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A portless iphone is a dumb idea. Folks aren't going to go buy a new car just because the new iphone has no ports. What's going to happen is that people will pass on the new phone.
Of course they will. You will be able to pick up your Apple car at the Apple store. The Apple car also has no ports and is not serviceable.
 
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Removing the port is bad for so many reasons... travelling - I have a battery pack that I plug into my phone - QI would not work for this at all. Accessories, Square is just one example. Carplay, as has been mentioned - Apple would leave millions out in the cold. Is the port somehow offensive to people? I see no good reason to eliminate the port.
Apple can increase profits by eliminating the port. :mad:
 
I don't think I'd buy a port-less phone. To many places that use wired connections for charging, playing music etc. Gee go to the gym and want to play a movie on the screen - OH can't plug in my phone there so I'll need a dongle. Want to charge my phone on an airplane - get a dongle.
There are times where Apple does things that match an Apple goal but just don't make practical sense.
Maybe the EU will step and and require a port for all the things that need port.
 
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Or I don't know... Maybe buy a Wireless QI charger for the car? I've been using one since the first iPhone that supported Qi came out.
Wireless charger is fine, but that won't solve the lack of CarPlay. I'm not going to replace my year or 2 old $50k truck because Apple left a port off...
 
I will not use Wireless CarPlay until you can connect to it and a Wifi hotspot at the same time. When the iPhone connects to Wireless CarPlay it uses your Wifi connection so you can no longer connect to a hotspot. I have an unlimited hotspot in my car now and a wired CarPlay connection.
 
I think the introduction of "MagSafe" charging in iPhones is just a precursor to a magnetic charger that ALSO carries data. If precise location of the charger is controlled by magnets, some proprietary wireless communication (like NFC but with a higher data rate) could be employed that's nearly as reliable as a wired connection.

Am I the only one that sees this coming?!
 
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I don't remember the last time I plugged in my XS so for me this is no big deal. I understand both sides of the argument for and against port-less iPhones. With regards to CarPlay, I have seen a few video's of adapters that make wired CarPlay vehicles wireless. I'm sure this will become more common if iphones become port-less.
 
I don't remember the last time I plugged in my XS so for me this is no big deal. I understand both sides of the argument for and against port-less iPhones. With regards to CarPlay, I have seen a few video's of adapters that make wired CarPlay vehicles wireless. I'm sure this will become more common if iphones become port-less.
They are all hacks that work poorly for most people. Apple would have to make or license a legitimate device... which I’m really hoping they do.
 
Where I disagree with this is the bedside. My "wireless" stand is sitting right there on my end table. I reach over and set my phone in the cradle...boom, charging. My cable, unless anchored by some clip is down on the floor. reach and find it, make sure the phone is face up, fumble alignment for a second, lay it flat since it cant stand up on its cable... It I wanna read it at 5:30am before the I get up, wife is asleep in dark room, gotta take that light under the covers a bit...cable bent around wrong way, unplug, it falls on floor, rinse repeat. Wireless, for me, is much easier and pads around the home work great for continual charging at desk, kitchen counter etc.
Wired docks eliminate those problems just as well though, and they’ve been around since the very first iPhone.

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Honestly, I believe that your post is completely backwards. Most of us are allegiant to the Apple product. I want a portless phone. I want car makers to add Qi charging pads to their console array. Is it a dealbreaker of buying a car that doesn't have wireless carplay...not for me? Would I prefer that the car has it, sure. I find that I rarely use the carplay in its current form because of the cabled mess going from my center array to where I put my phone on the other side of my steering wheel. My phone is easier to use mounted magnetically just above and left of my steering wheel.
I just paid off my 2017 Honda Accord with WIRED carplay
Since the radio is integrated into the dash, I'm not going to put an aftermarket headunit somewhere in my dash so I can get wireless carplay nor am I going to get another car payment just so I can get wireless carplay with iphone 13.

Plus overzealous police around here will handily give me a ticket if they catch me fiddling around my iphone while driving.
 
Yeah, unless Apple releases a wireless CarPlay adapter for a port-less iPhone, I’ll be buying an iPhone 12 next September.
I’m hoping Apple releases one first, BEFORE the portless phone. That would sell the transition.
That said, I wonder if this would run afoul of their licensing agreements with car and head unit manufacturers? Seems like that would piss a few off, at least in principle if not reality.
 
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I use this adapter, which gives me the option to turn my wired to wireless CarPlay. In the iPhone you will then have two CarPlay profiles, the wired and new wireless profile. Takes a couple of seconds to wirelessly connect once you turn on the stereo.
Do you find it works just as well? I have a 2018 vehicle with OEM wired carplay that I would love to use this adapter on.
 
