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Windows 10 Upgrade Thread
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but Windows 10 looks absolutely beautiful. I've got it boot-camped on my Retina Macbook Pro (previously had Windows 7 installed) and the UI is a vast improvement.
Haven't updated my only Boot Camp-ed Mac(2010 MBP), however at the moment I have a Thinkpad T61 with Intel X3100 IGP running the upgrade process. A relative who took my other T61(nVidia Quadro 140M) had said Windows 10 runs *really* smoothly compared to Windows 8.1 so it sort of made me interested in seeing how a non-dGPU model would handle it.
Unsure if the nVidia GPU of my 2010 MBP is supported on Win10.
Unsure if the nVidia GPU of my 2010 MBP is supported on Win10.
Just tried it through the windows upgrade link.
I'm running a mid 2010 MBP 15" core i5, 8gb, 500gb SSD, 32" BENQ external monitor. I have windows 7 pro running in parallels on the bootcamp partition.
The windows 10 installer said the graphics driver / WDDM is incompatible with windows 10. I installed the Intel update survey and ran that - it said there were no intel drivers found.
I'm running the latest update of parallels 10. I'm reading on the parallels forum that this seems to be an issue.
I'm running a mid 2010 MBP 15" core i5, 8gb, 500gb SSD, 32" BENQ external monitor. I have windows 7 pro running in parallels on the bootcamp partition.
The windows 10 installer said the graphics driver / WDDM is incompatible with windows 10. I installed the Intel update survey and ran that - it said there were no intel drivers found.
I'm running the latest update of parallels 10. I'm reading on the parallels forum that this seems to be an issue.
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The 330m is fully supported under Windows 10 with Nvidia's latest drivers. Along with cards all the way back to the 8xxx series. Should do just fine.
In bootcamp you will be using the Nvidia drivers since only the Nvidia card will be active, in Parallels it's using their driver, and that's probably where the issue is. You'll need a version that supports Windows 10. Or really any WDDM driver, so the one bundled with Parallels should work. You might give this a shot. Reinstalling Parallels tools may do the trick. I upgraded my dads HP PC to Windows 10 and it killed his ATI drivers (5770), so I had to redownload the whole thing over a 1mbps connection just to get the screen above 1024x768. So Windows 10 doesn't always keep a driver that was working in Windows 7 or 8. In either case there will be no Intel drivers, since only OS X will use the integrated card natively.
As for my experience, I've upgraded a few computers now. My 2015 MBA, 2013 rMBP, 2010 HP, 2009 Asus, and a 2008 Vista era Toshiba. All have worked mostly fine with the only issue being the ATI/AMD drivers on the HP that went missing after the upgrade. The toshiba runs better on 10 than it did on Vista, 7, or 8, so that's nice to see. And it has a terrible Intel GMA card with the Core 2 Duo. Similar to the X3100 I think.
I have tried twice to update my Retina iMac external Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. I am using the .iso file released yesterday, the setup seems to run fine, downloads a bunch of updates, and starts the install. When I return, I find the following message on the screen:
0x80073892-0x20009
The installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase
with an error during PREPARE_ROLLBACK operation.
The second attempt I disconnected all external drives except the Thunderbolt SSD, the only other drive being the internal iMac 1TB SSD.
Research finds others with similar error messages, but no solution yet.
0x80073892-0x20009
The installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase
with an error during PREPARE_ROLLBACK operation.
The second attempt I disconnected all external drives except the Thunderbolt SSD, the only other drive being the internal iMac 1TB SSD.
Research finds others with similar error messages, but no solution yet.
I've hit a road block with my W8.1 in bootcamp. I never got the upgrade notification despite having the two necessary updates. Then I tried the direct tool download from MS. It starts up and I choose 'upgrade this PC' and the two seconds later it says "Something happened". It doesn't give an error code.
Read about this problem online and none of the suggestions worked.
Then I tried the create install media option. I was able to make a bootable USB install media but after it starts it asks me for a W10 key. No option to upgrade without a key. Where am i going to get a W10 if I am just upgrading?
grrrrrrrrr
Read about this problem online and none of the suggestions worked.
