Will you return and exchange your black iPhone for a white one if they become availab

Actually - there is a slight difference there. There's a difference between buying an OLDER model and wanting to exchange/pay for an upgrade vs exchanging for a color preference.

The 3GS and 4 are different beyond cosmetics.

If you fail to see that, I can see how you fail to see how it's selfish.

But why return the 3GS that was originally bought?

It will take away an i4 from somebody else :rolleyes:
 
Anyone who fully intends to do as the OP suggests is a very lame, selfish person.

If you want black, get it. If you want white, wait. It's not that difficult.

awww i guess i am a bad person :(

i sold my phone when they announced everything with intent to get white. They pulled white last minute and now I am without a phone so I had to choose the black. How does this make me a selfish lame person if a few weeks later they release white and I decide to trade in (and pay restocking fee) my black phone for the one I originally intended on getting?
 
wouldn't apple know this is going to happen? and not want to deal with taking back all those 30 day old and used i phones to exchange them for white? so my thinking is they will not release the white ones until after your exchange period is over just to screw the people who bought the black now with the idea of exchanging it for white later

This sound about right.
 
In both cases an i4 is being taken away from someone else.

Why does the reason matter?

Oh. See. You think this is about taking something away from someone else. And I'm arguing that it's selfish and tacky in general for someone to lack patience to buy what they want when it's available instead of jumping through hoops.

Go read my car example.
 
Cry me a bloody river and drown it in. You gotta play the hand you were dealt, the bait-n-switch Apple pulled with still no word or reason why is absolutely ridiculous so I'll be picking up a black iPhone on thursday with every intention to return it for a white one asap while you play Apple's little bull***** game and wait.

Well, aren't you a great addition to the forum. Anyway, this is why Apple should wait until the pre-ordered phones have passed the 30 day return period to release the white model.
 
Oh. See. You think this is about taking something away from someone else. And I'm arguing that it's selfish and tacky in general for someone to lack patience to buy what they want when it's available instead of jumping through hoops.

Go read my car example.

You do know that you can't return a car, right?
 
If I manage to get my hands on a black iPhone 4 on launch day (evening) or the Friday then I will most definately be swapping for the white when they get in stock. Who cares if people dont like that.
 
You do know that you can't return a car, right?

really? REALLY?

Thanks for the tip. Again - we're talking ethics/patience. And since we're obviously not speaking the same language, nor will we ever agree - there's little point in discussing the issue further with you.
 
really? REALLY?

Thanks for the tip. Again - we're talking ethics/patience. And since we're obviously not speaking the same language, nor will we ever agree - there's little point in discussing the issue further with you.

Yea obviously it takes more patience to wait for white and great for the people who can do it.

I just don't see what's wrong with returning the black for the unavailable at launch white as long as it's within the 30 day return period. The people who do this are even punished because they have to pay the restocking fee.
 
Yea obviously it takes more patience to wait for white and great for the people who can do it.

I just don't see what's wrong with returning the black for the unavailable at launch white as long as it's within the 30 day return period. The people who do this are even punished because they have to pay the restocking fee.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. The return policy isn't there to protect your right to buy one knowing you plan on returning it. Is that a side "benefit" - sure. But that's not the intent of having a return policy.

You're also allowed to keep hitting redial to ATT and Apple's switchboards to keep asking when the iPhone is going to ship even though every person tells you the same thing. You can do this every minute of every day from now until thursday. Does that make it right? Is anything wrong with that?
 
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. The return policy isn't there to protect your right to buy one knowing you plan on returning it. Is that a side "benefit" - sure. But that's not the intent of having a return policy.

You're also allowed to keep hitting redial to ATT and Apple's switchboards to keep asking when the iPhone is going to ship even though every person tells you the same thing. You can do this every minute of every day from now until thursday. Does that make it right? Is anything wrong with that?

There are no punishments in your example.

There is a punishment for returning an iPhone.
 
There are no punishments in your example.

There is a punishment for returning an iPhone.

Only if put into action. Just like - ATT and Apple COULD bring up charges of harassment, terminate service, etc for those people that decided to keep them on autodial repeatedly.

Your point, to me, is moot.

Again - just because you can do something - doesn't make it right.
 
If they release the white one within 30 days than yes I will exchange it, if not than its not a big deal, it's just a color.
 
Only if put into action. Just like - ATT and Apple COULD bring up charges of harassment, terminate service, etc for those people that decided to keep them on autodial repeatedly.

Your point, to me, is moot.

Again - just because you can do something - doesn't make it right.

You're not going to change their minds. It's an issue of morals. You either have them or you don't. I blame parenting, or lack there of.
 
