Where you are and and what time isn't personal information? Ok thanks for clearing that up
Indeed it is, though Steve says that they do not have access to that information.
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Wired: iPhones Send Your Location Data to Apple Every 12 Hours
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Indeed it is, though Steve says that they do not have access to that information.
This is now a plus for law enforcement, why?
If someone is arrested for any reason falsely or legit and has an iPhone. A warrant can be issued and all stored data local or with Apple can be investigated.
I don't remember giving Apple permission to do this as I'm sure no one here has either.
If someone is arrested for any reason falsely or legit and has an iPhone. A warrant can be issued and all stored data local or with Apple can be investigated.
I don't remember giving Apple permission to do this as I'm sure no one here has either.
Has anyone read kdarling's post? He's in the business and knows what he's talking about!
Computers are seized and data extracted all the time. With a search warrant anyone's personal property computer included can be confiscated.
Apple may not have access to any information but this opened the door for misuse of a users data. Thanks Apple!!!
Computers are seized and data extracted all the time. With a search warrant anyone's personal property computer included can be confiscated.
Apple may not have access to any information but the opened the door for misuse of a users data. Thanks Apple!!!
So yesterday you knew AT&T had this data. Today you think AT&T and Apple have this data.
This changes things...how, exactly? Did you think the cops wouldn't have thought about asking AT&T?
There is a difference between quoting something and it being fact. Just because I quote something from Apple doesn't mean I'm a gullible sheep and believe everything they say. Remember how Steve Jobs and Apple claim that there is no antennae issue? Don't believe everything you hear, question it. This isn't ScientologyRumors.
Oh, why don't we just give our location history to every freaking company then for them to log for all time? You make many logical fallacies in your arguments. Apple is an ad company. They don't use the location data for your altruistic benefits as you so claim to give us better GPS. They use it to sell ads and sell your information.
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AT&T doesn't have my geo-location just phone records, we all know that.
My stored location data that I didn't give Apple permission to do can now be used against me.
Funny how you keep calling me a gullible sheep when you have no idea what my opinion is on the matter.
Perhaps you should do more reading before resorting to silly name-calling. Otherwise you're liable to say things that make no sense.
I believe SomeDudeAsking will now be calling YOU a gullible sheep for this comment.
I never said I trusted Steve Jobs. You've just come out and said you trust AT&T (of all companies). I'm assuming this is exactly the sort of 'gullible' you were both talking about a minute ago.
Read the article, the iPhone still logs your location and sends it to Apple even if you've disabled all location services.
Android sends data back few times PER HOUR.
Apple does not
The location data SAVED ON YOUR OWN DEVICE, and not access by Apple is by cell tower only. It's not GPS and it cannot show what building you are in.
AT&T has more information than Apple, and they are the ones that Law Enforment will go to for the records.
You're an idiot if you don't think the cell companies have your location all the time!
How else would they send calls to your phone, regardless of brand and smartphone VS dumbphone.
I think I would trust Apple with this information more than an advertising company that makes 95% of it's revenue from ads aka Google.
i think if you own a smartphone or some other pieces of technology these days and you don't think that some company is collecting geo-data or other info about you with you knowing, i think you are completely naive.
there are legit reasons why Apple/ATT needs to collect location based data though...if you don't think so you should educate yourself on how a cell-based communication network actually functions.
there are legit reasons why Apple/ATT needs to collect location based data though...if you don't think so you should educate yourself on how a cell-based communication network actually functions.
I'm questioning the severity of this whole thing. Are people making this a bigger deal than it is? Possibly. All computers and devices find out where you are located. EX ads on computers; "Find local singles in Lakewood, Colorado!" or on iAds, "Check out Denver daily deals!" The location info going back to Apple could just be what kind of local iAds were viewed.
That's just my 2 cents on what I think this whole thing is about.
That's just my 2 cents on what I think this whole thing is about.
Apple doesn't run the cell phone network and has no fundamental need for my entire location history. AT&T does need my location to connect me to the right towers. Also, Apple is an ad company that sells ads. Your location, they sell it.
Totally wrong. Apple logs and sends your entire location history irrespective of whether you view ads.
Apple is being sued.....good!
http://www.9to5mac.com/63695/apple-...computer-fraud-over-iphone-location-tracking/
http://www.9to5mac.com/63695/apple-...computer-fraud-over-iphone-location-tracking/
Thought this was to do with assisted GPS as gps on phones is rubbish when you have no network signal and agps stores the information for quicker access also uploads the locations to help others with agps
-By helping obtain a faster "time to first fix" (TTFF). A-GPS acquires and stores information about the location of satellites via the cellular network (see almanac) so the information does not need to be downloaded via satellite.
A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for aGPS information. If it also has functioning autonomous GPS, it may use standalone GPS, which is sometimes slower on time to first fix, but does not depend on the network, and therefore can work beyond network range, and without incurring data usage fees.[3] Some aGPS devices do not have the option of falling back to standalone or autonomous GPS.
-By helping obtain a faster "time to first fix" (TTFF). A-GPS acquires and stores information about the location of satellites via the cellular network (see almanac) so the information does not need to be downloaded via satellite.
A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for aGPS information. If it also has functioning autonomous GPS, it may use standalone GPS, which is sometimes slower on time to first fix, but does not depend on the network, and therefore can work beyond network range, and without incurring data usage fees.[3] Some aGPS devices do not have the option of falling back to standalone or autonomous GPS.
Also remember agps when it was n95 and found this
How can Helio do it so quickly, yet Nokia can’t? Helio knows the exact coordinates of all their (Sprint’s) cellphone towers. Nokia doesn’t have that luxury, but this is where users like Ricky and other N95 owners come in. Now this is just a theory, but I think that once the GPS finds your location it scans for nearby cellphone towers. This information is then sent to Nokia’s central database where they are slowly, but surely, creating a map of cell towers all around the world.
AGPS used to be something that was operator dependent, now Nokia might be turning the tables and making it hardware vendor dependent as well. What can Nokia do with this database? Lisence it and make money.
Maybe apple doing same to help with a possible future satnav release like nokia maps
How can Helio do it so quickly, yet Nokia can’t? Helio knows the exact coordinates of all their (Sprint’s) cellphone towers. Nokia doesn’t have that luxury, but this is where users like Ricky and other N95 owners come in. Now this is just a theory, but I think that once the GPS finds your location it scans for nearby cellphone towers. This information is then sent to Nokia’s central database where they are slowly, but surely, creating a map of cell towers all around the world.
AGPS used to be something that was operator dependent, now Nokia might be turning the tables and making it hardware vendor dependent as well. What can Nokia do with this database? Lisence it and make money.
Maybe apple doing same to help with a possible future satnav release like nokia maps
Lol i'm sure if your at a location at the same time as a murder you probably will get questioned by the police, don't think it will be because you have a iphone though.
Do people get convicted by false DNA tests . DNA testing is 99.9% accurate.
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The frequency of transmission of new sites isn't that important.
I thought it included WiFi hotspots as well.
True. That is, unless it's a hotspot instead of a cell.
They only have a rough idea. The carrier only records if you're talking to a cell or cells. And even that information requires a court order to get from the carrier.
Apple sells iAds using just as much selection criteria as Google; perhaps more because they know what you bought via iTunes.
Sure, that's exactly what Google did years ago with Maps, and it's exactly what Apple is doing now when location services are used.
Google and Apple and Skyhook are not the first to do this, btw. Where do you think they got the idea? Yep, open source projects that preceded them.
