Apps WorkOutDoors: New workout features

[Alsoff]

Relatively unimportant observation/bug - but looking through the screens recently I thought I would try 'coloured HR (current)' in the heartrate section. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work - I just see 0.00 in the relevant box on my watch (which isn't clickable, unlike everything else).

'Heartrate (current)' works fine along with all the other heartrate options, so I don't think it's a problem with my watch. Does anyone else see the same?

 

[cfc]

Relatively unimportant observation/bug - but looking through the screens recently I thought I would try 'coloured HR (current)' in the heartrate section. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work - I just see 0.00 in the relevant box on my watch (which isn't clickable, unlike everything else).

'Heartrate (current)' works fine along with all the other heartrate options, so I don't think it's a problem with my watch. Does anyone else see the same?

Please check that the watch app has also been updated. To do this go to the Settings and tap More and then scroll to the bottom. If it does not show v6.0.14 then please go to the App Store app on the watch and update it from there.

If it is not possible to update the watch app using the App Store on the watch then use Apple's 'Watch' app on the iPhone to uninstall and reinstall it. Note that this will lose the data on the watch app so you will need to send it from the phone app to the watch app.

To do this go to the Settings tab and tap 'Storage & Transfer' and then 'Send Yesterday's Watch Settings', 'Send Screens to Watch' and 'Send Interval Schedules to Watch'. If you want then you can also send routes or workouts individually. They can't all be sent at once because they are too large.

 

[mondopiccolo]

Please check that the watch app has also been updated. To do this go to the Settings and tap More and then scroll to the bottom. If it does not show v6.0.14 then please go to the App Store app on the watch and update it from there.

If it is not possible to update the watch app using the App Store on the watch then use Apple's 'Watch' app on the iPhone to uninstall and reinstall it. Note that this will lose the data on the watch app so you will need to send it from the phone app to the watch app.

To do this go to the Settings tab and tap 'Storage & Transfer' and then 'Send Yesterday's Watch Settings', 'Send Screens to Watch' and 'Send Interval Schedules to Watch'. If you want then you can also send routes or workouts individually. They can't all be sent at once because they are too large.

 

[noel18]

I did my first run on 6.0 last night with no issues but today it did some odd stuff. I was on a route I know well and when I should have been at about 3.2 miles it said I was at 2.8. I figured it was a GPS glitch so I extended my run a little bit and the next time I looked at the watch it was at the watch face. So I double clicked the crown to bring WOD back up and it was at the main menu and no longer tracking my run. When I finished up my run I looked at my workout history and it only recovered 2.1 miles. I rebooted the watch and will try another run tomorrow. Is there anything useful I can gather up for you Ian?

FYI. I am not on iOS 26.

 

[cfc]

I did my first run on 6.0 last night with no issues but today it did some odd stuff. I was on a route I know well and when I should have been at about 3.2 miles it said I was at 2.8. I figured it was a GPS glitch so I extended my run a little bit and the next time I looked at the watch it was at the watch face. So I double clicked the crown to bring WOD back up and it was at the main menu and no longer tracking my run. When I finished up my run I looked at my workout history and it only recovered 2.1 miles. I rebooted the watch and will try another run tomorrow. Is there anything useful I can gather up for you Ian?

FYI. I am not on iOS 26.

Sorry you had problems. Please could you send me the wkt file for that workout and I will take a look. To do this tap the Export button 3 times quickly and send to info@workoutdoors.net

Also please could you send me any log files beginning with "WatchMap" (which is generated if the app crashed) or "Jetsam" (if watchOS killed it off). To do this go to Apple's "Watch" app on the iPhone and tap General and then Diagnostic Logs. If the log files appear as “null” when you try to send them then please try again in an hour or so as they sometimes seem to take a while to be available.

 

[testcard]

I seem to be having an issue when attempting to “Send Map” to a route I’ve “Sent to Watch”. Only around 50% of the tiles seem to download before stopping. I’ve tried your workaround turning off Bluetooth on both devices and relying on WiFi for the transfer but this has no effect.

 

[cfc]

I seem to be having an issue when attempting to “Send Map” to a route I’ve “Sent to Watch”. Only around 50% of the tiles seem to download before stopping. I’ve tried your workaround turning off Bluetooth on both devices and relying on WiFi for the transfer but this has no effect.

Did you try starting a dummy outdoor workout? That sometimes convinces watchOS to give the app priority for data transfers. Otherwise you just need to wait until the other app (usually an audio app) has finished transferring its large data file.

 

[Shagles]

Is there a way to change what activity the export sends to Strava? Using the Cycling mode for my mountain bike rides and it exports to Ride on Strava, which is the road riding activity, not Mountain Ride which I would prefer.

 

[cfc]

Is there a way to change what activity the export sends to Strava? Using the Cycling mode for my mountain bike rides and it exports to Ride on Strava, which is the road riding activity, not Mountain Ride which I would prefer.

