Will, Jaden and Jada Smith Visit Apple Park for Environmental Discussion

[WaxedJacket]

If you are really concerned. Use a water filter and reusable containers. Better yet for the environment tap water. So there is no filter waste. If you are hard core and willing to risk the occasional parasite or disease. Get your water directly from streams, rivers, puddles, rain, &c.

Their environmentally friendly home.

Looks like Jaden's water reservoir is getting low!

 

[Naraxus]

Yay. More holier than thou celebrities lecturing me on environmental responsibilities....

 

[DeepIn2U]

Because he’s not an intellectual. He’s harming the environment with his product. This product isn’t new or beneficial. He’s wasting energy and adding to the problem of climate change. And the public will buy this crap!

I admit he’s trying to make the world better but there is a certain responsibility behind being an icon. He hasn’t done his due diligence of the true impact his product will make and instead sees a pay check. Unfortunately Tim Cook is furthering this shill by hosting his scammy water. He’d be better off selling the flavour packets! Do you know how much energy it takes to move water?

Explain in detail your view how he’s harming the environment and how he did not due his due diligence on his project and effort?

 

[Smearbrick]

It’s a good thing Jaden and Yada were there. Zero credibility without them in attendance.

 

[chilly willy]

It’s a good thing Jaden and Yada were there. Zero credibility without them in attendance.

Yep. Otherwise I would definitely question the science and planning behind this effort. How about the Smiths raise money to develop clean water system for Flint and other similarly situated communities? Help them build new infrastructure? ( that is part of Flint issue, with old pipes being a huge culprit thwarting getting clean water to the area, iirc.
Just seems like creating more issues that simply trying more issues trying to fix another. This, IMHO, is a lazy elitist way to address clean water concerns.
And Apple’s actions with making their products virtually impossible to upgrade or repair - unless you fork over $$$ to Apple - has very real consequences for environment and ewaste. I’d love Tim to host a town hall on that. Yes, Apple has an e recycling program of sorts , and tout efforts in manufacturing to be environmentally friendly, but it’s already a leader in creating disposable short-term use electronics. This feels like window dressing and celebrity fawning.

 

[EBone12355]

Did Will punch Tim Cook in the face and say "Welcome to Earth!"?

 

[MRrainer]

People should be able to drink tap water.
If you have to rely on bottled water, there‘s something wrong and you should ask your politicians what they’re doing to end that situation.

 

[techwhiz]

Bottled water is awful for the environment, no matter what they try to spin it as. If the water supply is poor, they should work on improving that instead of this insipid idea to generate more revenue for celebs.

I agree. Filter and treat water if possible.
My family and I no longer drink bottled sparkling or any other bottled water.
We all carry a glass or stainless water bottle from our double filtered water at home.
For sparkling water we have a Soda Stream.

 

[macduke]

Is this an ad for Amazon? Sure sounds like one.

Yeah I wish they were paying me. My filters are normally $45 which is why I mentioned Amazon, which sells them under their Amazon Basics brand for a third of the cost. I'm just trying to show a more environmentally friendly way to drink water that doesn't even require production of the bottles except for stainless steel one time and how people can do it economically as green stuff usually costs a lot more. But go ahead and enjoy your expensive Willy Water.

 

[GoodWheaties]

The ironic thing is that Apple pretends to be environmental, at least it touts how its products are, yet it doesn't seem so long ago that there was an article saying how Apple were the biggest customer of a particular airline, and by a long shot. Commercial airlines use Jet Fuel' and jet fuel is still leaded... Leaded fuel was phased out decades ago for its toxicity... Apple will have flown in a number of people for this event.. Ironic lol

Sorry to quell the rant, but jet fuel is basically just highly refined kerosene. No lead. Your rant is about aviation gas or “avgas” which only piston planes use.

Edit:Never mind it’s been discussed to death.

 

[Apple2GS]

Did they discuss the environmental impact of using private jets ?

 

[farewelwilliams]

That’s only if they couldn’t effectively convey their message without flying private. Any reason their message wouldn’t resonate if they flew commercial?

busy schedule. flying commercial adds 2-3 hours of extra travel time each way. so assuming they fly several times a week, they'll lose 10-20 hours of extra time each week. so if they need to carve out more time for their job, the first thing they'll spend less time on is environmental issues.

this is very similar to a lot of people giving Elon Musk flak for flying private. sure, he pollutes the air each time he flies, but each hour wasted on flying commercial means potentially an extra hour of delay in bringing environmentally friendly products to market for millions of people to buy. a small up front cost to the environment for big long term improvements to the environment globally.

 

[tennisproha]

Also, organic farming is usually worse for the environment than traditional farming and their claim that alkaline water has health benefits is pure quackery. As soon as it hits the acid in your stomach, it’s gone. The body strictly maintains blood pH through buffering. If anything we consumed could actually change blood pH, we would die. So much wrong here

This is interesting to me. I thought fruits and vegetables were good for your because they were alkaline? Can you eleborate on this or have any sources/links you can share?

