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Will the rMBP be released during WWDC?
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No problem. Who really knows what will be available once you're here. Maybe the refreshed models will be will out already. It's best to just wait and see once what's available once you're actually in America.
Yes, but we have a shortage of MBAs which is not a rumor, it's very concrete. We also have a rumor by 9to5Mac informing of new part leaks with prices matching the current MBAs. This is still a rumor, but a rumor about a hard fact, with specific information.
As for the rMBP, there are only rumors. Nothing concrete or specific.
"Concrete" or "specific" rumors aren't as concrete as something being announced (or not) at WWDC in 4 days. I, of course, am hoping for updated rMBPs, but Airs might be good too. It depends what Apple does.
Which model(s) are you hoping are announced on Monday so you will be able to purchase before school.
So you're willing to get a refreshed air? I would be willing to do that too, but I have my heart set on an rMBP. I don't really want to get current rMBP, but I also need it by August.
I really really hope it!
Sold my iMac earlier this week, so I'm "stuck" with my 2008 MBP now...
But 9to5mac doesn't sound so optimistic about that
9to5Mac has just released a WWDC 2013 roundup, stating that it is not expecting the rMBP to be updated next week, although a refresh should be in the cards for the next few months:
http://9to5mac.com/2013/06/06/wwdc-...-like-radio-app-plus-new-tidbits/#more-273800
Not quite true. They said the don't expect it to ship next week, but an update is possible at WWDC or in the coming weeks.
I hope that too...
Other manufacturers are shipping Haswell laptops.. I cannot see why Apple would NOT announce them on Monday. Even if they can't ship it on day one - then just announce it and say it can be ordered today, but first shipping in 1 month.
WWDC would be the only logic place to announce it. A small spec upgrade can't have a separate event. So if they're not announcing it on WWDC, it would maybe be announced with iPad 5/Mini 2/iPhone 5?
I still think that it will be announced on WWDC. Fingers crossed!
Yeah pretty much! I think I'm set on a rMBP, want the retina haha. Battery life is not a huge priority, I'm more excited about the graphics upgrade as the current HD4000's are older. That is my main reason for waiting on the refresh.
I could see it on the 15" rmbp as a trial-run. It's an expensive computer, so they don't make as many. It's also expensive enough to absorb the cost.
But since it is so expensive, people expect it to not have new tech problems, especially since it is a gen two product, or will be.
The issue is that; if the rMBP is released tomorrow, there probably won't much much of a graphics upgrade over the current one; at least for the 13" type.
They basically have three choices:
- use the available 28 W SKUs (or possibly the quad 37W 4702MQ), which would be the logical choice for the 13" pro. But this would leave them with HD 4600 graphics, which is only a small upgrade over current offerings.
- use the available ULV offerings, and get that 40 EU part for graphics (HD 5000 series) without the eDRAM; but the CPU performance would be drastically curtailed compared even to the curr generation.
- Wait for the 28/37W SKUs that have mainstream M series performance (base clock 2.2GHz +), and also have some form of GT3/GT3e graphics (Iris, Iris pro) that would be a big leap from curr gen graphics. But this won't be released until late october timeframe (give or take a few weeks).
The 15" really doesn't really matter that much in terms of what iGPU is on-die with intel SKU, since it likely had a discrete solution built-in anyway. Unless they are thinking about offering a 15" with integrated graphics again, like they did 3-4 years ago.
- HD4600 is 30-40% faster than the 4000.
- Apple is such a large company that I am sure Intel could give them a chip a few weeks to a couple of months ahead of time. Iris Pro is shipping in Q3, which could be July, so getting a CPU a month ahead of time isn't impossible.
- Custom clocked and GPU'd CPU?
No; early benchmarks show around average of 10%-15% difference in real application (non-synthetic) benchmarks: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7032/...-gpu-on-the-desktop-radeon-hd-8670d-hd-4600/2
Iris Pro is shipping, maybe even at the end of Q2 in a few products, but all of them in the initial batch would be high-end 47W SKUs. Lower TDP iris pro (28W which is what ideally needed) won't be out for another 2 quarters.
Isn't that the desktop 4600? Mobile might be different slightly. Also, you really think Apple would include a significantly lower TDP than the previous gen, bringing potentially less performance? 35 to 47W is not such a stretch, and with Haswell's lower base clock it might be a good fit.
They are the same with regard to the graphics subsystem; they have slightly different implementations of PLL and on-die power optimizer, with a different state machine for ACPI sleep states, and tweaks in the FIVR. Given the identical clocks in the graphics parts with the same EUs and same mem subsystem; the performance should be identical.
With regard to TDP, I don't think it's all that much of a stretch, if you can tweak the thermal conductance of the HS and cooling assembly; the current chassis design seems to have some headroom (13" rMBP has very good thermal characteristics and noise profile for the cooling system). But probably comes at a significant cost; probably in the area of usability (e.g. it probably makes the machine much less comfortable to use when the CPU is under full load.
These graphics show a performance difference between the HD4000 and the HD4600 which is much higher than 10-15%. It's more towards 20-40%.