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Every year (or even every day), there will be someone with a 3 year old iPhone or older looking for an upgrade. Every consumer are on their own upgrade schedule. There are still a lot of people on iPhone 6s, 7, 8, and X out there.
Ok… Are you further proving my point? Again why Apple should get away from the yearly upgrade model they’re in. Waiting for when the features they’re ready to implement are ready, instead of small upgrades.
 
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The hell with hardware. Apple needs massive work on software. It seems there’s more ROI with putting resources into selling new slightly improved phones than there is to spending resources on a software overhaul.
 
Ok… Are you further proving my point? Again why Apple should get away from the yearly upgrade model they’re in. Waiting for when the features they’re ready to implement are ready, instead of small upgrades.

For context, there are over a billion iphone users every year, and Apple still sells over 200 million iPhones a year.

The point is precisely that for the people upgrading from a years-old iphone, all those incremental annual upgrades add up to quite a substantial improvement over time. This also allows Apple to spread out the number of upgraders over a couple of years, rather than have everyone clamouring to get a new device at the same time.

It’s simply not sustainable for Apple to release an iphone every year (or every other year) with enough “must-have” features that would make every iphone user run out and upgrade. They can’t even make that many iPhones every year anyways.
 
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Not being rude, but to you and everyone else that repeatedly says this.... GOOGLE IT.

The mini was a huge flop and failed to sell its initial production run, had production halted, and inventory that is STILL sitting around. There are back end deals with carriers for promotions on the model to get them off shelves.
There were almost no promotions for the mini. When I went to get mine the mini was full price but a 12 pro was free.
A lot more goes into profitability than net margin. Marketing expenses,
Of which there was almost none.
product sitting on a shelves are dollars sitting on shelves,
The mini was hidden in the back of stores and websites.
discounts and promotions reduce net margins, etc.
Again, it wasn't discounted.
Apple never discounts direct from their stores or websites, but they do discount through carriers and third parties. Costco has had massive rebates on the mini... funded by Apple.
Costco is not a major distributor of iPhones. But they also had Pro models heavily discounted, which represent even larger discounts than the mini.
No, it won't bleed them dry, but it's not making their coffers larger either.
That's because it wasn't sold at a loss. :rolleyes:
There is also volume purchase rates to factor in. Apples commits to buying X number of displays in that size to lock in a price.... when they have to halt production and don't buy that committed quantity, they pay more.

Countless articles out there citing all these factors.
There are also countless articles claiming Amber Heard was abused. Don't believe everything you read.
The mini needs to be charged all the time and I home I have a charger but I don’t like to take a powerbank when I leave my house ;)
No, it doesn't. I have to assume you don't have one because I use my 12 mini a lot and get two days per charge.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Har. You haul your phone with a uhaul. If I can feel it in my pocket it's too big and too heavy.
 
More than likely. Yes… With shutdowns, people working from home, etc. iOS 16 and the iPhone lineup is going to be less ambitious.. Same with the Apple Watch from last year.
 
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Ok… Are you further proving my point? Again why Apple should get away from the yearly upgrade model they’re in. Waiting for when the features they’re ready to implement are ready, instead of small upgrades.
On the contrary. Apple needs to come out with a new iPhone at least every year to capture those upgrades yoy. iPhone is Apple’s main revenue generator, and missing a year can be devastating to their revenue and shares.
 
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People who go for carrier deals i.e 24 month/ 36 month BS are retards. Believe it or not they’ll fight back and tell you “no” they are genius instead and they will give you a petty reason or two; in which basically they end up paying more. Regardless of their theory of “trading” an old device.
 
Have the 13 Pro and 13 Mini. Love both phones, but I tend to use my 13 mini more. No upgrade for me, hanging onto these phones for a while, new iPhones every year don’t amaze me anymore.
 
My comment was based on how the current market is upgrading for the longevity of their device. So people aren’t “in sync” now, they’re holding off on new purchases. So the yearly model just doesn’t seem sustainable. So if Apple skips a year, not only might it appear fresh, it can give itself time to focus on true upgraded devices. How many years have we heard the same rumor was going to happen, but got delayed. Then just delay the device.
You are assuming that those rumors we hear about new features for specific phones are accurate rather than somewhat informed guesses. We don’t really know that Apple has really planned to launch feature X in iPhone N just that it was rumored so. When that feature doesn’t appear in iPhone N we assume that it was a miss and that Apple had to move it to another year. In fact iPhone features are planned multiple years in advance and locked down more than a year prior to launch.

If Apple were to skip a year and hold back features for the next year, they might have more trouble trying to integrate multiple features into one year rather than spreading them out across two.

People would still claim that the iPhone was disappointing, especially since they had two years to work on it. People get worked up about rumored features that may or may not appear and are disappointed if they don’t show up. Others have specific pet features that excite them (like USB-C) and if that feature is not included they declare it a disappointing year regardless of the other features.
 
while I have done the same, unless you want to swap SIMs, 2 phones active at the same time would require 2 service contracts ... plus, your friends/family will now have 2 phone #s to remember ;)
In my country, prepaid SIM are being given away left and right. I can buy a random thing (not tech related) and get a free prepaid SIM or two out of nowhere. It’s so out of control that the government limits every ID to only able to register 3 numbers per carrier online (you can have more, but you have to go to the carrier store to register them manually).

I myself have 5 active numbers (different carriers and MVNO)…. ?
 
On the contrary. Apple needs to come out with a new iPhone at least every year to capture those upgrades yoy. iPhone is Apple’s main revenue generator, and missing a year can be devastating to their revenue and shares.
People will buy their phones regardless. People buy iPhones the week before a new phone comes out. They buy a new phone when they change the colors. I’m saying yearly iPhone upgrades isn’t sustainable.
 
I keep waiting for the iPhone Pro Max to support the Apple Pencil.
 
Without a USB-C mini, absolutely.

People who didn't want a flagship model were more likely to purchase a larger phone. It's easier to manage an
I'm ready for the USB-C version.

The number of people here that posted about usb-c tells me that yes, the next iPhone will absolutely be a disappointment.

Because the bar is so low. The people that think usb-c is the difference between satisfaction or disappointment are the reason we have a wobbly iPhone with a huge notch. Because you’ll buy whatever they sell. To you, a sweeping success is an iPhone that switches to a different charging/data port? Wow. At least Apple can rest easy knowing the pressure is off.
 
Disappointment to who?

My iPhone 13 Pro Max is less than a year old. How many iPhone users upgrade after just a year, or even two? For me it is typically three years between new models, so I'm more interested in the innovations that will be coming with the iPhone 15 and even iPhone 16!

Last stat I heard, most iPhone users upgrade every three years.

I'm keeping my 13 Pro until it loses support. I pay full price up front and want to get the lost out of it
 
My phone will be 6 years old so it would be a major upgrade. It wouldn't be disappointing to get the 14 at all but it would be very disappointing next year when the likely upgrades we actually want come out.
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