Really liking the debate going on about the iPod touch! It signals that there is still quite a bit of interest in the product line 
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iPod touch Will the iPod touch 6th generation revitalize sales?
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It depends upon one's needs. I find iPhones woefully overpriced. I think iPod Touches are priced well.
If it has a sustainable market, then it doesn't need to be "saved".
There is still great interest (by virtually any measure) for non-phone Apple devices in spite of all of Apple's attempts to corral people into buying iPhones. They've done a masterful job of training people away FROM dedicated devices like the iPod and TO the iPhone to the point where people have forgotten what the benefits are of those dedicated devices.Really liking the debate going on about the iPod touch! It signals that there is still quite a bit of interest in the product line
$200 is a phenomenal price for an A8, 8mb camera, iOS 8, etc. iPod Touch!
Many people have limited needs, so 16GB will work fine... But only $50 more gets you double the space, or 32GB!
$250 is a great price for a MODERN, UP TO DATE 32GB iPod Touch!
Many people have limited needs, so 16GB will work fine... But only $50 more gets you double the space, or 32GB!
$250 is a great price for a MODERN, UP TO DATE 32GB iPod Touch!
Yuch! Anyone else find this creepy?! And, an invasion of privacy?
Do you post or publish the photos? If so, do you first get people's permission to post photos of them? Do you ensure that people sign release forms OKing their inclusion--and keep them on file?
Depending upon where you live, you also could be violating all sorts of laws!
Sorry to have taken a serious turn in my response--I agree with general sentiments about the iPod Touch being an amazing device and a good camera, but this just struck me wrong. There are many people who would not take kindly to have their photos taken--or, their children's--without formal permission!
It sounds like they're pulling an "Ipad Mini 3" here, as they could've included a fingerprint scanner, and 4.7" screen, but by deliberately leaving them out, they save that for the IpT7 as another "major feature update".
There are apps that are Ipad only. If they decided to lump Ipod Touch apps (which are really Iphone OS apps) into Ipad, then you'd still need a way to differentiate between the 2. Apps designed for the Ipad and Ipad Mini's larger screens will NOT work with a 4" Ipod Touch screen.
Are you serious! ios8.0.4 + the system eats 14 GB right there! I shudder to think what paltry space is left on a 16 GB model then!
Ditto. If it also had a 4.7" screen, it would've been an insta-buy. Instead, I'm going to use my IpT5 as much as the battery will hold charge, and then see what my options are from there. Given I use my IpT5 almost daily for games, also see when games will start requiring ios8 minimum. This is enough of a turn off that I'm willing to consider giving up iOS gaming in the near future.
Price is good, but it ain't modern. It should've also had a 4.7" screen, and Touch ID. I'd gladly pay an extra $50 to upgrade to a 4.7" screen. This is one of those cases where Android may be somewhat more fragmented, but at least I now have a choice of hardware there. Here, those who wanted a modern, 4" iPhone are stuck with however far the Iph5s will take them. Those who want a 4.7" IpT will need to wait and see with the IpT7, get a Iph6, or just get out of the iOS game altogether.
Not to make things worse, but folks have been taking pictures mostly without permission. Laws do vary, but I'm guessing if you're in a public area, it may be creepy, but it's not illegal.
Heck, I've met folks who only buy phones if there's a way to turn off the shutter sound. IIRC, there was a law that required the shutter sound to be always on so folks can know if they're being in a photo shot? Or was that only in Japan? Either way, it seemed ridiculous. There are just too many ways to invade privacy these days, and an IpT6 is hardly at the top of the list.
LOL. Creepy? Street photography is an artform that has been around since cameras were invented. You make it sound like I'm taping my iPod touch to my shoe and looking up women's skirts. I'm talking about art man. Photography. Street scenes of people & places. Architecture & landscapes and environmental portraits.. Not perverted snapshots dude. People are a lot more natural around street photographers who carry small cameras than those with huge DSLRs & giant lenses clicking away in their faces. That's what I'm talking about. Walking around with an iPod touch is a dream. Some shots I take are candid street scenes, and others I engage the person in conversation before taking their pic. You ever hear of Humans Of NY? That kind of stuff. So please man, get your mind outta the gutter.
Why was a new Touch released? That's easy, how long ago did Apple Music come aboard? No coincidence obviously, they want folks to buy in while not needing an iphone which is costly and getting a device with good specs besides.
Pretty smart, Apple.
Pretty smart, Apple.
It would if 
really sold it. I mean, it's not even on the front page! Come on. They could make loads off this if they advertised it more.
This! Everybody complaining about screen size and even something as stupid as a non-sapphire lens (OK, nobody has in this thread), it $199! Less than a third of the price of the iPhone 6 SIM-free. Of course it's going to lack a few features. It still has a stellar value though.
really sold it. I mean, it's not even on the front page! Come on. They could make loads off this if they advertised it more.This! Everybody complaining about screen size and even something as stupid as a non-sapphire lens (OK, nobody has in this thread), it $199! Less than a third of the price of the iPhone 6 SIM-free. Of course it's going to lack a few features. It still has a stellar value though.
I agree. This new iPod touch might be the Apple product with the most bang for your buck.It would if
This! Everybody complaining about screen size and even something as stupid as a non-sapphire lens (OK, nobody has in this thread), it $199! Less than a third of the price of the iPhone 6 SIM-free. Of course it's going to lack a few features. It still has a stellar value though.