Then I tried the create install media option. I was able to make a bootable USB install media but after it starts it asks me for a W10 key. No option to upgrade without a key. Where am i going to get a W10 if I am just upgrading?
grrrrrrrrr
I have a retina iMac with w7 on bootcamp.
couldnt get the updater to download w10 in w7 no matter how many different methods I tried (i reserved w10 already)
it owuldnt let me download the iso from MS' website.
So i loaded up OSX, downloaded the w10 ISO from their site, and just mounted the ISO in w7 with my USB. Super painless once it started installing.
As a nuclear option, you COULD just do a fresh install with the free upgrade, but be prepared to have to reinstall w7 if you cant get your w7 cdkey to activate in w10.. I wanted to avoid that because well.. that owuld take a long time to fix.
once w10 was installed i had to reinstall the bootcamp drivers, after that everything perfect. So my suggestion for those who are having problems upgrading is to grab the ISO from microsoft (if you have w7/8 pro, get w10 pro, home, get home, etc) put it on a USB, and mount it inside of windows.
sooo, is it worth it? I think so. there's enough evidence out there that AMD gpus will see a performance boost in w10, so if you bootcamp windows just for a few games like i do, you'll definitely want to do it sooner or later. plus there is no longer any bootcamp support for windows 7, and I assume w10 will be supported soon & for a very long time.
couldnt get the updater to download w10 in w7 no matter how many different methods I tried (i reserved w10 already)
it owuldnt let me download the iso from MS' website.
So i loaded up OSX, downloaded the w10 ISO from their site, and just mounted the ISO in w7 with my USB. Super painless once it started installing.
As a nuclear option, you COULD just do a fresh install with the free upgrade, but be prepared to have to reinstall w7 if you cant get your w7 cdkey to activate in w10.. I wanted to avoid that because well.. that owuld take a long time to fix.
once w10 was installed i had to reinstall the bootcamp drivers, after that everything perfect. So my suggestion for those who are having problems upgrading is to grab the ISO from microsoft (if you have w7/8 pro, get w10 pro, home, get home, etc) put it on a USB, and mount it inside of windows.
sooo, is it worth it? I think so. there's enough evidence out there that AMD gpus will see a performance boost in w10, so if you bootcamp windows just for a few games like i do, you'll definitely want to do it sooner or later. plus there is no longer any bootcamp support for windows 7, and I assume w10 will be supported soon & for a very long time.
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I've hit a road block with my W8.1 in bootcamp. I never got the upgrade notification despite having the two necessary updates. Then I tried the direct tool download from MS. It starts up and I choose 'upgrade this PC' and the two seconds later it says "Something happened". It doesn't give an error code.
Read about this problem online and none of the suggestions worked.
Then I tried the create install media option. I was able to make a bootable USB install media but after it starts it asks me for a W10 key. No option to upgrade without a key. Where am i going to get a W10 if I am just upgrading?
grrrrrrrrr
download the ISO in OSX. you will not be prompted to download the direct tool from MS, you'll just get a straight 3.8gb ISO file.
Yeah ... that was the next thing I was going to try.
When I went to download the .iso file, there were 4 choices ... any idea what the differences was?
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Here is information on the N and KN .iso versions:
http://www.ibtimes.com/windows-10-i...s-windows-n-kn-versions-what-are-they-2031530
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My Windows update history now has 'Upgrade to Windows 10 Home' listed 23 times with 'Status: Failed' next to each one. The update control panel eventually downloaded the whole thing but threw up another error when installing. Two whole evenings I've wasted on it. The 'troubleshoot problems' link is basically useless generic advice on the level of 'turn it off and on again'.
I'm not a computer noob - I managed to build this machine and get it dual booting Mac / Windows - but I might just give up. Even downloading the iso via the official installer doesn't seem to get anywhere.
I only use Windows for games, thought it would be a fun thing to have on this computer - and it was until I tried to upgrade. This is the first Windows machine I've ever owned. The last computer I had before I became a Mac user was an Amiga. Windows 10, I despise thee.
I'm not a computer noob - I managed to build this machine and get it dual booting Mac / Windows - but I might just give up. Even downloading the iso via the official installer doesn't seem to get anywhere.
I only use Windows for games, thought it would be a fun thing to have on this computer - and it was until I tried to upgrade. This is the first Windows machine I've ever owned. The last computer I had before I became a Mac user was an Amiga. Windows 10, I despise thee.