That isn't possible at the moment but in the future I plan to add the ability to create custom activity types which map to Apple's types but have their customisations. One of the customisations will be the ability to specify the activity type sent to Strava.

This is high on my to-do list (probably joint top along with interval improvements) but at the moment I am focussed on the new navigation features, and after that Apple's hardware and software changes will probably keep me busy for the next few months.

 

[Buadhai]

WorkOutDoors Causes Reduction in Music Volume

AppleWatch Ultra 1 - 11.6.1
iPhone 14 Pro - 18.6.2
WOD 5.5.4
Shokz OpenRun open air BT headphones

Here's what happens:

• I start music on my Watch via the headphones and set the volume
• I start a running workout with WOD
• The music volume immediately drops to barely audible
• I manually pause the workout and check the volume on the Music app. It's as I set it
• I resume the run
• 4 or 5 minutes in I hear in rapid fire succession "Pause, Resume, Pause, Resume"
• These are phantom pauses; not auto or manual
• After the second "Resume" the volume returns to normal and stays that way for the duration of the run

I've had the phantom pause/resume when cycling, but not lately. This week is the first time I've heard it during a running workout.

Any idea as to what's going on here?

 

[cfc]

WorkOutDoors Causes Reduction in Music Volume

AppleWatch Ultra 1 - 11.6.1
iPhone 14 Pro - 18.6.2
WOD 5.5.4
Shokz OpenRun open air BT headphones

Here's what happens:

• I start music on my Watch via the headphones and set the volume
• I start a running workout with WOD
• The music volume immediately drops to barely audible
• I manually pause the workout and check the volume on the Music app. It's as I set it
• I resume the run
• 4 or 5 minutes in I hear in rapid fire succession "Pause, Resume, Pause, Resume"
• These are phantom pauses; not auto or manual
• After the second "Resume" the volume returns to normal and stays that way for the duration of the run

I've had the phantom pause/resume when cycling, but not lately. This week is the first time I've heard it during a running workout.

Any idea as to what's going on here?

This has been a long-term issue with watchOS. Audio interaction with other apps is controlled by watchOS so when there are problems I recommend rebooting the watch.

If that doesn't help then you could try changing the audio interaction setting in the WOD Voice settings to be Mix to see if that helps. WOD just asks watchOS to speak a phrase and that does the rest.

 

[mmttu]

I have used WorkOutDoors for years, and it is literally my favorite watch app. I just recently purchased a watch ultra over the last week, and am suddenly having issues today with the app on the watch refusing to open. It is also not showing any of my uploaded routes, or previously downloaded map tiles on my phone. I am currently trying to download areas again, and it simply says “transferred 0/23” etc. I would appreciate any help! No hurry

 

[testcard]

I have used WorkOutDoors for years, and it is literally my favorite watch app. I just recently purchased a watch ultra over the last week, and am suddenly having issues today with the app on the watch refusing to open. It is also not showing any of my uploaded routes, or previously downloaded map tiles on my phone. I am currently trying to download areas again, and it simply says “transferred 0/23” etc. I would appreciate any help! No hurry

Similar issue here too with tiles not transferring. I’ve tried the suggested workarounds including a dummy outdoor workout without success.

 

[mmttu]

Sort of relieved I’m not the only one. I was convinced that I was doing something really basic

 

[testcard]

Sort of relieved I’m not the only one. I was convinced that I was doing something really basic

Tile transfers always worked well with previous version on my Ultra 2. I’m sure it’ll be fixed.

 

[cfc]

I have used WorkOutDoors for years, and it is literally my favorite watch app. I just recently purchased a watch ultra over the last week, and am suddenly having issues today with the app on the watch refusing to open. It is also not showing any of my uploaded routes, or previously downloaded map tiles on my phone. I am currently trying to download areas again, and it simply says “transferred 0/23” etc. I would appreciate any help! No hurry

If the watch app does not open then it is because Apple usually don't update the watch app when you update the iPhone app. To fix this please go to the App Store app on the watch and update it from there.

If it is not possible to update the watch app using the App Store on the watch then use Apple's 'Watch' app on the iPhone to uninstall and reinstall it. Note that this will lose the data on the watch app so you will need to send it from the phone app to the watch app.

To do this go to the Settings tab and tap 'Storage & Transfer' and then 'Send Yesterday's Watch Settings', 'Send Screens to Watch' and 'Send Interval Schedules to Watch'. If you want then you can also send routes or workouts individually. They can't all be sent at once because they are too large.

 

[cfc]

Tile transfers always worked well with previous version on my Ultra 2. I’m sure it’ll be fixed.

Unfortunately file transfer has been flaky for as long as watchOS has been available. Usually it is because another app is transferring a large file. A couple of things can help, such as starting a dummy workout (to give the app higher priority) or disabling Bluetooth (to force the other transfer to use the much faster WiFi) but sometimes you just need to wait until the transfer finishes. And this can take a very long time for a large file over Bluetooth.

If you have waited a day or so then it is worth rebooting both devices but don't do that before waiting because it could just restart the other data transfer.