Apple doesn't care about black to white iPhone 4 returns. The amount of people that are going to go through the hassle of switching only for the color probably amount to less than 1% of 600,000+ black iPhone 4s that they sold June 15. They won't even bother raising the restocking fee. It's a waste of time. If exchanges do become an issue, they'll stop color exchanges entirely.

Well, I agree that Apple probably don't care.

However, I do think it's rather rude to buy something, knowing you fully intend to return it, and while doing so, snap up a phone that someone else actually waited to purchase.

Just seems unethical.
 
I'll put on my flame suit and say, yes. I'm getting mine at Best Buy so hopefully the 45 day and no restock stuff applies. If not, I don't mine the 10%.

I'm in the same situation. Best Buy told me I only have 14 days to exchange it
 
I just don't even understand why anyone would INSIST on buying a phone on launch day if they couldn't get a color they liked enough to actually keep the phone.

Why not just go to the Apple Store and play with the display models? I mean, if you sold your iPhone and really don't want to wait, I can see that... especially if you use the phone for business or are heavily tied to the platform. I'm in that position, and that's why I hung on to my 3GS. I've upgraded every year around launch time (First year bought on launch day, 2nd 2 months later, 3rd bought on launch weekend). I never sell my old phones until I have my new one in hand, working, and set up like I want.

It takes all of a day or 2, tops, to sell a used iPhone on Craigslist or some such.

If you cannot part with a couple two or three hundred for 2 days while waiting to recoup some of your loss, then really? Do you need a new phone? (That's rhetorical, everyone has to answer that question for his/her self)

I stand by my original assertion. Buying a black phone just to be the first person in your... what? house? cul-de-sac? to have a new iPhone (and really? since the launch of the 3GS, it's unlikely that you'll even be able to guarantee that... nearly everyone has an iPhone) and get bragging rights or something?

Explaineth. I mean, I've had new phones at launch. I know it's fun. But, really?

They don't have the color I wanted. I wait.

Maturia. Yep. I apparently moved there and didn't even know it.

I'm mildly disappointed, as I really enjoyed my sense of childlike wonder. Maybe the neighbors'll let me keep it.

:D
 
some of you you fail to realize that some of us sold our iphones beforehand with intentions of getting the white one. those of us that were told last minute the whites weren't available had no other choice then to get the black one. if you want to buy me a loaner phone to wait for the white then be my guest :) until then, i will enjoy the black and send it back for a white one if the white ones get released within a few weeks of launch. If white phones are releases in a few months then I will just keep the black one. Regardless of how "wrong" some of you think it is, it is more wrong of apple to advertise something and then change it last minute with no explanation or updated release info on them.
 
some of you you fail to realize that some of us sold our iphones beforehand with intentions of getting the white one. those of us that were told last minute the whites weren't available had no other choice then to get the black one. if you want to buy me a loaner phone to wait for the white then be my guest :) until then, i will enjoy the black and send it back for a white one if the white ones get released within a few weeks of launch. If white phones are releases in a few months then I will just keep the black one. Regardless of how "wrong" some of you think it is, it is more wrong of apple to advertise something and then change it last minute with no explanation or updated release info on them.


I can understand and appreciate your frustration. But that was your choice. Apple didn't force you to sell your phone when you did. You could have held onto it. Right? And do you have a phone at all now? Could that not tide you over until the white one is released?

In short. It was your decision. The only person at "fault" if you can even call it that is you for hedging your bets. You took a chance - you lost. Accept it. And take OWNERSHIP of your decision instead of trying to lame blame elsewhere.

That's the mature thing, anyway.
 
I can understand and appreciate your frustration. But that was your choice. Apple didn't force you to sell your phone when you did. You could have held onto it. Right? And do you have a phone at all now? Could that not tide you over until the white one is released?

In short. It was your decision. The only person at "fault" if you can even call it that is you for hedging your bets. You took a chance - you lost. Accept it. And take OWNERSHIP of your decision instead of trying to lame blame elsewhere.

That's the mature thing, anyway.

Agreed!

Althought, to Sleazy's credit, he did say that he'd just keep the black one and it'd be fine, if they don't come out with white in time. I've seen some other people here in a fury over the possibility of having to have *shudder* a black phone.

If I REALLY wanted one on launch day, if I broke mine, if I needed a phone before the white came out, I'd just suck it up and buy a black one and keep it. That's what cases and bumpers are for. Decorating!
 
Agreed!

Althought, to Sleazy's credit, he did say that he'd just keep the black one and it'd be fine, if they don't come out with white in time. I've seen some other people here in a fury over the possibility of having to have *shudder* a black phone.

If I REALLY wanted one on launch day, if I broke mine, if I needed a phone before the white came out, I'd just suck it up and buy a black one and keep it. That's what cases and bumpers are for. Decorating!

Agreed re: Sleazy. My commentary was prompted by him, but not directed entirely or exclusively to him
 
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