Made a Winclone backup first, then tried to install the upgrade to my cMP 5.1 WIN 8.1 on SSD on the DUO x2 PCI card. Windows/OS X both see that as an external drive too, so tomorrow I'll hook my SSD in bay 1 again and then see how it goes. I'll report back ASAP.
BTW: I had the exact same error code!
Cheers
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I downloaded the ISO to install from it, since I have multiple BootCamps. If you use it to upgrade Windows 7 or 8 that are properly licensed, automatic activation also works from the ISO. It still takes some time. I have spent the afternoon upgrading two machines from the ISO DVD mainly spent waiting. I also backed up the original partition using WinClone.
Will be waiting for your report ... my cMP 5.1 with Windows 8.1 SSD on DUO x2 PCI card is the next machine to try to update.
I wonder what is installed for us in the future with MS Windows 10???
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/201...-your-bandwidth-to-send-other-people-updates/
Cheers
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/201...-your-bandwidth-to-send-other-people-updates/
Cheers
I will give my impressions of Windows 10!
Tried Home and Pro on 3 different machines.
1) 2 yr old notebook-FAIL BUGGY
2) 2 yr old PC w/i5 and 12 g memory-FAIL BUGGY
3) Mid 2011 Imac w/ 12 g memory under OS X 10.10.4, Parallels 10-FAIL SAME BUGS
Rather than go into great detail, It ran slow as Sh**, where w7 runs fast!
Disk access was slow, and the new browser, EDGE, was fast but a royal pain, waiting for pages to finish loading to use it!
Many "features are "hidden" and you must use the search bar to get to them, including most control panel settings!
In each case, I reverted back to W7!
OS X 10.10.4 runs great here BTW!
Well I finally got fed up with the 80240020 Windows Update errors on my windows 7 and used MSFT's 64bit download tool that's linked in this thread and chose to upgrade (didn't have to get any ISO or burn any DVD etc..), and it worked great.
Took a little while to complete the install but it went flawlessly on this unsupported mac (24" iMac from 2009). It's running great and it's an activated copy of W10 Pro 64 bit without having to enter any keys.
Surprisingly I didn't have to re-install BootCamp5 drivers, sound and wireless all worked but the keyboard controls for screen brightness and volume weren't working so I did a repair install of BootCamp5 and now everything is working.
The only thing is that my bootcamp partition is all but used up with temporary install files and "previous windows installation" etc... I'm guessing a windows 7 image? Did a disk cleanup, got a warning that I won't be able to restore to the previous install and now it's back to normal.
IMO It's running great on this old machine but now to learn the Windows 8/10 style, as I'm a 7 user. Everything is either moved or changed appearance or something, I gotta find some basic tutorial for the transition.
Took a little while to complete the install but it went flawlessly on this unsupported mac (24" iMac from 2009). It's running great and it's an activated copy of W10 Pro 64 bit without having to enter any keys.
Surprisingly I didn't have to re-install BootCamp5 drivers, sound and wireless all worked but the keyboard controls for screen brightness and volume weren't working so I did a repair install of BootCamp5 and now everything is working.
The only thing is that my bootcamp partition is all but used up with temporary install files and "previous windows installation" etc... I'm guessing a windows 7 image? Did a disk cleanup, got a warning that I won't be able to restore to the previous install and now it's back to normal.
IMO It's running great on this old machine but now to learn the Windows 8/10 style, as I'm a 7 user. Everything is either moved or changed appearance or something, I gotta find some basic tutorial for the transition.
AWESOME to know, thank you!!! I was just notified yesterday that my download/upgrade from 8.1 to 10 is ready. I was afraid to upgrade based on a fear of losing programs, documents, pictures and so much more. Thanks so much for sharing, I'm excited about the new GUI. From what I understand, which isn't much yet - I'm a learn by "hands on" type of person ... that it has the interaction of windows 8 - but with more user control as the prior versions used to have - basically going in reverse with an upgraded model? The entire windows 8 scenario was very frustrating to me - I didn't need or want my computer to look like or act like my phone or a tablet. And, I'm technically savvy enough to become very frustrated by an OS that won't let me have complete control over it and/or makes me play hide and go seek to find what I'm looking for lol. I'm excited about the new OS - thank you again for putting my fear of losing my data to rest --- now I can upgrade.