 

[Marekul]

What does that even mean? I work as a graphics operator/designer for live events. Almost all my work involves flying somewhere. I fly about 10 trips per year and the rest of the time I work out of my house. I drive a 99 Plymouth Neon and THIS YEAR I will finally hit 100,000 miles on the odometer. I maybe buy 10 gallons of gas a MONTH. I also have solar panels for my electricity. Compare that to the average person who drives every day to a regular job and burns WAY more fossil fuel than I. It’s the totality of how a person lives, not just one action you try to condemn them for.

They can fly around in private jets all day long I couldn’t care less.
I don’t believe in man made global warming being an issue. Did you know that the worst greenhouse gas is h2o vapor?

You know when some hippie living in a dent eating leftovers tells me to cut down on consumption to save the world I can have a debate with him. But a bunch of billionaires, traveling in private planes driving around in „eco friendly“ (Honk honk) Tesla Sport Cars telling everyone else they need to consume less... come on...

Also with your ten plane trips a year alone you have probably surpassed the livetime eco footprint of 10 low iincome citizens of India.
How important is the climate really to you? Seems like you don’t really care that much when it comes saving on your end....
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busy schedule. flying commercial adds 2-3 hours of extra travel time each way. so assuming they fly several times a week, they'll lose 10-20 hours of extra time each week. so if they need to carve out more time for their job, the first thing they'll spend less time on is environmental issues.

this is very similar to a lot of people giving Elon Musk flak for flying private. sure, he pollutes the air each time he flies, but each hour wasted on flying commercial means potentially an extra hour of delay in bringing environmentally friendly products to market for millions of people to buy. a small up front cost to the environment for big long term improvements to the environment globally.

This sounds like the Catholic Church where the elite lives in Vatican in golden palaces while preacheding modesty and giving to the poor.
Oh of course without 10 servant, a palanquin and a palace - how could the enlightened and chosen ones preach their knowledge the the peasants

Calling Elon Musks luxury vehicles eco friendly ... Really things are upside down these days....
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Did they discuss the environmental impact of using private jets ?

Yeah. Nothing to worry, they came to the conclusion that it’s not that bad. With latest „don’t get children to safe the environment“-shtick private jet damage will be offset ten fold and warming can be held in check.

 

[FairTeam]

How did Will Smith Family just walk into Apple Park, and started talking with Tim Cook, corporate, and all other people there? Step by step? They have zero experiences in tech.

 

[RickInHouston]

This is Apple jumping the shark.

 

[femike]

More fluff from the kings of fluff. Apple. But in this case it’s disgustingly hypocritical rubbish. Selling water in containers that have to be shipped over many miles is the height of human arrogance, greed and downright stupidity. Which perfectly sums up Apple under Cook and Co.
Hey Timmy, how about a rechargeable mouse and track pad instead of filling up the planet with dead AA batteries.
No, all Tim and his mates want to do is hob nob with the Hollywood elite (sic)

I disagree about AA battery comment.
Re-chargeable AA batteries for keyboard and mouse are much environmentally friendly than non-replaceable Li-ion batt's. Apple used to used to sell there own Ni-MH batt's and charger at a reasonable cost. I have the same Apple keyboard and mouse, and I'm still using the same AA batt's and charger for 6 years for all.

But now, Apple products are designed to be replaced with new products every few years.
Tim Cook is changing Apple for the worse. This is all PR BS. No substance whatsoever.

 

[avatar77]

The ironic thing is that Apple pretends to be environmental, at least it touts how its products are, yet it doesn't seem so long ago that there was an article saying how Apple were the biggest customer of a particular airline, and by a long shot. Commercial airlines use Jet Fuel' and jet fuel is still leaded... Leaded fuel was phased out decades ago for its toxicity... Apple will have flown in a number of people for this event.. Ironic lol

Jet fuel does not contain lead.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lead-in-aviation-fuel/

 

[Smearbrick]

Did Will punch Tim Cook in the face and say "Welcome to Earth!"?

It was more like, “Welcome to Earf.”

 

[code-m]

"Environmental Discussion" at Apple park! please don't make me laugh! Is like Al Capone talking about honesty, Mc Donald that talks about low calory diet and a prostitute that talks about the virtuosity of chastity!
If you sell something more repairable and / or upgradable, you serve the environment better, much better. Nobody will ever convince me that when you need more RAM for your laptop is more ecological to upgrade the entire laptop instead of adding a new module of RAM, whatever "ecological" process you use.
Nobody will ever convince me that flooding the market with millions of devices every year is "ecological" expecially when they want us to change the smartphone every year!
Don't get me wrong, the companies are only doing their job that is MAKING MONEY.
The problem is that companies (and I'm not talking about apple only) talk about "ecology" when they should talk only about their products and not give us MORAL LESSONS. This is a conflict of interests that is easy to understand and they, for sure, understend as well. Only Independent institutions should talk about ecology and push the government to make or change rules for the interest of collectivity .
I don't hate Apple, I love Apple products, but I hate hypocricy. I miss a lot Steve Job that used to talk mainly about products and innovation and I believe he was more authentic compared to "Tim Apple" because he was a real CEO, not a politician.

