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The iPhone 6 has only 1GB of RAM while the iPhone 6s and the iPhone 7 both have 2GB. The iPhone 6s will still run smoothly for a few more years. It'll last about as long as the iPhone 7 does.
 
There are plenty of threads following a release that seem to fall in a general pattern with high level comments summarized below:
- The O/S slowed my phone down. Apple planned obsolescence at it's finest.
- The O/S performance has increased. Apple longevity and support at it's finest.
- Lots of animation delay and stutters.
- No animation delay and stutters.
- This version is a pos.
- This version is the best release since ios x.

A bit tongue in cheek, but no one can say for certain how an individual phone will react with a new version of the operating system and the comments can vary wildly in the same thread discussing the same thing.

You'll have to wait and see.
 
There are plenty of threads following a release that seem to fall in a general pattern with high level comments summarized below:
- The O/S slowed my phone down. Apple planned obsolescence at it's finest.
- The O/S performance has increased. Apple longevity and support at it's finest.
- Lots of animation delay and stutters.
- No animation delay and stutters.
- This version is a pos.
- This version is the best release since ios x.

A bit tongue in cheek, but no one can say for certain how an individual phone will react with a new version of the operating system and the comments can vary wildly in the same thread discussing the same thing.

You'll have to wait and see.

I think we can confirm the results with certainty because every iPhone released recently slowed down on new iOS versions
 
I can say with certainty it will .Just look at the iPhone 6.Its become a laggy POS phone since iOS 9

Can't see this at all on my side. But sure, if I'd measure things in milliseconds I might find it's gotten slower somewhere. In day to day life my 6 Plus does fine with the current OS.
 
I think we can confirm the results with certainty because every iPhone released recently slowed down on new iOS versions
I don't think it's for certain for everybody. Some might not have any change. Some might not have any "real" change, but believe there is a change. I hope people are being honest, but given the tens of millions of devices sold there are bound to be a lot of differing use cases.
 
I don't think it's for certain for everybody. Some might not have any change. Some might not have any "real" change, but believe there is a change. I hope people are being honest, but given the tens of millions of devices sold there are bound to be a lot of differing use cases.

True, for example I'm still on iPhone 6 and running 10.1.1 without any issues. Has it slowed my phone down, probably, in very few specific scenarios but does it hinder my day to day life, absolutely not. Therefore I can't be bothered.
 
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I think we can confirm the results with certainty because every iPhone released recently slowed down on new iOS versions
Is thst how some older phones are supposedly even better for some with iOS 10 compared to 9? There's certainly certainty in all of that, just not quite in what it is being implied in.
 
There are a number of things that I will (and have) criticized Apple for, but this supposed "planned obsolescence" isn't one of them. iOS devices receive software/OS updates much longer and generally have a longer functional lifespan than any Android device, and I personally don't notice the terrible decline in performance that people here refer to after just 1 or 2 major OS updates. I have a 6 still functioning perfectly on iOS 10. My mom has my old 5s which as far as I can tell is also still functioning fine, and it began on iOS 7.
 
I think IOS 11 will slow down the IPhone 5S and IPad Air 1. Both have A7 processor with just 1GB of RAM. iPad Air 1 will be the slowest device . It is always laggy since iOS 7.Imagine it with iOS 11.
[doublepost=1479661175][/doublepost]IOS 11 compatible devices ,any thoughts?
 
1) iOS 10 for the most part is smooth on the 6 (the new quick reply messages is a bit laggy)

2) Apple, nor any company now, does planned obsolescence. It's idiocy to believe that. As hardware advances in their technology, they design operating systems and features for that. Because of the rapid advancement and cheapening price of technology (one example - RAM over the last 5 years), products can have spec advancements far beyond those from half a decade ago, or even two years ago, and companies design things for their newest aka featured products. It's a bit of a tin foil hat looney to believe in planned obsolescence.

3) Seeing as the 6S has the same amount of RAM as the 4.7" iPhone 7... whatever OS fits the 7 will fit the 6S.

4) A $150 screen fix now shouldn't be comparable to a $700+ new phone purchase. Even if you only get one more year out of it, $150 for one year of an iPhone is a steal.
 
I don't believe in "planned obsolescence."  rolls out new features that the older devices simply can't handle. If  doesn't roll out new features, why would people want to upgrade their iPhones when their current iPhones do the exact same thing as the new one?  is a business and they need to make money by bringing in more business... which means coming out with new technology, which will then cause older iPhones to degrade because the older hardware can't support it.
 
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I don't think it's for certain for everybody. Some might not have any change. Some might not have any "real" change, but believe there is a change. I hope people are being honest, but given the tens of millions of devices sold there are bound to be a lot of differing use cases.
There is no question there most definitely has been a change.Its not a good one though.As to your claim that this is subjective,can you please explain why in this video,the consecutive ranking of iOS goes as 6,7,8,9,10 in clean order of decreasing performance?


Is thst how some older phones are supposedly even better for some with iOS 10 compared to 9? There's certainly certainty in all of that, just not quite in what it is being implied in.

See above video.NONE of the older devices perform as good as the version they shipped on.Do you deny this? On the contrary we have laptops with much less powerful hardware than the latest A series chipsets performing as good as they day they shipped
 
I don't believe in "planned obsolescence."  rolls out new features that the older devices simply can't handle. If  doesn't roll out new features, why would people want to upgrade their iPhones when their current iPhones do the exact same thing as the new one?  is a business and they need to make money by bringing in more business... which means coming out with new technology, which will then cause older iPhones to degrade because the older hardware can't support it.

