We will continue going around in circles on this issue. That is, until you can provide a reference. In the meantime, we might as well drop this topic because you can't provide a reference and no one here seems to know of a camcorder that can do this.
As I said, if you want to find the person, be my guest. I'm not about to hunt someone down to answer a question on a forum posed by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
BTW, there are other members on this board who work professionally in the field. I am sure they would chime in if they have a camcorder that can move full DV video from a MiniDV based camcorder to a computer via USB with no change in the compression, quality, FPS, etc.
Most of the members here are diehard Apple fans who will defend anything Apple does, and even support things Apple has created more than Apple itself does.
Oh and Wikipedia states that USB can be used. Thats good enough for me and any other sensible person.
Moving full DV video from a MiniDV based camcorder to a computer via FW is the norm. I do not know of a MiniDV based camcorder than can move full DV video from the camcorder to a computer via USB. I would love to see this as it would provide a needed solution for what I would like to do. So please, show me a model that does this. I will thank you if you can.
www.wikipedia.org search it yourself. Besides, I already posted bandwidth specs which you've conveniently ignored.
You are the one professing the above.
Show the links that prove your point.
www.google.com I don't have time to go over all of this again because you've decided to dig up posts that are weeks old now when the conversation was resolved and ended almost as long ago.
The example that you give is what I would call the stone age way of fixing computers.
TDM is much easier, simpler, faster, and provides many more options when fixing a Mac. I take my laptop over to my friends house to fix his computer. I merely connect the two via a simple FW cable. Start his up in TDM and now I can trouble shoot his system. So simple. So easy. Way more powerful that booting from CD.
Again, learn about TDM and what you can really do with it before merely dismissing it.
How does TDM offer more than an optical disc? As I said, optical discs can contain entire functioning operating systems that work just as if they are installed with complete drivers.
And it saves the hassle of having to use multiple computers and connecting them.
And like I said, very few people have Macs anyway. Of three people I know with a Mac now (most sold off their Mac and bought a PC or just bought a PC and their Mac goes unused), 2 of them have aluminum Macs. They bought Macs before I could show them the "truth" and I didn't find out until the return window had closed.
Besides, if something goes wrong with an OS that stops it from properly booting, then "fixing" that problem is the worst possible course of action to take. Recovering the files and doing a fresh install of the OS after a wipe is the best course of action. An optical disc + USB drive, or even just booting off of the USB drive itself, provides the best way to do things.
Please show me a specific camera that can do this. That is exporting the full DV video via USB. That I can purchase today.
Better yet, out of the 6 consumer DV cams on Amazon's top 100 video camera list (out of 12 total), how about you show me one that is actually worth buying over the flash and HDD based cameras.
As I said, Wikipedia states DV cams have done it. I myself have done it years ago. I'm not going to search for something that you can do yourself just because you refuse to accept fact.
If you are going to multi-quote, it would be greatly appreciated if would include the member's name whom you are quoting. TIA.
Sure, when the forum rules state I have to and the HTML code is made more easily available so I can do it while I type my post in TextEdit or WordPad.
of the term "firewire vs USB" finding this and this, each stating the technical advantage of firewire 400 over USB 2.0, and it's prevalence to date on many platforms.
Ones a store the other provides no information.
A quick search of my favourite camera shop finds not only a popular MiniDV video camera that uses firewire to transfer video, but a sidebar explaining a common breakdown of camera formats and transfer technologies used. Surprise, they consider MiniDV and Firewire to be current technologies. For fun, here is that sidebar:
Well, their little "sidebar" is completely inaccurate. Only basic editing from DVD and HDD based cameras? Why? Thats stupid to say that and it shows that they're just playing to the now more expensive Firewire market to make people buy more expensive and more profitable equipment.
Sure you could probably provide links to prove your point, but the fact is that firewire is still a current and common protocol.
Go to wikipedia.
Dumping the port in the MacBook (and potentially in the Mac Mini and iMac as well), compromises what would otherwise be a completely suitable piece of professional equipment. Using that as an argument to upgrade to a higher level of hardware is complete bunk. As a professional, is it not in my interest to reduce capital expenditures where possible?
As I said, Firewire is useless. Wikipedia, a more trusted source than a store trying to upsell you on my expensive equipment while lying about the capabilities of other equipment, clearly states that USB can and has been used for DV. I've used it myself.
And, I'll say again, even if standard definition video is sent uncompressed from the camera to the PC for editing, that only works out to be 20MB/sec, less than half of USB 2.0's proven sustained transfer rate and even slower than some of the bad chipsets out there from a few years ago.
Oh and its hilarious that the little sidebar there says that DVD cameras offer limited editing capabilities. You know why? Because HD MiniDV cams use the EXACT SAME COMPRESSION as DVDs do. So somehow DVD editing is more limited despite being in the same format as MiniDV HD?
