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so do wifi routers, yet we call those wireless. I guess if it was powered by a battery and all the devices connected to the router wirelessly, including the cable modem, then it would be truly wireless router.
I'm curious, at what point would you describe Apple's solution as "wireless charging"?
 
I actually would have liked the phone using the same charging puck as the watch. That way I could still use it while charging and it would be easy to stick on and detach from the charger.

However, sometimes that puck gets hot so it doesn't seem efficient. Even better would be something like a mag safe connection. I think someone else suggested that on a different thread a few days ago.

I guess I'll just wait and see what really does get released. These rumors are all over the place. I think Tim really did double down on secrecy. And possibly did a better job leaking mass confusion. I can't wait for the keynote this year.

Meanwhile, I'll wait to read the next rumor about the new iPhones actually being powered by electric Pokémon thanks to a new partnership with Nintendo.
Actually, given the fact that Apple loves magnets almost as much as I do, I could imagine magnetic alignment being part of their approach. It would solve at least some of the more rational people's complaints about wireless charging. Now instead of having to plug in a cable, or place and align the device on a charging pad, you would get it close enough to "snap" in. When it's time to go, you'd grab it and run.

I still don't see it as a replacement for the lightning charger unless they manage to get that charging block much, much smaller for travel, but I can see how some people might like that on a nightstand, for instance. And, of course, there's always the chance that, like TouchID before it, my imagination isn't fully capturing how convenient it would be.
 
when it charges a device with having to physically connect the device to a charger.
So if Apple created two items (lets call them A & B) "A" was an electromagnetic charging station and "B" was an iPhone;if they were in close proximity and could charge as long as they were somewhere in the region of 30cm of each other they would charge. You know what can also charge your iPhone within 30cm of a power outlet; A freakin cable!
 
Doesn't matter all that much to me. Wireless charging is a gimmick IMO. While I appreciate it for the Apple Watch, it doesn't change the fact that I have a wire plugged in all the time, and even worse the end is much bigger than a simple lightning connector.
 
No, not at all. If You are 30cm away from the electrical transmitting station (shorter than the the length of a physical cable) you will enjoy speeds 1/10th of being plugged in. If all you care about is being 1ft away from your "transmitter" and experiencing "trickle charging"then by all means lap up this future.

Of course that isn't great. Presumably it's one of the reasons it's not in phones now.

But that is wireless charging. That's what we call wireless. Let's call inductive charging inductive to avoid confusion.
 
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So if Apple created two items (lets call them A & B) "A" was an electromagnetic charging station and "B" was an iPhone;if they were in close proximity and could charge as long as they were somewhere in the region of 30cm of each other they would charge. You know what can also charge your iPhone within 30cm of a power outlet; A freakin cable!
I think what Act3 is talking about in wireless charging is the type done by companies like Wattup. That tech can charge your device up to 15 feet away. YouTube has a number of videos on it. Some of the videos are 3 years old. The tech has been around for a while but has not found its way into phones. I think those who know about it are frustrated that it has not been adopted by the industry.
I won't get into the reasons I don't think it has caught on, but my point is Act3 wants that type of wireless charging.
 
So you think a company on the verge of becoming the worlds first Trillion dollar company worries if their customer spends too much on Apple gear at one time?

No absolutely not! You didn't get it :)

The idea is that Apple could increase demand by delaying a product to make it feel special. It's a psychological technique to manipulate the costumers.
 
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How does 60% efficient sound? Not sure why people are so anxious to waste so much electricity for so little benefit.

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Mac power supplies are about 70% efficient so -10% for the convenience of wireless is very reasonable considering you no longer have recurring expenses to repair your lightning port or replace cables.
 
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Cars and restaurants now have places you can set your phone down to gain a few % points of charging. It’s convenient, and I would appreciate having the ability even if only in my own home.
You let your phone out of your posession? Wow! you are brave and if you don't mind me saying so, slightly foolish. You may have all your life on your phone. Do you really want to risk that getting into the hands of the wrong people?

I certainly would not to that in a month of Sundays.
 
I like the idea of wireless charging on the iPhone, but don't see a huge difference in placing on a charging dock vs plugging in a charger. Either way you're still relying on a cable and have to keep your iPhone in one place. I wouldn't pay much extra for this feature.
Try the charging dock that is built-in on a vehicle vs a charging cable, and you would see the difference pretty quickly.
 
You let your phone out of your posession? Wow! you are brave and if you don't mind me saying so, slightly foolish. You may have all your life on your phone. Do you really want to risk that getting into the hands of the wrong people?

I certainly would not to that in a month of Sundays.
I don’t mind you saying so, as long as you don’t mind me saying your reading comprehension and spelling are terrible.

I didn’t say my phone left my possession. In the car example, obviously I’m either driving or a passenger. In the restaurant example, some places now have charging pads in the tables you’re sitting at.
 
I think wireless charging would be helpful when going to bed and you can slap the phone on a pad in the dark.
 
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So to connect to your wifi network, do you need your phone to be placed on top of the router?

Or can you be connected to it at a distance / without your device making physical contact with the router?

That's the major difference between truly game changing wireless charging, and an induction charger that requires the phone to be sat on a pad to charge.

Pads have big cons (slower charging, device being harder to use when charging) so hopefully Apple have a longer range charging solution in the works.
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Nobody is saying that the mythical wireless charging with WiFi range wouldn't be game changing. If "game changing" is the adjective you want to use to distinguish between it and inductive, I don't think anyone would have grounds to disagree. At worst, they may hold a different opinion.

What people are pointing out is that "wireless" is the wrong adjective to use to distinguish between inductive and WiFi range charging. It is just objectively false that one is wireless and the other is not. Both are either wireless, or not, by whatever definition you use involving actual wires.

And the "WiFi" analogy everyone keeps using as the reference point is also broken. WiFi has a range of 100m or so line of sight. To get 5W of charging power at 100m, you need something like 12MW EIRP from the transmitter. The typical household circuit will trip at a couple kilowatts.

Power won't transmit like WiFi. That's not what it takes to be wireless.
 
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I think what Act3 is talking about in wireless charging is the type done by companies like Wattup. That tech can charge your device up to 15 feet away. YouTube has a number of videos on it. Some of the videos are 3 years old. The tech has been around for a while but has not found its way into phones. I think those who know about it are frustrated that it has not been adopted by the industry.
I won't get into the reasons I don't think it has caught on, but my point is Act3 wants that type of wireless charging.


Nope. I could care less about wireless charging to be honest. None of my posts say I want it. I was just pointing out somethings.
 
Nope. I could care less about wireless charging to be honest. None of my posts say I want it. I was just pointing out somethings.
Okay, my bad.
I thought I saw some posts of you and another going back and forth about wireless charging.
 
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