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Windows XP Booting on Intel Macs?

Spanky Deluxe said:
This is sooo cool. It does appear to be genuine, the video looks very real indeed and would be hard to fake, very hard in fact.

http://www.vimeo.com/clip=54706

This is fantastic news for gaming on Macs if nothing else. :-D
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As a pompous windbag, I know more than most when it comes to Photoshop, and I'm telling you, this is a fake.

1. Normal JPEGs don't move around. Clearly evidence that this has been "manipulated".
2. I noticed some blur in the top right hand corner. The smoking gun, perhaps?
3. The headers do not include "EasyCam Pro" and "(C) Hotbabes Inc" like proper JPEGs I have on my hard drive contain.
4. 20 seconds into the clip, you can just see a glimpse of the room this so-called "video" was shot in. Do I spy elevator doors? It appears to be silvery, or perhaps white, or possibly multicoloured, in the background, and you can just make out a line, which is clearly the gap between two silvery, or white, or possibly multicoloured, doors.

Furthermore, it strikes me as perfectly obvious that Apple would never allow XP to run on their machines. Proof positive was at the last developers conference, when one Apple boss said "Go ahead, it's fine by us, if you want to do it, just do it, we're groovy with that, man." This, as most long-time Apple watchers know, is completely out of character and therefore must have been sarcastic. Furthermore, Apple would lose sales if people could just run around installing XP on their Macs because, er, it would undermine the brand or something. Most people buy Macs for the full wallet experience, where customers have the simplicity of knowing that they can get an Apple mouse, an Apple operating system, an Apple MP3 player, and it will just work the money out of your wallet like that. It would destroy Apple completely if people bought Macs and then spent $200 on an operating system from Microsoft.

Plus, why does nobody ever ask or answer the question: if I have a Mac, why on earth would I want to run Winblow$?

(Seriously, I hope the clip's real. It will add value to the Mac both to potential switchers who want the security of the option to be able to switch back to Windows if OS X doesn't work for them (spending $1,500 on a new computer is a big leap, and it becomes a leap of faith if it's something you're completely unfamiliar with), and will provide a better solution than virtualization or Xen-like CPU virtual partitioning, for those who need to run Windows for certain apps not available for OS X from time to time.

Now me? I would personally like OS X on white-box PCs, even if I have to self-support it, but then I guess the fact I, and a lot of others, want it is precisely why Apple will not do it, at least, any time soon. Still, if they want to figure out their profit margin on an iMac and then sell it for that plus $130, that might work out for everyone...)
 
peharri said:
Plus, why does nobody ever ask or answer the question: if I have a Mac, why on earth would I want to run Winblow$?
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Uh, every Mac zealot has said that at least fifty times now. I don't see why running Windows on a Mac would be bad as it doesn't hurt anything.
 
IJ Reilly said:
Why do people go to so much trouble to create and circulate hoax images of future Apple products when they've got nothing to gain but stirring up some excitement? Might it be some people's definition of fun?

Further, why post such crude photos as proof, when a goodly sum of prize money is at stake?
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Because then you'd say "It looks too good to be real, it must be fake!!1!"

BTW I don't believe that the image in the last picture is floating - that effect is caused by the shadow and color of the black LCD panel to the iMac's immediate right.

They may very well be fake, but I don't think that's the reason why.
 
I would [install Windows on my Mac]. As many other users.

Windows may suck as much as you want, but there's still no Autocad without Windows, right? Apply that to the other ten apps I'd have to depend on that are Windows-exclusive, and you get why it is of vital importance that the new Mac-Intels can run Windows natively.

Currently I own a late 2003 G4 iBook and a G5 Rev. B iMac. I'm not thinking of replacing any of those anytime soon. But in a year's time I'll be very interested in getting a new laptop. Shall the new MacBook be able to run Windows, there'll be no doubt on what my new laptop will be. But given that I already own two Mac systems, I might get a Sony or Asus laptop instead of an iBook - MacBook- Whatever if that's what I need to run Windows applications natively.

It is just that there are hundreds of people that actually need their computer to make a living from using them. And many of those just need to run Windows or Windows apps natively. Wether you are able to understand it or not is up to you, I guess. ;)
 
Why is everybody answering the same question in the same arrogant way?

Some people want Windows for exclusive programs and games. Despite some programs being "better", some people actually need to use those Windows programs for work.

It's not like they plan to use XP as their main OS... thats just obscene.
 
BRLawyer said:
Yes, but just to answer it again: No one would want Windows on a Mac...Windows plain sucks.
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You are absolutely right! windows sucks.

But many of the applications that run ONLY on Windows DO NOT.

Many of us use our computers for work, and unfortunate as it may be, we require windows to run programs...

Until Apple finds some way to address this problem windows will always be indispensable.
 
mulletman13 said:
Why is everybody answering the same question in the same arrogant way?

Some people want Windows for exclusive programs and games. Despite some programs being "better", some people actually need to use those Windows programs for work.

It's not like they plan to use XP as their main OS... thats just obscene.
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Well said Squire ! I have at least 3 mates now that will be much more comfortable making the switch, they love what i do on my Mac and everything Apple does, but they also LOVE gaming and hate consoles... this opens up a great option for them !

Personally, the only reason i would install it on my new MBP would be so that when a friendly Windows user starts slagging the compatability of Mac/OSX i can boot Windows and really get 1up :)
 
But in that case you'd be conceding that Mac OS X is not compatible... when the real thing is that Microsoft is the one that does not follow standards and tries to close their formats from the rest of the world.

