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With that logic, are you saying that Apple should get a cut from all records that were produced with Logic Pro? From all movies produced in FCP? Should Adobe get a cut from all sales boosted by marketing made in CS5? Should Linus Thorvalds get a cut from all e-comerce on sites powered by Linux servers?
It doesn't work like that, you get your license, then you're even with the sw maker until the license runs out.

Dude, I was just over simplifying. There are many was to paid.
 
Under Apple's rules, developers aren't allowed to charge more for in-app purchases. They must charge the same as they do on their web site or on other platforms. Developers are required to either keep their prices as they are (which means taking a loss for some businesses like Kindle or Pandora), or raise prices for all of their customers.

Now they can charge more, but they can't provide a way to buy outside the app
 
No, the brick and mortar analogy is not correct.

If B&N distributes Ikea catalogs, it owes a cut from anything bought through this catalog?

If you have a public phone on your store, do you owe a cut from any thing bought through this phone?

Now you're just going a bit nuts. Obviously there are going to be different deals for different scenarios. But likening it to the brick & mortar store is good, if rough example - you wanna sell your stuff in my store, I get a piece of the action. Simple.
 
Let the user decide!

if user user wants the convenience of in app-purchase they can pay 30%( which the provider will add on, to cover the Apple 30% charge ) extra.

However, if they wish to save 30% then let them click out to the provider's website and buy them from there!

You're not allowed to point out that there is an extra cost for buying from the app.
 
Now you're just going a bit nuts. Obviously there are going to be different deals for different scenarios. But likening it to the brick & mortar store is good, if rough example - you wanna sell your stuff in my store, I get a piece of the action. Simple.

Amazon IS NOT SELLING anything on Apple Store.
 
Just imagine if Microsoft decided that no software could ever be installed on a Windows PC unless it comes from the Windows Software Store. Now imagine that Microsoft decided they deserved 30% of all the revenue from the Windows Software Store. Not only that, but if users could make additional purchases from within that software, Microsoft is going to take a 30% cut of that too.

You don't think that would draw close scrutiny from antitrust regulators?

Remember, Microsoft got busted 10 years ago for antitrust violations because they bundled Internet Explorer into the Windows OS. At that time, you could still install alternative web browsers if you wanted, and you could have used a Mac or Linux box instead. It didn't matter. The DOJ and EU came down hard on Microsoft.

I love my iPhone... I really do... but the way things are going, Apple is asking for a DOJ/EU beat down. It may or may not be over this specific issue, but rest assured it's coming.
 
Amazon doesn't prevent buying books from Kindle browser or tries to get a cut from them

I hate to say this, but you are hopeless. You keep missing the point. These are just other examples of similar (NOT exactly the same) scenarios. This is a new frontier with app stores, and they look to past ways of doing business. It's natural. Stop getting hung up on random junk. You keep misinterpreting and missing the point. Geesh!
 
Apple would be setting itself up for antitrust trouble if they do not allow kindle. If not the US then the EU. Beside apple would be hurt a lot more than amazon if they block the kindle app

I'm not sure that's true. It seems Kindle is actually more restrictive than Apple; not only do they not allow in-app purchase of books from other than Amazon, but they don't allow you to even download books purchased elsewhere.
 
True, video game systems are another example of this. The difference is that video game systems aren't marketed as being computers. The iPad is very heavily marketed as being a general computing platform. Earlier mobile phones which ran Java games also weren't marketed as general computing platforms.

The Kindle isn't like iOS. You can load mobipocket books from any source onto the Kindle, not just Kindle Store books.

I'm not sure what marketing has to do with this issue, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find any Apple marketing that refers to the iPad as a computer, let alone a general purpose computer.

Amazon doesn't prevent buying books from Kindle browser or tries to get a cut from them

Apple "doesn't prevent buying books from [Safari] browser or tries to get a cut from them."
 
I've sat on this for a little while, but given the looming deadline I think it's fine now.

The Kindle App has ALWAYS violated the rules of the App Store:

"Apps or metadata that mentions the name of any other mobile platform will be rejected"


From the description of the App on the App Store:

"You can also read your Kindle books on your Kindle, Kindle 3G, Kindle DX, PC, Mac, BlackBerry, Android-based device, and Windows Phone 7-based device."

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/kindle/id302584613?mt=8#

Obviously this is a pretty minor violation and could easily be corrected by Amazon, but other, smaller Apps have been rejected from the store because they mentioned other platforms.
 
I hate to say this, but you are hopeless. You keep missing the point. These are just other examples of similar (NOT exactly the same) scenarios. This is a new frontier with app stores, and they look to past ways of doing business. It's natural. Stop getting hung up on random junk. You keep misinterpreting and missing the point. Geesh!

The third time I ask you this. Can you explain me why Amazon/Netflix/B&N/Spotify owes anything to Apple when there is a transaction from Safari Browser?
 
I'm not sure that's true. It seems Kindle is actually more restrictive than Apple; not only do they not allow in-app purchase of books from other than Amazon, but they don't allow you to even download books purchased elsewhere.

Yes they do.

I have bought books for my Kindle from companies other than Amazon.

You can even download 3rd party books through the Kindle's web browser (free or paid) - including over the 3G connection that you don't pay for.
 
All this does is prove what a bunch of [expletives] run Apple. Their GREED (trying for FORCE other companies to pay them 30% of the take for doing NOTHING) is beyond the pale despicable. I consider Steve Jobs and company total SCUM at this point. Products should be sold on MERIT not pushy low-down 'protection money' tactics. But competition is the last thing Apple wants and they prove it time and time again by doing everything in their power to not compete or to compete as little as possible in any given situation (they are clearly afraid others can do it better and especially cheaper). I have no respect for Steve Jobs or Apple as a whole when it comes to morality.
 
I'm not sure that's true. It seems Kindle is actually more restrictive than Apple; not only do they not allow in-app purchase of books from other than Amazon, but they don't allow you to even download books purchased elsewhere.

Well, Kindle doesn't have in app purchase and yes you can sideload books purchased elsewhere
 
Apple should just have made commercials showing the iPad and not any of the third party apps available? That really would have sold lots of iPads... Apple isn't stupid...

Apple wasn't gracious and giving them free commercials.

You missed the point. I wasn't saying Apple was gracious. I was pointing out that the relationship has a very strong give and take. Apple and devs support each other. Someone else was saying it was all about the devs. Please read before you speak.
 
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