Yeah, I think I would be out if Apple introduced a portless iPhone next year. I'll just have to keep my iPhone 12 as my 2020 Nissan Altima obviously only supports wired CarPlay. I lease my cars, but I'm certainly not going to run out and lease a new vehicle because the iPhone 13 doesn't have a charging port for me to use CarPlay in my current car.

Let's hope this doesn't happen.
 
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A port-less iPhone would be the end of the road for me. If I’m listening to music, watching videos or making calls, I’m only doing this with wired headphones.

I can’t see it happening but if it does, I’ll be taking my business elsewhere.
 
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Honestly, I believe that your post is completely backwards. Most of us are allegiant to the Apple product. I want a portless phone. I want car makers to add Qi charging pads to their console array. Is it a dealbreaker of buying a car that doesn't have wireless carplay...not for me? Would I prefer that the car has it, sure. I find that I rarely use the carplay in its current form because of the cabled mess going from my center array to where I put my phone on the other side of my steering wheel. My phone is easier to use mounted magnetically just above and left of my steering wheel.

Obviously not having a feature you already don't use won't be a dealbreaker.

For me it definitely was a deal breaker a few years back. I bought a Civic because it had carplay. I was going back and forth between a Mazda 3 and a Civic. I preferred the 3 in many ways, but the lack of Carplay support (at the time) was basically a deal breaker.

Your situation doesn't mirror everyone's. The Civic has a specially designed area for your phone where your phone sits in a grippy, rubber area with cable management channels hiding the cable as much as possible. Here is a pic of it (it's the area immediately in front of the shifter). The cables route towards the front of the car (towards the engine) so the only piece of the cable you see is the little bit that connects to your phone.
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Honestly people. Wireless carplay is so cool I can’t believe everyone that only has wired carplay in their car hasn’t already bought one of these wifi USB dongles to have it.
I have a qi charger in a tray inside my console on the odd occasions the iPhone needs charging, which is hardly ever, and if a Qi charger can add charge while running wireless carplay, a MagSafe charger, when one becomes available, would have no trouble at all.
Just a bunch of needless catastrophising. you all sound like a bunch of geriatric luddites.
 
I’m hoping Apple releases one first, BEFORE the portless phone. That would sell the transition.
That said, I wonder if this would run afoul of their licensing agreements with car and head unit manufacturers? Seems like that would piss a few off, at least in principle if not reality.
Why would the car manufacturer or component manufacturers care? They have already sold the car.
And yes, sad for the ever diminishing market of aftermarket head units, the number of cars that can fit one is in steep decline ever since car manufacturers went away from the DIN standards.
 
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Honestly people. Wireless carplay is so cool I can’t believe everyone that only has wired carplay in their car hasn’t already bought one of these wifi USB dongles to have it.
I have a qi charger in a tray inside my console on the odd occasions the iPhone needs charging, which is hardly ever, and if a Qi charger can add charge while running wireless carplay, a MagSafe charger, when one becomes available, would have no trouble at all.
Just a bunch of needless catastrophising. you all sound like a bunch of geriatric luddites.
To be fair, a lot if us have tried it and they worked horribly. In my case, audio was super delayed. It would be annoying but workable if it was only for phone calls, but it was for Siri as well - which basically made voice commands and dictation unusable.

People experience is very hit and miss, and it's not specific to the device. If you look at the amazon reviews you'll see most of the devices have at least some subset of reviews reporting similar issues. And that would make sense, because if you look at the devices - it seems like many of them come from the same ODM with superficial changes to the housing.
 
Going portless would be the absolute dumbest thing Apple has done in a long time. Without being able to connect to external devices, how do they expect to get all those amazing "shot on iPhone" videos? The few times I've hooked it to a rig and attached an external mic to record something important, I couldn't imagine the cost and the bulk required to do something similar over a wifi connection. That would truly be the height of stupidity.
You're absolutely right. There are way too many expensive pieces of equipment that require a port to plug into a phone in order to work, such as the controller for Mavic drones. Furthermore, the whole "buy an adapter" thing is pure crap, when the adapters that are on the market right now don't support all models (especially the newer ones) and when they do, performance is spotty and the user experience is inconsistent. My car is a 2020 Audi that came with wired CarPlay and a Qi charger built in, and it won't allow any "dongles" to function to replicate CarPlay. You can be sure that I am not going to buy a new car and a new drone, just for the "privilege" of using the latest iPhone. Not to mention the myriad of external batteries that are much much faster and convenient that any of the wireless batteries I have, and allow me to use the phone on the go without having to maintain some perfect alignment or carry some bulky thing the size of the phone. So Apple better take a careful look at that plan, because they're risking slowing down the upgrade cycle at a time when they can't afford to do so because they're reaching saturation, and the phones are good enough to last several years.
 
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If it happens i doubt it will be next year.. it will probably happen on the next redesigned form-factor which in Apples case is every 2 years.
 
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