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Oh yeah, wired "wireless" charging pads. The amount of time we save from plugging in cables and the improvements over a dock that came with the iphone 2g/3g.
 
It will be interesting to see if this is Apple's take on wireless charging or if they are just making it usable with other third party chargers. Personally i'm not sure if it's something i would use, i'm waiting to see what Apple announce before deciding 100%

I'm wondering if it could be that the iPhone 8 comes with the wireless charger but the iPhone 7s and 7s Plus doesn't i.e. you have to buy it separately. Apple kind of does something similar with the Apple Watch, the Ceramic edition comes with the dock but the other Apple Watch's you have to buy it as an extra if you want it.
 
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To become a trillion dollar company, you must think like this!!!

Don't be naive :p
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Equals €219 in EU with the freaking 23% tax and import costs we have to pay here!


So you think a company on the verge of becoming the worlds first Trillion dollar company worries if their customer spends too much on Apple gear at one time?
 
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Inductive charging is technically "wireless" charging because you can hold it over the the "charging base/station" at a distance of 1mm (no physical contact) and it will charge because of an electromagmetnetic field (see :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging)
Phones are never going to "charge over the air", how would that be possible? Electricity doesn't fall from the air. Unless you believe that every couple of meters in which you exist in there is going to be an electrical transmitter providing electricity for you.
Wh... what?! "Phones are never going to "charge over the air", how would that be possible?" Those are famous last words. Have you been following wireless energy trends in tech? There are plenty of patents, and working proofs, of wireless energy tech, and it's only going to get better. https://qz.com/880065/the-future-of-wireless-charging-is-here-but-its-going-to-messy-and-confusing/
 
Yes, you can. It will just stop charging while you use it. Just grab it and talk, without having to bother with the cable.
What happens when your phone is at 20% and you want to watch a movie or you plan to go out soon and you still want to sit comfortably in bed or on a couch while using your phone?
 
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It will be interesting to see if this is Apple's take on wireless charging or if they are just making it usable with other third party chargers. Personally i'm not sure if it's something i would use, i'm waiting to see what Apple announce before deciding 100%

I'm wondering if it could be that the iPhone 8 comes with the wireless charger but the iPhone 7s and 7s Plus doesn't i.e. you have to buy it separately. Apple kind of does something similar with the Apple Watch, the Ceramic edition comes with the dock but the other Apple Watch's you have to buy it as an extra if you want it.

That would REALLY suck. I hope not.
There seems to be two categories of thought...
1) people (like me) that are used to paying about $750 for an iPhone & (slightly begrudgingly) don’t mind bumping that up a few hundred to $950 or so, to get the more expensive edge to edge OLED screen, 4 cameras, & premium materials.
2) people (like Gruber) that want the iPhone Edition to be at least $1500 & come w/ the completely optional and unnecessary wireless charging puck, or an equally optional pair of AirPods, and other silly trinkets to make them feel good about spending double the cost of a standard iPhone.
Honestly, I don’t understand the mindset of anyone that would actively WANT more electronic waste in the world... for all people to have an accessory forced on them, whether they’d use it or not- and to want EVERYONE to get charged extra, simply because they want things a particular way.
Seems a bit self-centered.

(To be clear: I’m not saying you fall into that category... I noticed you merely said you were “wondering” if they’d go the expensive “bundle & include all accessories” route- not that you hope they do)

Given the choice, I’ll buy my accessories a la carte, thank you very much!
Shoot, to be honest- if there was an option to take iPhone for $20 less; without the crap earbuds, to save on plastic waste... I think myself & literally millions of others would be onboard!
 
Inductive charging is technically "wireless" charging because you can hold it over the the "charging base/station" at a distance of 1mm (no physical contact) and it will charge because of an electromagmetnetic field (see :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging)
Phones are never going to "charge over the air", how would that be possible? Electricity doesn't fall from the air. Unless you believe that every couple of meters in which you exist in there is going to be an electrical transmitter providing electricity for you.

