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Wireless Charging Accessory Might Not Ship Until After New 2017 iPhones Launch
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Did you know that it doesn't actually require special positioning?
If Apple provided true wireless charging, it would be a break thru in science.
haha no I won't buy it. Too heavy to hold an extra pad while lying on my bed. You might say I could just pick up my phone and leave the pad on the night stand. What if i want to play games while battery is running low? ( or you have to make a call on 2% battery level) Now with a cable I can just charge my phone and play the game while lying down on my bed. For me this function is so vague. It stops charging once you take it off from the pad. So with this pad you have your phone fully charged overnight. But normal cable can do the job. Unless the pad could power up my iPhone truely wirelessly. I don't the see point of buying this inductive charging pad.
The inverse square "law" is a simplified approximation that doesn't apply to focused beams (like lasers and flashlights) over short distances. The laws of physics do apply, but they don't say what you think they do.
Many people on this thread aren't looking past the usage of this in their own homes and therefore do not see any benefit, which I understand.
As you say, the real benefit is when you're out and about and there are charging mats available instead of having to ask someone for a charger.
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I don't want Apple to create a standard at all and would rather they use an existing standard, like Qi in this case and help to develop it in consortium until they move onto the next thing.
There is a reason why Qi has not been used by Apple before, I would really like to know why, but I dont. Qi is an inductive charging standard defined by the Wireless Power Consortium standards body, and Apple is actually in the steering board of the consortium, and has been that for a long while now. So there is definitely a reason why they did not incorporate it before, and I do not think they are incorporating it now. Im almost asure they are either working on a new true wireless standard together with the WPC standards body, or making their own proprietary standard. If they would use Qi as it is today, they could have done so years ago. The standard is also open, so there are no licensing fees holding back Apple of using it.
This is the first iPhone release year where I hope most of the rumors are false.
- Apple using their own wireless charging instead of an established standard? FAIL
- Apple eliminating TouchID in favor of facial recognition? FAIL
- Apple getting rid of the bezels, ruining the iPhone's iconic look? FAIL
I hope none of the rumors are true this year, or I'm going to be extremely disappointed.
- Apple using their own wireless charging instead of an established standard? FAIL
- Apple eliminating TouchID in favor of facial recognition? FAIL
- Apple getting rid of the bezels, ruining the iPhone's iconic look? FAIL
I hope none of the rumors are true this year, or I'm going to be extremely disappointed.
If Apple is the first to use a completely new standard by the WPC standards body, I would applaud it if it gave true wireless charging, and not inductive charging like Qi today. Even a proprietary true wireless standard for all Apple devices would also be welcome, but I would then hope Apple gave the standard to WPC after a short time of exlusivity. Giving away new standards is something Apple has done before, like FireWire.
I totally agree on TouchID. Changing it to facial recognitioning would make the phone more vulnerable for opening under duress. This will be a radical change in security and privacy, so Im still hoping for this to be a dud. The 3d-mapping ability would bolster AR-Kit, and also allow better portrait photos. So the recognition technology does not have to be for authentication.
And regarding the bexels, well, Apple needs to do something with the iPhone design, the phones are getting a bit long in the tooth according to some. Not me, I love my 7.
Through the headphone port of course
It's all about value and price, and every customer is different. You may value this function for 20 bucks but some people may think it is worth no more than 5 bucks. I do appreciate restaurant with this charging pad. They are creating extra values for their customers. For sure you also appreciate it and you might go there more often. But still you have to consider many other things when choosing a restaurant. So this is an example how business/ restaurant can benefit from implementing this pad. But still they would do costs and benefits analysis before buying this apple product. That being said, the restaurant is buying the apple charging pad not you. So it is irrelevant. The value you see(10% battery while dining there) would just affect your decision on where to eat.
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It’s directly relevant to what we were discussing - whether “charge pad” charging is useful. Where in the relevant back/forth that you quoted was anyone discussing the incremental product cost to the end user? I already said you can continue using lightning if you prefer - you don’t have to buy anything.
Cant understand the point of the inductive wireless charging...you still need to look for a cable, connect the charging dock to the power outlet, place the phone on the dock, pad or whatever device they call it, etc. I see little or no convenience in offering any such functionality if it is not true long-range wireless charging. "Plug the cable in the phone" or "place the phone over a pad" seems like the same thing to me....If I can plug a device in the power outlet which is capable to charge my phone if it is within a meter or two of range seems quite groundbreaking. Otherwise...meah..