It would if
This! Everybody complaining about screen size and even something as stupid as a non-sapphire lens (OK, nobody has in this thread), it $199! Less than a third of the price of the iPhone 6 SIM-free. Of course it's going to lack a few features. It still has a stellar value though.
Something may be a good bang for the buck, but if it doesn't meet the specifications of the user, then it's not something they'll be buying. If it were only about what's a good value then Iphone users would be saying "screw cell signal!" and jumping ship to these Ipod Touches. Desktop and notebook users would've been using Windows machines, but they stick with OSX machines because it has what they want.
As far as these screens go, I've ran into plenty of old timers at career fairs back around 2011 and 2012. Many of them used Samsung Note 2's, and Androids in general. Many of them would've stuck with iOS, but the 4" screen was just too small for their eyes. Here, I'd gladly pay extra money for a model that has a 4.7" screen. Alas, for better and for worse with Apples smaller selection of product line, it's IpT6 is the only new thing on the market.
Exactly if it doesn't work of you then move along! Apple isn't going to add GPS, the aren't going to add larger screens right now. Why because these devices are designed to meet a certain margin. If they start going with bigger screens, adding GPS, touch ID then guess what? They can no longer meet the margins without raising the prices. If they had introduced these iPod Touches with all those things and then raised the prices to keep the margins, who the heck would buy them? There really is some business reasoning into what they do. Now do I personally think they try to make too much money off these devices absolutely. However, anyone that doesn't by now know that Apple is a purely profit driven company isn't paying attention.
They don't mind not getting the sell for the iPod Touch to those that want GPS, larger screens and touch ID, because most of those will buy an iPhone (as that is how they would have to price them to make margins). It just make sense if you think about.
That's a good point. Even though many more people would buy and iPod touch if it had a 4.7" screen, Apple knows this and does not want to cannibalize iPhone 6 sales. Who can blame them?
Also, while I know some may disagree, the iPod touch is aimed at kids, so a small device with a 4" screen is more than enough for their small hands.
I understand your point. I was just saying that for $199, the iPod touch 6th generation is an incredible value, even if it doesn't have the larger screen or Touch-ID. You can't say the same thing about the iPad Mini 3 at $399.
Yes, indeed you and I agree 100% on this. We said it differently, but I think we both are on point with this. Thanks
You're welcomeYes, indeed you and I agree 100% on this. We said it differently, but I think we both are on point with this. Thanks
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the value in the new iPod touch. If I were younger and did not have an iPhone, I definitely would have bought a blue one! I can't recall ever feeling the same about any other Apple product (in terms of value, at least).
I really do not think Apple is trying to revitalize Ipod touch more than to sell Apple Music service.
Those A8 chip, M8 processor were probably just economic of scale left from manufacturing the Iphone 6 and we are looking at 2 months before Iphone 6s which would have an A9 chip twice or 3 times quicker than Iphone 6. Ipod touch with A5 chip is as good as an Ipad 2 with ios 8, a paper weight. I have no idea why they would release new color at same expensive price for nano and shuffle either when both can't sync offline music from Itune.
Those A8 chip, M8 processor were probably just economic of scale left from manufacturing the Iphone 6 and we are looking at 2 months before Iphone 6s which would have an A9 chip twice or 3 times quicker than Iphone 6. Ipod touch with A5 chip is as good as an Ipad 2 with ios 8, a paper weight. I have no idea why they would release new color at same expensive price for nano and shuffle either when both can't sync offline music from Itune.
They cannot sync music from the new Apple Music service, but they can still sync music that you own from within iTunes to the device and will play just fine. They added the new colors for consistency across the product line.
its going to help B2B developers sell apps that are handheld (iPod/iPhone) without having our customers buy an off contract iPhone and have us negotiate or bring down the price of our app license.
So yes this helps out a lot
iPhone + App + Barcode Sleeve = $700 + 800+ 500 = $2000
compared to
iPod + App + Barcode Sleeve = $200 + 800 + 500 = $1500
I heard that the IpT5 got the same quality screens as the Iph5/s to streamline the process, as opposed with the IpT4 and the Iph4/s, those 2 products had their own types of screens, and required 2 separate lines.
I can't really see this being the case. I believe if the Iph had a 4" screen, and IpT had a 4.7" screen, those who really want cell capabilities will still get the Iph. It sounds as far fetched as saying now the IpT6 will cannibalize sales from Iph users who want better performance from games and "heavy apps".
OTOH, having purchased 7 Palm OS devices, and used 4 of them, I've learned that it is NOT in their interest to outpace themselves, nor provide an "ultimate" device. If they outpace themselves, they have no room left for improvement. Here, they'll probably just put in the 4.7" screen for the IpT7. Likewise, if they made an ultimate device, most folks would just get those, as there were quite a few "power users".
Apple makes about $400 from every Iphone they sell. I read an article that many cell phone vendors push Android phones b/c while they only get about $50 per Iphone sold, they get around $150 to $200 off each Android. I'm sure it goes without saying that we all know Apple goes for huge margins. Between that, and tax shelters they've set up, I'm not surprised they have $190 bil in the bank.
I'm also sure they'll get more sales by gutting out some of the good stuff and selling it cheaper. However, as I've mentioned in other threads, I would've gladly paid extra if given the option to upgrade to a 4.7" screen.
I am sure there are some that wouldn't mind paying more for what they want. The question really boils down to is it enough that it would be worth Apple doing. Clearly Apple right now doesn't think so.
They have more cash in reserve than Microsoft and Google combined! LOL
3 times? I highly doubt it. The trend if anything is that we're plateauing in terms of CPU/GPU improvements.