No but you could have a charger plugged in, like a wifi router. If you're in the same room your phone will charge.
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Apple was considering a long-range charging feature, but that technology is still new and there are likely many hurdles to overcome before it'sready for inclusion in a device like the iPhone :- Macrumors Quote
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If it's not long range I don't really see a point in the wireless charging :-(

I do. But as inductive charge has been around a while (it's included in the Apple Watch) it does make me wonder why it isn't already in an iPhone.

I had assumed that Apple wasn't going to bother until they could do long range wireless charging.
 
Apple was considering a long-range charging feature, but that technology is still new and there are likely many hurdles to overcome before it'sready for inclusion in a device like the iPhone :- Macrumors Quote
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If it's not long range I don't really see a point in the wireless charging :-(

And I was considering going to the moon, but moon is boring and would be a waste of time.
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At least with inductive charging, we know the touchID wont be on the back :)

Why wouldn't it be on the back? Wireless charging only needs small real estate, it's just a patch. Plenty of phones with qi and fingerprint sensors on the back.
 
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Wrong, wrong and wrong. Typical user that has zero experience with this tech.

FYI, an S8 via 15w fast wireless charging will charge faster than the iPhone 7 can charge using its wired connection, and the iPhone 7 has a significantly smaller battery.
They is no special 'dock'. In the case of the Samsung wireless chargers, you just plop your phone down in either portrait or landscape mode and it charges every time. And at night, in a dark room, there is no fumbling around looking for the cord or trying to get the plug into the phone.
Right, so you have to fumble around to seat phone properly in wireless dock that will undoubtedly cost $75. I don't hate the idea of wireless charging but if Apple is going to do it, it needs to be better than that. Otherwise it just isn't worth the added cost. If user has to plug in wire or place device in a cradle, there is no significant difference. You can already get cradles that charge device.
 
No but you could have a charger plugged in, like a wifi router. If you're in the same room your phone will charge.
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No, not at all. If You are 30cm away from the electrical transmitting station (shorter than the the length of a physical cable) you will enjoy speeds 1/10th of being plugged in. If all you care about is being 1ft away from your "transmitter" and experiencing "trickle charging"then by all means lap up this future.
 
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That would REALLY suck. I hope not.
There seems to be two categories of thought...
1) people (like me) that are used to paying about $750 for an iPhone & (slightly begrudgingly) don’t mind bumping that up a few hundred to $950 or so, to get the more expensive edge to edge OLED screen, 4 cameras, & premium materials.
2) people (like Gruber) that want the iPhone Edition to be at least $1500 & come w/ the completely optional and unnecessary wireless charging puck, or an equally optional pair of AirPods, and other silly trinkets to make them feel good about spending double the cost of a standard iPhone.
Honestly, I don’t understand the mindset of anyone that would actively WANT more electronic waste in the world... for all people to have an accessory forced on them, whether they’d use it or not- and to want EVERYONE to get charged extra, simply because they want things a particular way.
Seems a bit self-centered.

(To be clear: I’m not saying you fall into that category... I noticed you merely said you were “wondering” if they’d go the expensive “bundle & include all accessories” route- not that you hope they do)

Given the choice, I’ll buy my accessories a la carte, thank you very much!
Shoot, to be honest- if there was an option to take iPhone for $20 less; without the crap earbuds, to save on plastic waste... I think myself & literally millions of others would be onboard!

It would be nice if they only offered a phone for $50 less without the included earpods and charger. I have plenty of those at this point.
 
It would be nice if they only offered a phone for $50 less without the included earpods and charger. I have plenty of those at this point.

Absolutely!
I’d absolutely LOVE to hear Tim announce that decision on “Earth Day” or something.

Lol, pipe dream, I’m sure... but that would be awesome.
 
Another solution looking for a problem.

If I have to plug the charging device into wall, and go to specific location to set the phone on the charging device, I might as well continue charging plugging in the iPhone. If I pay extra, I buy the larger power adapters.

Also even the ipad power adapter is much smaller, lighter to carry when I travel. Many times I charge in my work car, I use power adapter plugged into an inverter. Or use my 120v outlet in my plug in hybrid C-Max.

I always use the ipad power adapter for faster charging. Will inductance charging be as fast?

