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I have run WIn7 Pro and Win10 Pro via BootCamp and they did not get hot at all. Seldom hear the fan in my MBPro 15 Retina. I run Win7 Pro for years now on all my macs. No heat problem here.

Good to hear, but I can say using Win7 via bootcamp on several machines only for gaming, and they get crazy hot before fans do anything. With the software, I set the fans the way I want, they come on, machine never even gets warm. Great software.

BTW, on the Mac side, the same software if great is you lose a heat sensor, like what used to be common swapping a HD on a Mini. Bust/damage the sensor, and fans are stuck on high. Two options; fix/replace logic board, or control fans via software. Macs Fan Control has saved dozens if not hundreds of Macs users from run away fans. If you need it, you need it.
 
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Windows 10 vs El Capitan test. Opening a 2.88GB TIFF image.

Windows opens it in Photo Viewer immediately and renders it in 4 seconds.

El Capitan takes over 22 seconds to open it in either Quicklook or Preview.

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I had to remove the link because Dropbox said I was using excessive traffic.
 
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Windows 10 vs El Capitan test. Opening a 2.88GB TIFF image.

Windows opens it in Photo Viewer immediately and renders it in 4 seconds.

El Capitan takes over 22 seconds to open it in either Quicklook or Preview.

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I had to remove the link because Dropbox said I was using excessive traffic.

Interesting indeed.
If that's the case I agree Windows 10 is ”waaay faster” when it comes to that at least.
 
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Yeah. I may not get an Apple computer next time around if Microsoft keeps this up and the next versions of the Dell XPS 13 are just as good. Or if the Razer Blade becomes cheaper. I just don't see the appeal of Macs anymore.
 
Yeah. I may not get an Apple computer next time around if Microsoft keeps this up and the next versions of the Dell XPS 13 are just as good. Or if the Razer Blade becomes cheaper. I just don't see the appeal of Macs anymore.

Good luck. :)

My friend (who works as an IT technician and now is an IT manager) has always been running Windows says he had a problem with Windows 10 that showed as search results in the Start Menu suddenly didn't showed up. After hours of research he found out that it was due to a bug in Cortana. He also got a blue screen when he connected a USB hub.

I got a blue screen in Windows 10 myself when installing drivers for my mouse. After a restart it worked fine to do the same installation again… :-|

I don't know – I still think there's an appeal to Macs and OS X (but Windows 10 is still the best Windows so far). Especially when it comes to the GUI of apps (i.e. third party ones) there's a more coherent user interface in OS X.
 
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Interesting indeed.
If that's the case I agr
Good luck. :)


I don't know – I still think there's an appeal to Macs and OS X, but Windows 10 is still the best Windows so far. Especially when it comes to the GUI of apps (i.e. third party ones). More coherent usr interface in OS X.

I do like the appeal of Apple hardware having a very good resale value as well though obviously you are paying more upfront many times(not always). Im seriously thinking about migrating back off of OS X as well considering I use Windows for work and theres just too many apps not available for OS X or they 'don't work as well'.
 
I do like the appeal of Apple hardware having a very good resale value as well though obviously you are paying more upfront many times(not always). Im seriously thinking about migrating back off of OS X as well considering I use Windows for work and theres just too many apps not available for OS X or they 'don't work as well'.
You don't get more money back because of the appeal of the hardware, but because you pay way more for it.
 
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You don't get more money back because of the appeal of the hardware, but because you pay way more for it.

Take Apple out of the conversation. Take a look at the resale cost for a well-spec'd PC from Dell after a few months.

Do you think it holds its value well?
 
I haven't found a Asus all-in-one that looks as good as my retina iMac. I also haven't figured out how to build an all-in-one. If that happens I probably can get a hardware engineering job.
All-in-one's are not that useful. You get a compromised hardware (with a mobile GPU) for a higher price. Using a desktop computer and a high quality display will result in a 50% money saving and higher quality.
 
All-in-one's are not that useful. You get a compromised hardware (with a mobile GPU) for a higher price. Using a desktop computer and a high quality display will result in a 50% money saving and higher quality.


I don't want a desktop.
 
