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Windows Vista Beta 1 and Tiger
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dsharits said:Yeah, keep dreaming, PC boy.Windows XP was kicked squarely in the butt by OS X 10.1. Now that they have a new skin and a search function that they bummed off Apple, it's better than 10.4?? Where's the logic in that?
Oh wait, you'll have to tell me after your finished with your virus updates and your reboot.
haha, tell 'em dsharits.
AP_piano295 said:
2 ways to do this.
1. quote the whole thing and delete the parts you don't want...
2. use the [ quote="randomname" ] and [ /quote ] tags to sandwitch anything you want. For instance
AP_piano295 said:
When you click the quote button at the bottom of the post, it will give you a new post window, and you simply delete the part of the post that you don't want in between the [ QUOTE ] and [ /QUOTE ].AP_piano295 said:
EDIT: Darn it, you beat me.
Just doin my job.outerspaceapple said:
LaughingMan11 said:
You misunderstand, im not coming from a security standpoint, im coming from the fact that it is not in the vested interest of most hackers to go after an OS that has only about 5% market share. I know that UNIX is far more secure then Windows will ever be. But throught the use of virus scanners, spyware removers and other programs, it is possible to have a Windows computer that is devoid of malware. I know becuase I managed to do that for an entire school year. I was just saying that if the market share roles were reversed, Apple would be the target of more code-slingers like Microsoft is right now. It is simple logic when you assume these people want to do as much damage as they possibley can, so naturally they attack the big guy. Thats all i was trying to say. Heck, im getting an iBook, its in the mail right now. Hows that for touting Microsoft as better than Apple? They both have their weaknesses and both have their strengths.
While reading this paragraph at every turn I kept falling out of my chair with peels of laughter. Who writes this guy's material? He's HYSTERICAL! He should go on the comedy club circuit. The "new level of confidence..." ow ow, my side is splitting... RLMAO!!!!
AP_piano295 said:
...like that.
(to break it down for you: you use your delete key to delete the parts of the post you don't want)
I'll admit guys.
I've been a windows user for a very long time.
If the price is right when the macintels come out, it will be my first mac.
I'm sick and tired of windows.
I'm also sick and tired of hearing users complain about viruses/spyware/adware (even though they are partially to blame by going to every website known to man).
If and when I get a mac, I refuse to get MS Office.
From what I've seen on Apple's website, Pages and Keynote looks nice.
I guess I'm just tired buying their expensive software when everyone else's is cheaper. Normally, I'm on Microsoft's side.
I've been a windows user for a very long time.
If the price is right when the macintels come out, it will be my first mac.
I'm sick and tired of windows.
I'm also sick and tired of hearing users complain about viruses/spyware/adware (even though they are partially to blame by going to every website known to man).
If and when I get a mac, I refuse to get MS Office.
From what I've seen on Apple's website, Pages and Keynote looks nice.
I guess I'm just tired buying their expensive software when everyone else's is cheaper. Normally, I'm on Microsoft's side.
As horrible as it is to admit it, my office computer's currently downloading Vista from my MSDN subscription (paid for by work, don't worry, i wouldn't myself in a million years!), to test it.
I work in the IT Training field, and was intrigued by the imaged based installations Vista will be using from beta 1 onwards - meaning creating these annoying as hell MS technical courses will become soooooooooooo quick and easy, instead of the week it takes to build a course that only takes a week to teach (!).
from that point of view it will be great, cause it's guaranteed to make my life at least a little bit easier. but from the other POV, the fact that i'm a mac person? i couldn't give a flying crap.
if vista doesn't improve my productivity slightly above the ***** line, i'm going to quit my job.
seriously.
I work in the IT Training field, and was intrigued by the imaged based installations Vista will be using from beta 1 onwards - meaning creating these annoying as hell MS technical courses will become soooooooooooo quick and easy, instead of the week it takes to build a course that only takes a week to teach (!).
from that point of view it will be great, cause it's guaranteed to make my life at least a little bit easier. but from the other POV, the fact that i'm a mac person? i couldn't give a flying crap.
if vista doesn't improve my productivity slightly above the ***** line, i'm going to quit my job.
seriously.
Kicked in the butt by OS X 10.1. How so. In using both XP and OS X, I say that OS is a personal choice. If u know how to set up firewalls and antispyware protection on, I dont see much of a difference. I'm running Panther and I dont see think that it's any better than XP. **shugz** Just my .02
dsharits said:Yeah, keep dreaming, PC boy.
Oh wait, you'll have to tell me after you've finished your virus updates and your reboot.
yeah, but MS rocks!
you can talk all you want, but that doesn't change the dynamics of the market. plain and simple, MS is superior, and businesses know it. follow the dollars and you'll see where your wrong.
P.S. I never said anything about TECHNICAL superiority, did I!
