smokinjoe2122
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Probably for the best. I almost feel the same with iOS and iPadOS. Both don't seem polished anymore until the .1 versions
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Will macOS Sonoma Be Released in September This Year?
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no I dont think it will be released this side of September. I have had a few bluetooth connection problems. Where my keyboard, trackpad and mouse (all apple devices) disconnect and reconnect. I also had the issue the other day where I woke the studio up and couldn't use any bluetooth devices! I had to hard wire the trackpad and keyboard just so that I could restart my Mac. The other thing as well as I have noticed is that it takes a while for the keyboard to connect when you first start up and pop your password in for the Mac to boot. I thought all of that had been sorted in Ventura's latest update? Not really good.
Nicole1980
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Exactly. I pine for the good old days when a new Mac OS came out every couple of years it actually MEANT something. Now they release a new OS not because it's a big improvement, but because that's what the stupid schedule mandates.
The browsing profiles and webapps will let me ditch the other browsers and Nativefier apps I keep around to separate my work, banking, and personal browsing. Getting rid of nativefier also means I can ditch npm and nodejs. I, for one, have been looking forward to this release for the Safari improvements.
fwmireault
macrumors 68020
I am on the beta, and I have to say that web apps work surprisingly well! Nothing groundbreaking - it's basically just a web browser experience, but to have it in your dock and to manage notifications separately makes them quite useful. In a sense, I would prefer apps such as Youtube to release a native macOS app or to at least allow their iPad apps on macOS, but this give us an option to get as close to a Mac app.
mrfunnypenguin
macrumors regular
Even if they do I probably will not do the update until Spring 2024. Just because Ventura has been pretty bad (I wish I could go back to Monterey), so I want to know if Sonoma is possibly worse.
Still grinds my gears that the only iMacs supported by Sonoma are max age of 4 years. Kind of up the creek, if you bought your iMac toward the tail end of 2018 or early 2019. Slap in the face to those customers.
BornAgainMac
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Nicole1980
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On another note, it would be nice if they had a toggle to COMPLETELY disable update notifications. As a user who likes to stay on a certain OS for 2-3 before 'maybe' updating, I get really annoyed with the almost daily reminders that there's a new OS available. Every trick to disable that notification I've ever tried doesn't work.
jayducharme
macrumors 601
I wonder if the pandemic had any effect on the timing of the last three OS releases, with everyone working from home. Maybe now they'll return to a September release.
No one will miss a thing if they release it next sept.
tekboi
macrumors 6502a
I’m looking forward to it and hope it officially releases this month. I like the art style of MacOS this year. It reminds me a bit of the Windows XP backdrop.
GaryMumford
macrumors 6502
Why? If your going to wait for all the bugs to be fixed, your going to be waiting forever! They had still not fixed all the bugs in Ventura, Monterey, Big Sur…..
Black Magic
macrumors 68030
The release schedule allows us to get new features quicker versus waiting 3 years for a feature that probably will be outdated at release. Not sure why folks are complaining about FREE YEARLY OS UPGRADES because they don't get blown away each release? People are become too spoiled and ungrateful!
yes, i don't like these unhideable notification bubbles either.
thankfully on macOS, the system settings icon is not in the Dock, i'm quite ok with it...
on iOS though, with the settings icon within the Dock, my OCD .is giving me convulsions... 😕
There's also the issue that the annual cycle of new major releases typically results in a worse experience for end users. Rather than working on stabilizing a release before moving to the next, they rollout a new release for the sake of rolling out a new release. In the enterprise environment, users are constantly in a state of "just out of beta" for 1/3 of the year, starting to stabilize for 1/3 of the year, pretty stable for 1/3 of the year, and then back to "just out of beta", rinse and repeat. Being "just out of beta" for 1/3 of the year, followed by a full 1 and 2/3s years of starting to stabilize/pretty stable would go a long way to a happier user base in enterprise, and I surmise perhaps even in the consumer realm, if it meant their devices could be considered supported for a longer period of time.
Realityck
macrumors G5
Might be the case that AS macOS evolution has finally reached that point in overall stability, that when it has most of the new features added and proofed out its ready to ship rather then like the last so many years where so many dual platform features added or going native was challenging.
AS platform first arrived on Big Safari -> Monterey -> Ventura -> now Sonoma.
Catalina the OS before Big Safari has a lot of Kernal panics for awhile, raises the question if it was at that time being tested to work on ARM SoC's in the future. The Mac mini DTK (A12X) arrived June 22, 2020.
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i personally don't see quicker, just for the sake of it, as a benefit at all, if it means that the OS is not stable at all, with all kinds of sketchy behaviors.
it also doesn't necessarily mean that you'd have to wait for three years for new features, but postponing a release to something equivalent to what we get with a .3 or .4 release would be highly preferable, at a non-fixed pace between 12-18 months when it feels "ready", at least as far as i'm concerned.
those who urgently need such features earlier, are free to join the beta plans
azentropy
macrumors 601
I think it will be a telling sign if they are planning on releasing more Macs this year. A September release probably means it is more likely they will not. If they don't release in September I think that increases the odds of new Macs this year in which they would release it at the same time.
Shirasaki
macrumors P6
Compared to releasing underwhelming new features vs fixing existing stuff, maybe introducing new stuff makes shareholder meeting easier, while the entire OS is in perpetual beta regardless.
I can't wait for the Apple Car. Every 4-5 years, your current model will be abandoned by Apple, and if you want support/service, you will need to buy a new one.