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Why do you think the next iPad Pro 9.7" in 2017 would still have only 2GB of RAM ? I mean what makes you think that ? What logic ?

Absolutely no one knows what the new iPad Pro will bring in the 9.7 version, they're all just guesses.
 
Probably not as many as you'd think, outside of those of us here at least. The majority of the buying public don't frequent forums like these and if they're anything like the normal iPad consumers I know, they couldn't tell you if it had 2GB of RAM or a serving of blue blancmange inside.

I have 1st gen Air and I have not upgraded primarily because of the price point. $599 is too high for the entry model as is IMO. If it had 4GB of RAM AND the screen was a higher resolution than the standard 2048x1536, I would have already jumped all in on it. I look for Apple to lower the cost by $100 come this October. Then I may buy.
 
IPad 2 or Air 2? If your able to make do with an iPad 2 and 512MB of RAM, even the current 9.7 model with 2GB is a massive upgrade.

I'm not interested in paying a lot of money for 9.7 inch pro that might not have the longevity that my iPad 2 has had. iOS devices that last the longest are the ones that have major improvement in both RAM, CPU and GPU. The iPad 2 and iPad Air 2 (if bough when first released) are great examples of such longevity models. Given I will want my next iPad to last me at least as long as my iPad 2 has (5 years and counting), I don't want to be stuck with 2GB of ram in 2020, would much rather have 4GB of ram.
 
I'm not interested in paying a lot of money for 9.7 inch pro that might not have the longevity that my iPad 2 has had. iOS devices that last the longest are the ones that have major improvement in both RAM, CPU and GPU. The iPad 2 and iPad Air 2 (if bough when first released) are great examples of such longevity models. Given I will want my next iPad to last me at least as long as my iPad 2 has (5 years and counting), I don't want to be stuck with 2GB of ram in 2020, would much rather have 4GB of ram.

Part of the ipad2 longevity has to do with who they sold it to and less about the hardware specs, which aren't particularly stellar by any measure.

Apple pushed the ipad2 to a number of school systems/municipalities and to businesses and part of that push was their promise of supporting the iOS for 5 years.
 
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Part of the ipad2 longevity has to do with who they sold it to and less about the hardware specs, which aren't particularly stellar by any measure.

Apple pushed the ipad2 to a number of school systems/municipalities and to businesses and part of that push was their promise of supporting the iOS for 5 years.

My wife finally upgraded from an iPad 2 this December, courtesy of a Christmas gift, but it was a pass me down that I had used to for about 2 years. I agree that it was never a well spec'ed machine, but it did have some staying power, 512MB of RAM aside :)
 
Part of the ipad2 longevity has to do with who they sold it to and less about the hardware specs, which aren't particularly stellar by any measure.

Apple pushed the ipad2 to a number of school systems/municipalities and to businesses and part of that push was their promise of supporting the iOS for 5 years.

There is no way that if the iPad 2 had continued with the 256MB of ram that the iPad 1 had, that it would have survived as long as it did.

The iPad 2 had a clear massive improvement on GPU, CPU and RAM over the iPad 1. iOS device longevity is strange, but its fairly clear, the better the specs, the better your change of getting a long time out of your device.
 
There is no way that if the iPad 2 had continued with the 256MB of ram that the iPad 1 had, that it would have survived as long as it did.

The iPad 2 had a clear massive improvement on GPU, CPU and RAM over the iPad 1. iOS device longevity is strange, but its fairly clear, the better the specs, the better your change of getting a long time out of your device.

I the Mac only days, it was tied to your GPU. In the iOS days, it's tied to RAM. Apple is soooo reluctant to upgrade RAM, that any RAM increase resets the baseline. THAT is the device to get, unless it's a iPad 3 with basically gimmicks to release the updated screen.
 
I the Mac only days, it was tied to your GPU. In the iOS days, it's tied to RAM. Apple is soooo reluctant to upgrade RAM, that any RAM increase resets the baseline. THAT is the device to get, unless it's a iPad 3 with basically gimmicks to release the updated screen.