I've been stuck with windows 8 and 8.1 since I bought my newer laptop a few years ago - they simply weren't selling any new computers with older windows versions, so believe me I understand. However, I just wanted you to know, that even with the mess of a horror of windows 8 (just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions hehe), you can, pretty close anyway, make it perform and/or feel more like the older versions of windows. I don't use the apps other than the calendar and weather app at all, and I, by fooling around on my own for a few days when I got it, figured out how to have it start with a desktop look and feel, not the apps, and how to get all the shortcuts on my desktop (as in older versions), as well as on my taskbar (as in the older versions). Fret not - you'll figure it out quickly, I did. I'm assuming that 10 gives us back a lot of the look, feel and functionality (or ease in finding and controlling things) that we had before this awful intro into to "APP" OS (windows 8), so I'm excited. Now that I've read everyone saying they didn't lose any of their data, docs, pics, settings, programs, etc, I'm ready to install. Best wishes to you!!!
I downloaded the ISO, from the MS link provided here on MR, just to be sure and trial-and-error another "route du soleil"
Why the h*ll is MS so picky in this stage? My original OEM is DUTCH, that I changed to English because I use a lot of English forums and that I need the English package for Voice Recognition in my flight sim.
UPDATE: Downloading Windows 10 Dutch.....
Cheers
Why the h*ll is MS so picky in this stage? My original OEM is DUTCH, that I changed to English because I use a lot of English forums and that I need the English package for Voice Recognition in my flight sim.
UPDATE: Downloading Windows 10 Dutch.....
Cheers
No luck atm either with the Dutch ISO in my config:
I got a never seen (by me) bootscreen:
and after that I got:
Moving bootable hardware tomorrow. Strange upgrade routine by MS....
Cheers
BTW need some serious monitor cleaning to do also
I got a never seen (by me) bootscreen:
and after that I got:
Moving bootable hardware tomorrow. Strange upgrade routine by MS....
Cheers
BTW need some serious monitor cleaning to do also
Tried the ISO method to upgrade but it failed. Not sure if I got the right ISO file to tell you the truth. If anyone can point me to the right ISO for someone w/ a legal copy of Windows 7 Home Premium, that would be great.
I tried the windows 10 media tool or whatever its called and that didn't work as well.
I tried the windows 10 media tool or whatever its called and that didn't work as well.
I've been stuck with windows 8 and 8.1 since I bought my newer laptop a few years ago - they simply weren't selling any new computers with older windows versions, so believe me I understand. However, I just wanted you to know, that even with the mess of a horror of windows 8 (just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions hehe), you can, pretty close anyway, make it perform and/or feel more like the older versions of windows. I don't use the apps other than the calendar and weather app at all, and I, by fooling around on my own for a few days when I got it, figured out how to have it start with a desktop look and feel, not the apps, and how to get all the shortcuts on my desktop (as in older versions), as well as on my taskbar (as in the older versions). Fret not - you'll figure it out quickly, I did. I'm assuming that 10 gives us back a lot of the look, feel and functionality (or ease in finding and controlling things) that we had before this awful intro into to "APP" OS (windows 8), so I'm excited. Now that I've read everyone saying they didn't lose any of their data, docs, pics, settings, programs, etc, I'm ready to install. Best wishes to you!!!
Being stuck with 8/8.1 may not have been a bad thing; your transition to 10 should be painless. I was so comfortable with 7 and I never really used 8, I now feel a bit like a fish out of water using 10. I can't seem to find anything, I'm using the search box a lot (it's really handy) and Cortana for some things. I'm sure in a few days I'll be a lot more comfortable.
I wish the Edge browser had some ad-block extension, I can't seem to find any. Hopefully that'll come soon.
I don't think I'm going to bother doing a clean install anytime soon, but in the future if I do I was thinking I should somehow try to extract my key - I see my product ID under windows activation status but not an actual key.
Overall I'm rather surprised at how well this thing is running on this old iMac. Everything is working as it should, even my old wireless MX870 MFD.
I read somewhere that in Windows 10 we can now view and do basic editing of office documents by default without having the actual Office suite, wonder if that's actually true?
I just used the media tool method (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10) and selected the upgrade option and just followed the steps, it took a while to complete but went flawlessly. I guess the only thing one needs to worry about is whether to select 32 or 64 bit. My windows 7 was 64 so I just selected the same.