I hear you, its a fine line and in either case the manufacturer will take the heat.
You update the os and make it available to older hardware that cannot run it as effective with limited processing power then people will complain that their old phone all of a sudden became slower.
Or you come out and say we are not going to let these older devices update to the new os because it will hinder their performance and the experience will become very laggy and miserable. Then people will complain that Apple abandoned their device with no more support or ios updates.
You cannot have both and in either instance there will be people upset. They want their old device to get all the new iOS updates and run nice and fast like the new hardware. Its just not going to happen and they have to draw the line somewhere.
 
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You cannot have both

You can.Just offer the ability to downgrade to the OS version the device shipped with.We have been able to do this with computers since the 90s.Why not phones?Even Google allows downgrade support on their Pixel and Nexus .The only logical reason is to trap the user into the new version .Also people tend to get curious about that big red mark on settings and accidentally update the phone when they dont want to unlike on Android where unless the users specifically wants to,the device wont upgrade or nudge you to that menu
 
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There is no question there most definitely has been a change.Its not a good one though.As to your claim that this is subjective,can you please explain why in this video,the consecutive ranking of iOS goes as 6,7,8,9,10 in clean order of decreasing performance?




See above video.NONE of the older devices perform as good as the version they shipped on.Do you deny this? On the contrary we have laptops with much less powerful hardware than the latest A series chipsets performing as good as they day they shipped
And yet in your own words iOS 10 has been better than iOS 9.
 
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You can.Just offer the ability to downgrade to the OS version the device shipped with.We have been able to do this with computers since the 90s.Why not phones?Even Google allows downgrade support on their Pixel and Nexus .The only logical reason is to trap the user into the new version .Also people tend to get curious about that big red mark on settings and accidentally update the phone when they dont want to unlike on Android where unless the users specifically wants to,the device wont upgrade or nudge you to that menu

Exactly, Im with you on that.
Ok you think your device's performance is very poor with iOS 9 for example have the ability to go back down to ios 7 or the ios version the device came with.
Sure some apps will not always be compatible with it and certain new features will not be available but let the user have that option and make the decision.
Dont restrict him with if you ever update or restore you're stuck and you can never go back down.
They're doing it mostly to avoid people going down to ios versions that could be jailbroken but I think they're doing a disservice to their consumers.
 
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There is no question there most definitely has been a change.Its not a good one though.As to your claim that this is subjective,can you please explain why in this video,the consecutive ranking of iOS goes as 6,7,8,9,10 in clean order of decreasing performance?


See above video.NONE of the older devices perform as good as the version they shipped on.Do you deny this? On the contrary we have laptops with much less powerful hardware than the latest A series chipsets performing as good as they day they shipped

Iphone 5 has been reported fine under ios 9, on these forums. iphone 5s has been reported fine under ios 9 and ios 10, and I have two in the house. Iphone 6 has been reported fine under ios 9 and ios 10. Who are you going to believe? It goes back to what I said before, use cases will vary and one size does not fit all, and this is not "proof" by any means. In addition, I'll give a little latitude to the later operating systems, due to the 100s+ of updates since ios 6.

You can.Just offer the ability to downgrade to the OS version the device shipped with.We have been able to do this with computers since the 90s.Why not phones?Even Google allows downgrade support on their Pixel and Nexus .The only logical reason is to trap the user into the new version .Also people tend to get curious about that big red mark on settings and accidentally update the phone when they dont want to unlike on Android where unless the users specifically wants to,the device wont upgrade or nudge you to that menu

This is apples policy. You decide if you want to keep investing in the apple ecosystem with this policy. You can show apple your displeasure by buying the competition. Pretty simple concept really.
 
iPhone 5 will end up well.I have an IPad 4 in my house and I can safely say that IOS 10 is way better than iOS 9.
When I installed iOS 9 on iPad 4 , the device became so slow and laggy. However , later IOS 9 updates improved the speed. IOS 10 performance is the same as iOS 9.3.5.However, sometimes it's a little more laggy than iOS 9.
IOS 11 on first iPad Air will be a nightmare
 
No. The iPhone 6S is equipped with a duel-core 1.85 CPU with 2GB of RAM. Unlike Android, iPhone's do not become obsolete after a year. It has been 3-4 years for a iPhone obsolete. The iPhone 4S was considered obsolete by Apple following the release of iOS 10. All models following the 4S come with 1,2 or 3 GB of RAM coupled with due core CPU's 1 GHz and above. The iPhone 5 and *maybe the 5S* will most likely be the candidate for 2017's iOS 11 obsolete. The iPhone 6S will not be obsolete until probably 2020's iOS version.
 
I think IOS 11 will be available for iPhone 5S and newer
iPad Air 1 and newer
iPad Mini 2 and newer
iPod touch 6 gen
iPhone 5,5c,IPad 4 will be dropped because its has 32 bit processor

IOS 12 will be the last major iOS update for A7 devices (Apple usually give a extra update for S models)
iOS 13 will be the last major iOS update for A8 devices(6,6Plus,IPod 6)
I predict
iOS 14
iPhone 6S and newer
iPad Air 2 and newer
iPad Mini 4 and newer
 
And yet in your own words iOS 10 has been better than iOS 9.

Thanks for the video.

Seems like iOS 10 isn't bad at all.

I think having 2 gigs of RAM (is that right?) on the iPhone 6 S will be useful for iOS 11.

I think I might change the screen because I will likely keep my 6S for awhile.

I need a headphone jack anyway.
[doublepost=1479679534][/doublepost]I'm thinking the planned obsolescence theory if true was not intentional. Not planned at all.

It's bc of the RAM. I got 2 GBs (is that right?) in my 6 S so I should be good.
 
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