For me, any device that has the trifecta of RAM, GPU and CPU is the one to get. The iPad 3 and the ram, but the GPU and CPU were barely better than the iPad 2 once you factored in the retina display.
 
There is no way that if the iPad 2 had continued with the 256MB of ram that the iPad 1 had, that it would have survived as long as it did.

The iPad 2 had a clear massive improvement on GPU, CPU and RAM over the iPad 1. iOS device longevity is strange, but its fairly clear, the better the specs, the better your change of getting a long time out of your device.

That would be true just from the standpoint that IOS has grown to around 300-400MB of RAM now, I believe? They had to increase beyond 256MB, just to make room for the OS. That said, the iPP 9.7 w/ 2GB is no lame duck, like the iPad 3. That was a dud out of the gate.
 
That would be true just from the standpoint that IOS has grown to around 300-400MB of RAM now, I believe? They had to increase beyond 256MB, just to make room for the OS. That said, the iPP 9.7 w/ 2GB is no lame duck, like the iPad 3 that was a dud out of the gate.

The iPad Pro is not a bad device, but when I know Apple did not include the best specs they could have (Easily) included, it is hard to justify paying the inflated price (My iPad 2 cost $700 ish, vs $1350 for the equivalent Pro 9.7). 2GB of ram was great in 2014, and is good now, but in 5 years, will be a major disadvantage compared to the big Pro with 4GB of ram.
 
Only if you are not bothered about how the current 9.7" iPad Pro will stand and perform 2-3 years down the years. Maybe for current state and usage 2GB RAM would be enough ! How about 2-3 years down the line ?

You're also assuming 4GB will be enough 2-3 years down the line.....
[doublepost=1471339513][/doublepost]Anyone seen/worked out how much of that extra 2GB of RAM on the 12.9 gets eaten up having to run a display with 2,449,408 more pixels (5,595,136 vs. 3,145,728) ?
 
What do you mean?

The original comment questioned if 2GB would be enough in 2-3 years time. This implied you would need 4GB in the future. You said you'd rather have 4GB, regardless of whether you actually need it or not.

Yes, I'm being pedantic. But there's a difference between want and need.
 
The original comment questioned if 2GB would be enough in 2-3 years time. This implied you would need 4GB in the future. You said you'd rather have 4GB, regardless of whether you actually need it or not.

Yes, I'm being pedantic. But there's a difference between want and need.

Well a need of mine is for my next iPad to last as long as possible and at least last as long as my iPad 2 (nearly 5.5 years and counting). Given the rate that ram usage has gone up it is highly likely I will need 4GB of ram in 5 years time.
 
Given the rate that ram usage has gone up it is highly likely I will need 4GB of ram in 5 years time.

You may not need it, but there would be APP's that would only work on 4GB RAM what will you do then ?
 
Anyone seen/worked out how much of that extra 2GB of RAM on the 12.9 gets eaten up having to run a display with 2,449,408 more pixels (5,595,136 vs. 3,145,728) ?

All I can say is that my 12.9 keeps more Safari tabs open and more apps open in the background than my Air2.

One source you could check is Anandtech's reviews. They go into a lot of technical details, so maybe they have stuff on RAM usage.
 
You may not need it, but there would be APP's that would only work on 4GB RAM what will you do then ?

That's unlikely I think. Where are the apps that only support 2Gb now? 2Gb being minimum in 5 years from now I could believe.

The real crux of this thing is that iOS developers need to address a challenge PC and Mac developers have had for a long time more effectively; a mix of specifications. It's mostly games and a few creative apps that have bothered to do it now but really adding or scaling more features where the hardware is available that's required here.
 
If the rumors are true, Apple is moving to a 10.5" Pro next year. I'd guess they'd likely move to 4gb at that point.
 
All I can say is that my 12.9 keeps more Safari tabs open and more apps open in the background than my Air2.

One source you could check is Anandtech's reviews. They go into a lot of technical details, so maybe they have stuff on RAM usage.

And that's to be expected with the additional RAM, but it's not a necessity.

On a side note, I'm beginning to think I'm the only person on the planet with no requirement to have hundreds of safari tabs open at once.
 
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