Quick release wheels on a bike? Really? Uh, so I don't have to pull out my wrench, that's why. If a 1 second motion of pulling a plug out of your phone is too much for you, then you've got 1st world problems. Oh, and you can't just "lay it down where ever" unless that where ever is on a the inductive charging station, just like your apple watch.
As for the car cradle, Tim himself would say that's a non issue because you get all day battery life and should charge at night... oh wait, or was that for the apple watch... no it must be the Macbook Pro. At this point I can't remember but he'd say, if you don't get all day, you're using it wrong.
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It’s not like having this option eliminates the lightning cable option - those of you hating the touchpad charging do not, in fact, have to use it. You can continue plugging a cable in and using your phone while it charges. I just hope you’ve accepted the headphone plug elimination by now
I'd say people don't want to pay for a feature that's a gimmick at this point.
The difference is that I dont have to go looking for the cell tower or going nowhere near the cell tower to connect my phone. Maybe you consider that the Apple Watch has wireless charging? You cant call something wireless if you still need to place it on top of it in order to use it. If my phone is not capable to charge within my pocket I dont think that I have wireless charging functionality no matter what they call it. Maybe inductive charging but not wireless thats for sure.
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Thats because people call the inductive charging wireless charging and it is marketing ********.
Wireless my ass - Phill Schiler
Not surprised its going to be sold as a separate accessory. Other phone manufacturers sell their wireless charging systems as separate accessories. But the system Apple use for to charge the Apple Watch is not wireless, its inductive charging.
I’m struggling to find a reason for wireless charging though (unless I’ve missed something). For one, you still need to plug the wireless charger into the mains electric, so if you are having to do this, why not plug the lead into the iPhone. A true wireless system, then I could see the point. But with current so called wireless charging systems (inductive charging) if you need to use your iPhone while it was charging, you would have to remove it from off of the charging module and in doing this, the iPhone would stop charging. Whereas with the way we charge the iPhone now, you plug the lead into it and you can continue to use the iPhone and charge it at the same time.
And two, from what I have read, there are no advantages to charging wirelessly (for example, faster charging with wireless to what can be achieved by charging the iPhone traditionally).
I think the wireless charging accessory will look a lot like the Apple Watch charging stand that Apple sell, and I expect it to be in the same price range to.
I’m struggling to find a reason for wireless charging though (unless I’ve missed something). For one, you still need to plug the wireless charger into the mains electric, so if you are having to do this, why not plug the lead into the iPhone. A true wireless system, then I could see the point. But with current so called wireless charging systems (inductive charging) if you need to use your iPhone while it was charging, you would have to remove it from off of the charging module and in doing this, the iPhone would stop charging. Whereas with the way we charge the iPhone now, you plug the lead into it and you can continue to use the iPhone and charge it at the same time.
And two, from what I have read, there are no advantages to charging wirelessly (for example, faster charging with wireless to what can be achieved by charging the iPhone traditionally).
I think the wireless charging accessory will look a lot like the Apple Watch charging stand that Apple sell, and I expect it to be in the same price range to.
People are freaking out based on rumors and hearsay. Wait until it comes out. Then we will see what it is.
I think the predictions of this being a killer device has raised expectations to something phenomenal.
The anxiety seems to be growing that it will be less than we anticipated. That said, edge to edge, better camera, better performance are still nice new features.
I am prepared to go with the 7 or a 7s if the 8 falls too far short of its promise.
I think the predictions of this being a killer device has raised expectations to something phenomenal.
The anxiety seems to be growing that it will be less than we anticipated. That said, edge to edge, better camera, better performance are still nice new features.
I am prepared to go with the 7 or a 7s if the 8 falls too far short of its promise.
Agreed.
On a recent podcast... they were discussing all these rumors and how Apple might do these things. And one guy asked some simple questions:
"Why are they doing all-screen on the front of the phone? Can someone remind me what we're getting out of this?"
There's no doubt that bezel-less phones look great. And a bigger screen in a smaller body makes sense too.
BUT... if you lose the home button and extremely important TouchID... that's a VERY big trade-off for not very much benefit.
Maybe they will keep TouchID but put it on the back. Though that wouldn't make me happy.
If the choices were TouchID on the back to make the screen cover most of the front... or keep TouchID on the front and have a bottom bezel...
...I'd keep the bezel.
But that's just me.
No it would not be a break through in science.... it's already been done and it's well understood how to do it. It's a matter of FCC approval more than anything.
Technically, it's 14.3% less efficient, as the standard is the 70%, and 60%/70% is 85.7%, and when it's multiplied out, it starts adding up on a macroeconomic scale.