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macrumors regular
Jun 20, 2016
If they go portless they better include a wireless charger, there is no chance whatsoever im gonna go buy a phone and then buy a wireless charger, If this is true I guess I will keep my iphone 11 forever now
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macrumors 6502
Oct 20, 2014
OK, so now we have a future where billions of mobile phones charge inefficiently with wireless chargers (which are wired, duh), just to save us from plugging in our device?
There are inefficiencies with all energy consumption. We need to focus both on how energy is consumed and created. We need to push for renewable energies and get off of any energy that is causing harm to the environment.
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macrumors 601
Feb 24, 2009
You don't have to buy a new car to convert to wireless carplay. There are lots of dongle adapter on the market search Carlinkit. I have one it works fine wirelessly, doesn't drain that much battery either. lol you guys are really fake news.
Hacks are not a viable solution. Carlinkit is trash for many vehicles.

If Apple released a 1st party solution I would have no problem with removing the port.


macrumors 68020
Oct 31, 2010
CarPlay Wireless is nice but it does eat battery. Need to have it on the charger if you don't want to be significantly drained by the time you get to your destination.
I have been using Wireless CarPlay for a few years now (2-3?) and I never experienced any significant drain for short grocery trips or 30ish round trip (= 1 hour total) to college. On long drives, obviously yes, but you would want to plug it in because you aren't going anywhere.


Jul 12, 2016
Lets simplify the reality of This, a portless iPhone is definitely in Apples plan at some point, given there are many obvious reasons why. However, next year? Won’t happen. That’s way too soon of a change, given wireless CarPlay is just now becoming more main stream in newer vehicles.


macrumors 6502
Nov 10, 2012
Port Orchard, WA
You don't have to buy a new car to convert to wireless carplay. There are lots of dongle adapter on the market search Carlinkit. I have one it works fine wirelessly, doesn't drain that much battery either. lol you guys are really fake news.
Unless that dongle adapter is made by Apple, it can become a useless brick with an iOS update in the future.


macrumors regular
Dec 30, 2001
New York, NY
Personally, I'd be fine or even happy with this - IF Apple and/or 3rd parties can offer a single device that serves as a MagSafe charger and a Wireless CarPlay adapter (for my wired-only CarPlay vehicle).

NOT ok with it if it requires multiple devices or costs more than $149.
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Mar 15, 2018
A portless iphone is a dumb idea. Folks aren't going to go buy a new car just because the new iphone has no ports. What's going to happen is that people will pass on the new phone.
Hahaha. No they won’t, but anyway I doubt iPhone will become portless any time soon.
Just hope Mercedes allows for wireless CarPlay soon... they want to push their own mbux I guess but it’s ridiculous to have a charging mat and all packages but I have to plug in my phone every times


macrumors 6502
Apr 14, 2008
Indianapolis, IN
Portless would be a pain, especially since I'm at least several years away from a new vehicle. I currently use one of those Belkin adapters to plug power and an aux cable into my iPhone to listen to podcasts etc. I'm not sure that I'd enjoy using a bluetooth adapter for that. So unless Apple/Belkin were to come up with a different style of adapter/splitter for that, no thanks.
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macrumors regular
Sep 7, 2005
Western North Carolina
Honestly, I believe that your post is completely backwards. Most of us are allegiant to the Apple product. I want a portless phone. I want car makers to add Qi charging pads to their console array. Is it a dealbreaker of buying a car that doesn't have wireless carplay...not for me? Would I prefer that the car has it, sure. I find that I rarely use the carplay in its current form because of the cabled mess going from my center array to where I put my phone on the other side of my steering wheel. My phone is easier to use mounted magnetically just above and left of my steering wheel.
You do realize the entire purpose of CarPlay is to *not* have your iPhone mounted anywhere, right? Keep the iPhone in the center console area as it is not something you are supposed to actually use once CarPlay is active. You use the interface on your car to text, navigate, listen to music, make/take phone calls, etc. There is no reason to mount the phone somewhere you need access to, since the display is basically off and you interact with the phone via the car's display.


macrumors regular
Sep 9, 2010
Paris, FR
they will remove lightning first, then the physical sim card, mark my words :D !

They are patiently waiting to get enough eSim adoption from carriers to ditch the slot.
Both measures will free up quite a bunch of internal space (ex. on 12 mini) :


In the end, this means a mix of more/better sensors (persicopic zoom ?) / bigger batteries / smaller footprint ...


macrumors demi-god
Aug 28, 2015
I have bought every single iPhone generation for myself and my wife.

Just bought a new car this year with wired only carplay. If the next iPhone doesn't have a way to connect to my wired carplay unit, I will hold onto my current iPhone for as long as possible.

That or Apple would need to come out with a dongle to allow connectivity.


macrumors 6502
May 30, 2007
My car is supposed to have CarPlay. It’s never worked and doesn’t even show up. Wired or wireless. ??‍♂️
Some radios that support both CarPlay and Android Auto have two USB ports on the back (inside your dash). One only works with CarPlay, and the other only works with Android Auto. I would suggest looking up the manual for your radio and see if that is the case. If they have it plugged into the wrong one in the back, that would explain your issue.


macrumors 603
Aug 20, 2015
They aren't going portless anytime soon. They just introduced fast charging via USB C not too long ago and been using that as a feature.
I hope you're right. CarPlay aside, the absolutely fastest and most reliable way to charge an iPhone is through a cable. And while aggressive techies and fanbois fail to see this, not everyone wants to throw away good headphones just because (gasp!) they have wires attached. There are legit uses for a lightning (or USB-C) port, even if you don't use them every day.

I also question the benefit of this move. iPhones already have very good weather sealing these days, so what would be the point, to save a few cubic millimeters of space inside? To shave a few bucks off the parts list for each new phone?


macrumors 6502
Oct 9, 2007
You don't have to buy a new car to convert to wireless carplay. There are lots of dongle adapter on the market search Carlinkit. I have one it works fine wirelessly, doesn't drain that much battery either. lol you guys are really fake news.
I had one of these adapters as well and it did not work reliably with my car. It was $125 and seemed hacked together. I don’t want to have to spend $250 on a polished Apple that might work when my $15 cable works just fine.

I get that time and technology wait for no one. I have cheered other transitions like the lightning port and even back to the iMac dropping the floppy drive. But those were easy fixes with viable solutions, this seems insurmountable for most people.

I’d love to be wrong, but I think we need a few more years at least before portless is a go.


macrumors regular
Jun 22, 2010
My civic has wired CarPlay and a wireless charger integrated. I ordered the adapter from but it hasn't arrived yet. I definitely think this is going to be a rough transition similar to when they switched from firewire pin out to USB. I remember when I upgraded my phone that year and my head unit didn't work with my iPhone anymore. I'm not overly impressed with the new MagSafe.
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macrumors 68000
Sep 20, 2014
Going portless would be the absolute dumbest thing Apple has done in a long time. Without being able to connect to external devices, how do they expect to get all those amazing "shot on iPhone" videos? The few times I've hooked it to a rig and attached an external mic to record something important, I couldn't imagine the cost and the bulk required to do something similar over a wifi connection. That would truly be the height of stupidity.


macrumors member
Jan 14, 2008
New York, NY
Of course a wired charging connection is going to charge faster, that's not news nor was MagSafe expected to eclipse that. The point is that MagSafe charges faster than existing wireless Qi chargers on the market, which the article you linked to actually shows.
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