Whatever, I'd rather be able to run Windows natively than not. I looooove Mac OS X, but, as Steve would say, "we like choice". ;)
 
mulletman13 said:
Why is everybody answering the same question in the same arrogant way?

Some people want Windows for exclusive programs and games. Despite some programs being "better", some people actually need to use those Windows programs for work.

It's not like they plan to use XP as their main OS... thats just obscene.
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I agree.

I'm confused though as to why everyone's jumped into the middle of my post and jumped on that statement rather than all the others. Were MR readers seriously nodding their heads as they read about JPEGs in motion and elevator doors?
 
Fry's & CompUSA Ad - "FREE (or $99) Windows Vista With Any Mac System Purchase"

Yes, once this is realized, I'm sure Fry's & CompUSA won't hesitate to give away Vista from time to time with the higher profit Macs to bring home the point that FINALLY Macs run Windows natively. :D

I always thought some clever code warriors would figure out how to install & run Windows, and more importantly Vista too, on MacIntels. I wasn't believing the lately naysayers. Glad to see the effort is coming to fruition. Love you guys and gals. I'm sure Apple won't mind a bit. I can see the copies of Vista gracing the Apple Store shelves as soon as it ships. :D :) :p ;)
 
roxnadz said:
Because then you'd say "It looks too good to be real, it must be fake!!1!"
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That's your assumption, but it's incorrect. Poor evidence is poor evidence, and solid evidence is solid evidence. The video seems to be the latter. But I'm still wondering why this genius hasn't stepped forward to claim his prize money. Isn't anyone else also wondering?
 
gedto said:
I would [install Windows on my Mac]. As many other users.

Windows may suck as much as you want, but there's still no Autocad without Windows, right? Apply that to the other ten apps I'd have to depend on that are Windows-exclusive, and you get why it is of vital importance that the new Mac-Intels can run Windows natively.

Currently I own a late 2003 G4 iBook and a G5 Rev. B iMac. I'm not thinking of replacing any of those anytime soon. But in a year's time I'll be very interested in getting a new laptop. Shall the new MacBook be able to run Windows, there'll be no doubt on what my new laptop will be. But given that I already own two Mac systems, I might get a Sony or Asus laptop instead of an iBook - MacBook- Whatever if that's what I need to run Windows applications natively.

It is just that there are hundreds of people that actually need their computer to make a living from using them. And many of those just need to run Windows or Windows apps natively. Wether you are able to understand it or not is up to you, I guess. ;)
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Sorry dear Spaniard, but the fact that AutoCAD doesn't run on Macs will NOT be helped when you start running Windows on your shiny Apple box. In an indirect manner, the message you send to developers is: "Oh, relax man, you don't have to develop a Mac version anymore, I do Windows too!!"...so the switcher phenomenon will mean CRAP in a flick of market switch.

And in case Apple EVER supports Winblows, this will be, along with a plethora of support problems and queries to the company, the demise of OS X as we know it, trust me...Apple will end up losing its competitive edge, because the appeal to port and develop specifically to OS X will be LOST.

To all those who believe the contrary effect will occur: WAKE UP, please; if I am a software company and I know Macs run Windows flawlessly, I will not spend a PENNY porting lengthy codes to XCode/Intel Macs, just like Autodesk for you PC-loving guys...and that's exactly what we should change...attract more people to Macs, and MAKE developers do some real work, instead of the opposite.
 
yes ofcourse, if this works, osx will forever be ruined. apple will go bankrupt and microsoft will own the world.
 
correct me if i'm wrong, but in the video is window's xp running of an external harddrive?


do you think it would require the use of an external formatted in FAT32?



appologize for my ignorance... i want this yesterday.


r.


p.s. i have enough faith in apple's hardware and software design to believe that this will not do"the opposite". everyone, programmers, executives, financial officers, want their computer to work well. nieve? who would pay $400 dollars for a music player that can only hold 1000 songs?
 
peharri said:
As a pompous windbag, I know more than most when it comes to Photoshop, and I'm telling you, this is a fake.
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LOL this is a great post! Even better that some took it seriously. :D Really, we all need to relax a little around here.

Time will tell if this is a fake. Personally, I think Narf's "The Man."
 
I don't think so

BRLawyer said:
Sorry dear Spaniard, but the fact that AutoCAD doesn't run on Macs will NOT be helped when you start running Windows on your shiny Apple box. In an indirect manner, the message you send to developers is: "Oh, relax man, you don't have to develop a Mac version anymore, I do Windows too!!"...so the switcher phenomenon will mean CRAP in a flick of market switch.

And in case Apple EVER supports Winblows, this will be, along with a plethora of support problems and queries to the company, the demise of OS X as we know it, trust me...Apple will end up losing its competitive edge, because the appeal to port and develop specifically to OS X will be LOST.

To all those who believe the contrary effect will occur: WAKE UP, please; if I am a software company and I know Macs run Windows flawlessly, I will not spend a PENNY porting lengthy codes to XCode/Intel Macs, just like Autodesk for you PC-loving guys...and that's exactly what we should change...attract more people to Macs, and MAKE developers do some real work, instead of the opposite.
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You worry too much. Think about it. If developers had that attitute when OSX came out, then we'd all still be running Classic apps (well, those of us without Intel Macs, that is :D ). By your reasoning, the developers never would have bothered to make OS X native versions of their apps.

Really, any developer whose commitment to the Mac is so weak that they'd offer booting to Windows to customers as a solution is not a Mac developer. There are a lot of reasons not to be a Mac developer, so those that are tend to be pretty commited.
 
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