programming is not even 1080i/p, it's 720p and definitely no UHD. Given the BBC is the UK's primary broadcaster and viewers are required to pay a license fee, it's a truly appalling situation.
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Heck, the 2015 model which I currently have is still good today. As someone else mentioned, we are still dealing with 1080P for the most part. Amazon, Netflix and Apple TV+ do have 4K content but for the most part most of the stuff is still 1080P.
The problem Apple solves is the lack of long term support by manufacturers and streaming services.
Every *TV maker* / *Streaming Service* can’t support a million different TV’s forever, so after a few years your smart TV won’t be so smart anymore.
This is where Apple (and other streaming boxes) come in.
Also, most Smart TV’s UI is complete trash even from the start.
I recently bought an 65” LG G4 and even though it’s supposed to have their new super fast CPU and they offer one of the better UI’s out there (it’s ad free at least) it’s still very ugly and slow compared to my 2021 4K Apple TV.
Worse than that they don't have have subtitles on Apple TV BBC iPlayer at all. It is on iPhone and iPad and coding should be same and I have asked BBC many times and they keep saying same response that it is very technical challenge problem and apparently Apple TV don't support same subtitle file, no idea if true though. I end up taking Dad older Roku just for BBC iPlayer and everything else on Apple TV.
Thanks for that. Fortunately our LG TV supports iPlayer with UHD over cable, but it’s annoying as it’s the only app we use on the TV!
UX and privacy.
Your smart TV "fingerprints" your screen every second to record what you are watching or playing and then Samsung/Sony/LG/etc sell that data - along with your location - to advertisers.
How to Stop Your Smart TV From Spying on You
Your internet-connected TV has Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) features that track what you watch. Here’s how to disable it, along with smart privacy advice from the FBI and three security experts.
As a result, many people are buying new smart TVs, but never connecting them to the internet, allowing the Apple TV to handle all of your streaming needs. I'm one of them.
Yeah Roku seem like a swell company to trust
Roku disables TVs and streaming devices until users consent to new terms | TechCrunch
Roku users around the country turned on their TVs this week to find an unpleasant surprise: The company required them to consent to new dispute resolution
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No I won’t chill on the 8K. I stated before people have 8k video recordings.
If it’s not relevant to you don’t sweat it.
Apple isn’t known to not push the envelope to expensive standards such as their 6k pro displays.
ATV is hands down the worst piece of Apple gear I own. Forever having to reboot, reinstall apps, and wait for spinning wheels. It’s horrible.
Let me repeat.....it's not worth it and I'll add, consumers and even experts within the field, are down on 8K having any sort of widespread adoption in the foreseeable future. Also, again, you have to have screen sizes that are huge to notice any difference between 4K and 8K and that's not going to change.
Nobody doubts that it's beautiful, but there is little to no incentive to push support for 8K 60 when the number of people that would actually be able to take advantage of it could be counted on two hands.