I see this as a total gimmick. Very little if any added value to how I use my iPhone.

Have suffered through years of plugging in phone, to be rescued from this chore for only an added cost $$$ ...... NOT

Oh and if it turns out to be long distance wireless charging, the amount of energy transferred is reduced by the square of the distance. So at 20 feet, charging a phone from near dead to 100 ( 2 1/2 hours for me now) will only take a week.
 
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It would be nice if they only offered a phone for $50 less without the included earpods and charger. I have plenty of those at this point.
Cue - "We have too many SKU's already!" crowd...

They could go all Spirit Airways and have a bin with an iPhone in it for a certain cost, then add the foo-foo stuff for an extra cost.

TBH, I never looked at it that way, the way you are, but I just look at them as spares, so... now that I think about it, If I'm ever in a condition where I grow 12 ears, and have 6 USB chargers fail on me (along with my multitude of USB chargers from Anker), I'll be set.
 
From that logic LTE isn't wireless either since the cell tower has a wired fiber backhaul.

No. That brand of wireless would require you to magnetically attach your phone to a cell tower every time you wanted to make a call. Connecting to a tower, through the air, from a mile away is indeed wireless.
 
Another solution looking for a problem.

If I have to plug the charging device into wall, and go to specific location to set the phone on the charging device, I might as well continue charging plugging in the iPhone. If I pay extra, I buy the larger power adapters.

Also even the ipad power adapter is much smaller, lighter to carry when I travel. Many times I charge in my work car, I use power adapter plugged into an inverter. Or use my 120v outlet in my plug in hybrid C-Max.

I always use the ipad power adapter for faster charging. Will inductance charging be as fast?

I see this as a total gimmick. Very little if any added value to how I use my iPhone.

Have suffered through years of plugging in phone, to be rescued from this chore for only an added cost $$$

NOT
I get what you're saying, but let me give a different perspective:
The :apple: watch is something that I don't need, but it saves me about 8-10 seconds per use. When getting a call, I look at my watch and figure out if I want to take the call, or prepare my greeting (i.e. Hi Boss, how's it going?, or Hi honey, what's up?), so it's a convenience that makes life incrementally better. (If we were playing an MMO, my life contentment score would be 100, it'd be 102 with the Apple Watch)

OK, on to the wireless charger...
I see this as a "grab and go" and a "set and wait" device. Yep, wired charging is faster, more efficient, and easier to implement, as you are just completing the circuit, while inductive charging has coupling inefficiencies, proximity needs, and you can't move the phone around and talk while it is charging, unless you use bluetooth. On the "plus" side, you just set it down, and it charges. Cars may start getting them, if there is a standard for the wireless charging, and a place to put the devices.

But the wireless charging may shave 3-5 seconds off your day, and over a year, that's 15-30 minutes back. I'll take that. For my contentment score, this may rate +1. For others, it'll be +2000.
 
No but you could have a charger plugged in, like a wifi router. If you're in the same room your phone will charge.
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Yes, technically you're 100% correct. But it would charge (if you're more than 30cm away from the transmitter) at 1/10 the speed compared to if you just plugged it into a mains charger. You think that's progress?
 
Another solution looking for a problem.

If I have to plug the charging device into wall, and go to specific location to set the phone on the charging device, I might as well continue charging plugging in the iPhone. If I pay extra, I buy the larger power adapters.

Also even the ipad power adapter is much smaller, lighter to carry when I travel. Many times I charge in my work car, I use power adapter plugged into an inverter. Or use my 120v outlet in my plug in hybrid C-Max.

I always use the ipad power adapter for faster charging. Will inductance charging be as fast?

I see this as a total gimmick. Very little if any added value to how I use my iPhone.

Have suffered through years of plugging in phone, to be rescued from this chore for only an added cost $$$ ...... NOT

Oh and if it turns out to be long distance wireless charging, the amount of energy transferred is reduced by the square of the distance. So at 20 feet, charging a phone from near dead to 100 ( 2 1/2 hours for me now) will only take a week.

How does 60% efficient sound? Not sure why people are so anxious to waste so much electricity for so little benefit.

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