A18 availability probably won’t be sufficient for the Apple TV 4K 4th generation until next year.
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Will a New Apple TV Still Launch This Year?
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There’s more to Apple TV than streaming, especially for the next generation Apple TV which will get AI and console gaming (like the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max) thanks to the A18 and 8GB of RAM.
The hardware has never been the issue with gaming and Apple, Apple TV or otherwise. Companies just aren't interested in porting games to Apple, and Apple isn't interested in paying them to do it, so there you go.
...and that is how it will be in the future. Buy a switch
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These threads.
"what about the games? Put an A23 Supersonic in there and get some triple AAA titles "
Every. Single. Time.
"what about the games? Put an A23 Supersonic in there and get some triple AAA titles "
Every. Single. Time.
I’ve owned a Switch since 2017. Hardly play it unless a new Zelda drops. My PS5 gets most of my attention. That probably wouldn’t change much even if I got the next Apple TV with the console gaming feature now that I think of it.
What kinda games does your Sony TV have? I'll take your Apple TV if you really don't want it then. I never minded the Siri Remote, and actually like the previous one better than the new one.
Putting in an A18 with 8GB of RAM could be a great upgrade.
An even greater upgrade would be putting an M4 chip inside, for running even the most demanding games, but I completely understand that it would drive the price too high for what’s intended. So an A18 and 8GB of RAM is fine. Do it, and I’ll get one.
An even greater upgrade would be putting an M4 chip inside, for running even the most demanding games, but I completely understand that it would drive the price too high for what’s intended. So an A18 and 8GB of RAM is fine. Do it, and I’ll get one.
If the A18 is tied up with iPhone production a binned 8/8 M4 would be acceptable. That would also hardware decode AVI files. Possible could use the older base M3 that also supports that with a lots of products switched to M4's in the coming year. The reason I bring that up is least say the next ATV could support upscale as well as 8K Youtube with that hardware decoding. We had a number of years and it does seem that is a not to distance direction for the next gen of ATV.
Yes, that’s another possibility. A binned 8/8 M4 could be an excellent chip for this device.
And now that you say it, the A18 production could be a bit constrained by being used in: iPhone 16, 16 Pro, potentially on the iPad mini… and who knows if some other device.
The M4 on the other hand is going to be demanded by the Mac mini, iMac, the current iPad Pro, and maybe some lower end MBP (MBA is not expected until spring), so allocating the less perfect, binned M4s for a low demand device such as the Apple TV could be a good idea.
Using such power, the next Apple TV could well be a great home gaming center. If Apple wanted to encourage gaming, of course. Something like Apple Arcade Pro would be great, to focus on more AAA titles, at a more expensive price.
Once I graduated from college, I found that real life is so much better than pretending in games.What kinda games does your Sony TV have? I'll take your Apple TV if you really don't want it then. I never minded the Siri Remote, and actually like the previous one better than the new one.
An AppleTV 4K for $50 with an apple watch processor (i’m guessing the cheapest of the processors apple has), and the ability to only shareplay stuff from an iphone or Mac would be so good
I’ve had a ton of Apple products over the years but I’ve never even thought about an Apple TV. What does it offer compared to a smart TVs native apps etc?
Whats the point of a new AppleTV when little has changed since the AppleTV 4th gen (known as AppleTV HD)? tvOS functionality is hobbled. Viewed as a streaming device using apps only is what you would expect like any other streaming device. Apple, having a box connected, potentially a powerful unit, is a great opportunity for them which can do so much more, as I had expected when I pre-ordered it in 2015. For almost 9 years Apple wasted this opportunity.
Given the reletively low number of Apple TVs that are sold I don't think there will be a problem with A18 chips should Apple decide to go down that road.
I bought a 2nd gen Apple TV 4K (to replace my HD model) when I got my 4k TV a few years ago. Initially I used the built in apps because it was more convenient. The LG magic remote lets you use the direction buttons, voice control or Wii-mote like motion controls. The built-in iPlayer app also allowed access to the beta UHD content (Apple doesn't support MPEG Dash in TVOS which is what most live TV apps use). After a few weeks I tried it the Apple TV 4k and the difference in resonsiveness of the apps was unreal. YouTube would take a good 5-6 seconds to show the recommended videos on the built-in app, whilst it was pretty much instantaneous on the Apple TV. Navigation through all the apps was much faster on the Apple TV and the apps crashed far less often. Airplay is much more stable on Apple TV and I believe Apple streams higher bitrate content from AppleTV+ and iTunes store content to the AppleTV compared to TV built in apps.
These days, >90% of my TV usage is through the Apple TV. We hardly watch any live TV other than sport so pretty much everything comes through catch-up apps and streaming. Even the live sports come through the BBC, ITV or Channel 4 apps. The only time we switch back to the internal apps or tuner is for BBC UHD content or if we want to watch a channel that doesn't have an app (or doesn't have an app with live video). If it wasn't so expensive, I've buy an HDHomeRun tuner and the Channels app so I could use the AppleTV interface for all the UK Freeview channels.
100%. I'm all in for dumb TVs. I hate when I want to switch to a different input the LG tv is telling me that I must wait before the smart service finishes loading. what? what kind of smart mumbo jumbo is needed to switch from hdmi1 to hdmi2?
I am still using an old Apple TV HD, and it is magnitudes better than any smart tv. those stop getting sw updates and will be a security nightmare in 3-4 years. so why should I throw away a perfectly good display then, right?
My Dad’s friend told me that he needs a new Apple TV to replace his 2015 (HD version) so my plan is to sell him the 4K Apple TV that I currently use in my living room and I’m going to get the new one on Apple’s Black Friday sale ($25 Apple gift card) when Apple comes out with a new version
I usually upgrade the Apple TV that I use in my living room every time Apple comes out with a new version and I either sell the old one to a friend (or relative) or I use it on a TV that needs a new version of the Apple TV because I still have a few TVs that are using the 4th generation (HD version) from 2015
I usually upgrade the Apple TV that I use in my living room every time Apple comes out with a new version and I either sell the old one to a friend (or relative) or I use it on a TV that needs a new version of the Apple TV because I still have a few TVs that are using the 4th generation (HD version) from 2015
A number of reasons.
1) Tighter integration with my other apple devices. I can airplay photos from my phone to my Apple TV to show my friends, I can access Apple Music and podcasts, games via Apple Arcade, and there are niche third party apps from developers which you normally wouldn't find preloaded on a smart TV (for example, I am using the "Play" app, which is something like an RSS feed for YouTube videos). Heck, Zoom even recently released an app for the Apple TV, though I admittedly haven't had a chance to play around with it yet (and maybe I never will).
2) I like the idea of my smart TV not being connected to the internet ever and limiting the manufacturer's ability to track me.
3) Once you have 1 Apple TV in the house, it's pretty easy to set up subsequent ones. It just feels more convenient that way, and I don't really hate the tv remote design either.
This in itself justifies the price of adding an Apple TV set top box to my TV, plus it isn't really that pricey either.
Am I in the minority that the Apple TV 4K from 2022 more than suffices for 95% of people’s needs? An App Store, HDR 10+, Dolby Atmos, great processing power, Ethernet (if you got that model like I did), fast WiFi, Siri on the remote, shared audio with AirPods Pro’s, and overall fast response. I really don’t see a need to upgrade unless there’s something major that happens.
Just cause almost nobody has an 8k TV doesn’t mean it’s not worth it. With that logic we’d never get to 6k monitors or any advancements in tech.
Plus it’s absolutely worth it if you have recordings in 8k+
If you’ve seen true 8k content on an 8k TV it’s beautiful.