Mavimao said:
you can talk all you want, but that doesn't change the dynamics of the market. plain and simple, MS is superior, and businesses know it. follow the dollars and you'll see where your wrong.
P.S. I never said anything about TECHNICAL superiority, did I!
while I'm at it...
I should also mention that MS has a sweet position. all they have to do is steal apples ideas, and provide them to the masses. They don't even have to innovate anymore, just copy. no one else besides us nerds really notice this or even care.
As I said, MS rocks!
myapplseedshurt said:
I should also mention that MS has a sweet position. all they have to do is steal apples ideas, and provide them to the masses. They don't even have to innovate anymore, just copy. no one else besides us nerds really notice this or even care.
As I said, MS rocks!
MacHamman said:
They would be the target, but the hackers would not have the same level of success as they do with Microsoft. We just don't know how sucessful they would be on the Mac because your situation is completely hypothetical.
My point is that it's useless to state what you did initially. It's obvious, and it's been beaten to death. You can't make any conclusions based on a hypothetical situation.
pcdoctor said:
Refusing to get MS Office for Mac is probably an unnecessary move, not to mention self-hindering (depending on your line of work)
Microsoft's Mac Business Unit is actually a decent software comapany. MS Office for Mac shares no code with its Windows counterpart (anymore) and has been touted (by MS higher-ups) as being SUPERIOR to the Win version.
You're not "Teaching MS a lesson" by refusing to buy their products for Mac, just hindering yourself and discouraging MS from continuing to make/support Mac apps...and that's a bad thing.
myapplseedshurt said:I should also mention that MS has a sweet position. all they have to do is steal apples ideas, and provide them to the masses. They don't even have to innovate anymore, just copy. no one else besides us nerds really notice this or even care.
As I said, MS rocks!
By all accounts they are losing share to Linux and Mac OS X. On the browser front, Firefox is making huge progress, pushing MS to less than 90% share, and dropping rapidly. All of this is made possible because normal people are starting to catch wind that Microsoft really is this slimy company that obviously you describe, and their products are second rate.
Too Early
I think it is too early to tell whether this will truly be a significant update to XP or not. I think that, to a certain extent, Microsoft is doing their best to combat a growing security problem. I'm amused that almost all the features that were listed are available now on the Mac! I'm also certain that the upgrades for the OS will be north of $200 for individual licenses.
I would be interested in knowing whether, like Apple, Microsoft will finally produce an OS that runs faster on existing hardware or whether we're all going to have to upgrade to 5GHz Dual-Core chips just to see some decent speed. My PB G4 550 is still faster at waking up from sleeping than any of the best-breed Windows desktops/laptops I've seen. It would be nice for the 90%+ people that do nothing more with their computers than compose email, play music/video, and run Word occasionally to not have to upgrade their systems to mammoth proportions just to be able to do those things in Vista. Well, I'm doubtful that will be realized, but, hopefully there will be at least some improvement for once. Though, typically, when something isn't mentioned, it means that it has not even been considered, so, good luck on the upgrades!
I think it is too early to tell whether this will truly be a significant update to XP or not. I think that, to a certain extent, Microsoft is doing their best to combat a growing security problem. I'm amused that almost all the features that were listed are available now on the Mac! I'm also certain that the upgrades for the OS will be north of $200 for individual licenses.
I would be interested in knowing whether, like Apple, Microsoft will finally produce an OS that runs faster on existing hardware or whether we're all going to have to upgrade to 5GHz Dual-Core chips just to see some decent speed. My PB G4 550 is still faster at waking up from sleeping than any of the best-breed Windows desktops/laptops I've seen. It would be nice for the 90%+ people that do nothing more with their computers than compose email, play music/video, and run Word occasionally to not have to upgrade their systems to mammoth proportions just to be able to do those things in Vista. Well, I'm doubtful that will be realized, but, hopefully there will be at least some improvement for once. Though, typically, when something isn't mentioned, it means that it has not even been considered, so, good luck on the upgrades!
LaughingMan11 said:
I wouldn't even bother with the guy. It's pretty clear what his intentions are here.
budugu said:
i had to log in from work just to respond to this rediculous statement.
people buy macs for the superior (at the moment) os. its easy to maintain and get things done. it organizes information in a sensical easily readable manner.
my girlfriend never got things done on her PC. she hates windows. i got her a mac and now she uses her computer with no problem. things work. she doesnt have to trouble shoot the freaken OS. THATS why people buy macs.
their is life beyond your perspective.
nichos said:
Wow, that UI for the taskbar is like they took the Tiger "milk" menu bar, painted it black, and flipped it to the lower part of the screen. How original. I'm convinced the XP UI was designed by Fisher Price
Although Microsoft says that virus and spyware prevention will be better with Vista, Vista will probably contain spyware from the very beginning.