I do like the appeal of Apple hardware having a very good resale value as well though obviously you are paying more upfront many times(not always). Im seriously thinking about migrating back off of OS X as well considering I use Windows for work and theres just too many apps not available for OS X or they 'don't work as well'.

Sure, I the apps can be an issue I guess. Just curious which ones are you thinking about that are missing on OS X and/or work better in Windows?

You don't get more money back because of the appeal of the hardware, but because you pay way more for it.

Maybe you don't get ”your money back” in that sense, but a Mac sure doesn't lose value as fast as a general PC do over the years. I've experienced that myself selling some of the ones I've had.
 
Sure, I the apps can be an issue I guess. Just curious which ones are you thinking about that are missing on OS X and/or work better in Windows?


Things like trying to RDP into my company's Windows environment from any OSX browser causing major issues(ive verified the java error client issue happens with others with no resolution). MISC business intelligence applications such as MicroStrategy that have more general bugs on OSX probably just due to lack of user base to vent them out. Software like Quicken is missing features. People would rather run a Windows VM with Quicken than use the OSX version. I could go on for a while…..OSX does a great job in certain areas but the world is a big place
 
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Desktops are the best option for nonportable computers. For € 549 you can get a Intel Core i7 4790, 8GB of RAM, 1TB of 7200 rpm HDD and a GTX 750. For the same price you can't even get a Mac mini.



I do not want a desktop. I want no peripherals besides my wireless keyboard and wireless mouse. I have not found a Windows solution as attractive as the Retina iMac in terms of the monitor quality and build.


Besides I purchased my retina iMac in Nov 2014. The only equivalent monitor on the market was the Dell’s 5K Monitor which cost more than what I paid for my retina iMac which had basically the same screen(some tests revealed the iMac was slightly better in certain areas if i remembered correctly). Dell did drop the price but its still a $2,000 monitor today.
 
I do not want a desktop. I want no peripherals besides my wireless keyboard and wireless mouse. I have not found a Windows solution as attractive as the Retina iMac in terms of the monitor quality and build.


Besides I purchased my retina iMac in Nov 2014. The only equivalent monitor on the market was the Dell’s 5K Monitor which cost more than what I paid for my retina iMac which had basically the same screen(some tests revealed the iMac was slightly better in certain areas if i remembered correctly). Dell did drop the price but its still a $2,000 monitor today.
You can buy an high quality 4K monitor for $500 and a powerful PC for $1000.
 
Things like trying to RDP into my company's Windows environment from any OSX browser causing major issues(ive verified the java error client issue happens with others with no resolution). MISC business intelligence applications such as MicroStrategy that have more general bugs on OSX probably just due to lack of user base to vent them out. Software like Quicken is missing features. People would rather run a Windows VM with Quicken than use the OSX version. I could go on for a while…..OSX does a great job in certain areas but the world is a big place

Can't you use Microsoft Remote Desktop for RDP:ing into your company's Windows environment?

https://itunes.apple.com/se/app/microsoft-remote-desktop/id715768417?l=en&mt=12

The rest might be true – stuff that rely on Java usually tend to be sensitive and have issues (on both platforms). Business apps tend to be more focused on Windows, that's true. Quicken I don't know about Windows vs. OS X. But maybe there are alternatives on OS X that work better?
 
I do not want a desktop
Go price a sager laptop build A.t exoticpc. Far less than a macbook pro, far more to it and upgradable.

The wife and oldest son both have hp envy's, I have a mac. She got a 17" hd screen, i7 2.4 proc, 12gb memory, 1tb hd and gforce 840m with 2gb for under 900.00. You have to go 2500 + tax I believe to get discreet graphics in a macbooa and its amd.

People here that have not actually tried them will whine about how bad hp is, but these are built really well. My next computer will not be a mac but it will be a couple of years. Probably either a sager laptop or a build my own desktop.

The kids have our two Windows laptops, dell and samsung, using them daily and they are 6 years old and going strong. To top it off windows os"silly fast" as stated. I will take my experience any day over "my uncle's brother's hairdresser says......".
 
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I am very new to this forum. I have a macbook pro and just installed the newest version of parallels - 11. I was using parallels 10 with an ancient Windows xp. Now I want to move from xp to windows 7 or windows 10. Can anyone tell me if it is better to go directly to 10, and how to do it without losing all my windows programs?
 
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