The entire concept of bottling, shipping, storing, selling, purchasing and consuming bottled water is ridicules. May it be in a glass, metal, cardboard or plastic (bio/petroleum). Municipal water is as good if not better compared to bottled, it costs less and environmentally friendly.

One might say, however what about clean water for consumption during a disaster relief effort, guess what a water purifier, gravity driven water systems are available. This is another form of problem that is marketed as a solution to a problem that should never have existed.

If people stopped consuming bottled water, we would not need any of these pusedo-solutions. In the end the is more waste and environmentally damaging.

I feel Apple should offer computers to ship with no RAM or SSD and allow the user the choice for Apple to do it or user installable. What is the point of purchasing the cheap base RAM/SSD model only to toss it out for user upgradable option.

Green my rear.

 

[farewelwilliams]

This sounds like the Catholic Church where the elite lives in Vatican in golden palaces while preacheding modesty and giving to the poor.
Oh of course without 10 servant, a palanquin and a palace - how could the enlightened and chosen ones preach their knowledge the the peasants

Calling Elon Musks luxury vehicles eco friendly ... Really things are upside down these days...

It's nothing like that. Example: you produce cumulatively 100 tons of CO2 in your life, but you reduce 101 tons by planting trees. You've effectively had a net reduction of 1 ton of CO2 in your life. It's not much, but it's a positive for the environment. There's nothing wrong with causing 100000000000000 tons of CO2 when you're effectively reducing it by 3 times that in the long run. Simple math.

Tesla vehicles are far more eco friendly than, say, the Toyota Corolla. This is factoring in the emissions from production of the battery pack, car assembly, and charge coming from electric utility companies' reliance on nonrenewable energy sources. Not to mention the Gigafactory will be 100% powered by renewables by the end of this year, and utility companies are moving to solar in the next couple of decades. These are facts, but somehow you missed them.

The real "upside down" thing here is that people don't read and are quick to judge without all of the facts.

 

[Marekul]

It's nothing like that. Example: you produce cumulatively 100 tons of CO2 in your life, but you reduce 101 tons by planting trees. You've effectively had a net reduction of 1 ton of CO2 in your life. It's not much, but it's a positive for the environment. There's nothing wrong with causing 100000000000000 tons of CO2 when you're effectively reducing it by 3 times that in the long run. Simple math.

Tesla vehicles are far more eco friendly than, say, the Toyota Corolla. This is factoring in the emissions from production of the battery pack, car assembly, and charge coming from electric utility companies' reliance on nonrenewable energy sources. Not to mention the Gigafactory will be 100% powered by renewables by the end of this year, and utility companies are moving to solar in the next couple of decades. These are facts, but somehow you missed them.

The real "upside down" thing here is that people don't read and are quick to judge without all of the facts.

But you can not reduce co2 by planting trees. Plants are co2 neutral meaning when you burn them or let them rot they realease All the co2 back into the Atmosphäre...

And a brand new luxury car like a Tesla wil never be was eco friendly as a 1999 used corola. production of A new Tesla, with all the high tech Gear - you can drive a decade with the used car to come close. And the Tesla will never catch up. It doesn’t run on unicorn farts it needs electric power that is generated somewhere and has environmental impact like burning gas. Often even worse.

 

[retta283]

I personally don't like to buy bottled water of any kind. If possible you should collect your own water from Springs and use re-usable containers. Also look into filters for your fridge/sink if you cannot acquire spring water.

 

[farewelwilliams]

But you can not reduce co2 by planting trees. Plant safe co2 neutral meaning when you burn them or let them rot they realease All the co2 back into the Atmosphäre...

And a brand new luxury sports car like a Tesla is never eco friendly

You need to read up on the carbon cycle.
When you drive a car, you're increasing the CO2 from the ground into the air which increases overall CO2 concentration in the atmosphere. We can't put that CO2 back into the ground, but we can put CO2 into plants by letting them absorb it. If one tree or plant dies, a new tree/plant should be alive to absorb any CO2 released from that dead tree. The more trees that are "alive" at any given moment, the less CO2 concentration in the air, the less bad effects it'll have on the Earth.

A Tesla built on 100% renewable energy (this year) that is powered by 100% solar (in the next decade or so) is extremely eco friendly. Also Tesla is working towards a closed loop recycling of all materials. Once that happens, it's actually 100% eco friendly and will have no negative impact on Earth. A gas car will never be this eco friendly.

Feel free to reply, but I won't read whatever you write next. You just keep saying Tesla isn't eco-friendly without any facts. Like a broken record. So it sounds like you don't want to listen to reason.

 

[itsamacthing]

You know what's even more environmentally friendly and costs less? Get a coconut shell carbon water filter that lasts for months and fill up a stainless steel double walled vacuum sealed bottle. Stays cold all day and tastes great. I've been doing this since 2013. The filters for my fridge are about $15 on Amazon and last about 4-6 months. The bottle is a $30 Thermos with flip top lid. My wife and kids all have one and we bring them everywhere.

And what is even more environmentally friendly, USB-C everything