Usually it is the most common complaint about the app and unfortunately I don't think I can do anything about it.

 

[mmttu]

Yeah I have no complaints about the app. I love it. Just wish I could get it working like before. It’s still good!!

 

[oric1sg]

Bikerouter.de is excellent and very flexible. It is focused on cycling, but it also has a "hiking" profile in the menu in the top left, which I use occasionally. I have not had the time to check the navigation waypoints though, maybe later this month.

I tried and it doesn't seem to add Nav waypoints. Could be user error though

@blimundus have you tested out the navigation waypoints yet?

Like @BD1 I also can't get turn-by-turn navigation when I exported the gpx out of https://bikerouter.de/?lng=en

The waypoints (A to H) are all shown as:
<wpt lat="38.92660414695249" lon="-77.03232489220056"><name>from</name><type>from</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.921360273866604" lon="-77.03494138542642"><name>via1</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.9230695694891" lon="-77.0414204031081"><name>via2</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.91652712322291" lon="-77.04163494011742"><name>via3</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.91589287442078" lon="-77.04639766172453"><name>via4</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.912621395842734" lon="-77.04360868060326"><name>via5</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.916961079663544" lon="-77.0319378672958"><name>via6</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.9125546294036" lon="-77.0319378672958"><name>via7</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.912588012631026" lon="-77.03648605189356"><name>via8</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.90731326795345" lon="-77.03648605189356"><name>to</name><type>to</type></wpt>

 

[cfc]

Yeah I have no complaints about the app. I love it. Just wish I could get it working like before. It’s still good!!

The map transfer part of the app hasn't changed. It has always had problems if another app is transferring data. Unfortunately if the bluetooth and dummy hints don't work then the only thing to do is wait.

 

[cfc]

@blimundus have you tested out the navigation waypoints yet?

Like @BD1 I also can't get turn-by-turn navigation when I exported the gpx out of https://bikerouter.de/?lng=en

The waypoints (A to H) are all shown as:
<wpt lat="38.92660414695249" lon="-77.03232489220056"><name>from</name><type>from</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.921360273866604" lon="-77.03494138542642"><name>via1</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.9230695694891" lon="-77.0414204031081"><name>via2</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.91652712322291" lon="-77.04163494011742"><name>via3</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.91589287442078" lon="-77.04639766172453"><name>via4</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.912621395842734" lon="-77.04360868060326"><name>via5</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.916961079663544" lon="-77.0319378672958"><name>via6</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.9125546294036" lon="-77.0319378672958"><name>via7</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.912588012631026" lon="-77.03648605189356"><name>via8</name><type>via</type></wpt>
<wpt lat="38.90731326795345" lon="-77.03648605189356"><name>to</name><type>to</type></wpt>

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The app cannot identify those as navigation waypoints because they don't have instructions like left or right. Maybe I could make it so they are considered navigation waypoints if they say "via" but that may be confusing.

You should still hear an alert saying "via" when you get to those waypoints because the app gives an alert even for non-navigation waypoints. And you can set the route options so that you get all the advantages of navigation waypoints for all other waypoints. i.e. advance warning of "In 60m Via"; an icon on the map with the distance to the waypoint; auto-zooming when you get to the waypoint etc.

 

[oric1sg]

The app cannot identify those as navigation waypoints because they don't have instructions like left or right. Maybe I could make it so they are considered navigation waypoints if they say "via" but that may be confusing.

You should still hear an alert saying "via" when you get to those waypoints because the app gives an alert even for non-navigation waypoints. And you can set the route options so that you get all the advantages of navigation waypoints for all other waypoints. i.e. advance warning of "In 60m Via"; an icon on the map with the distance to the waypoint; auto-zooming when you get to the waypoint etc.

Thanks Ian. I will give https://ridewithgps.com/ a try instead.

 

[wrj0]

Please see update to this post below - issue found.

Since updating to WOD rev 6.0 on my iPhone, and ver 6.0.14 on my AWU2, my workouts on the watch are not being sent to the iPhone - not showing up in the WOD Workouts tab, nor in the HealthFit app. I've rebooted both devices several times and have selected Resend to iPhone from the individual workouts on the watch, but nothing seems to happen there. Workouts seem to be recorded fine on the watch, but are not being sent to the iPhone. Per the app, I've rebooted both devices, and have waited more than the suggested 2 hours several times over the past 3 days, but workouts are not sent to the iPhone.
The native Apple Workout app works fine with both devices.
I've also turned off Health>Workout access, rebooted the iPhone, and re-enabled Health access.
I'd appreciate other suggestions that can I try. Thanks.

Found the issue: in the Apple Watch app, in All Watches, I found the Auto Switch turned OFF and was set to select my AW10 that I use at night and during sleep. Workouts during the day are performed with the AWU2. Enabling Auto Switch and letting the AW app connect to the AWU2 allowed the workouts on the watch to be pushed to the iPhone. Simple fix for something that has had me doing forehead slaps for the past couple of days.

 

[Roger39]

Yay. Watch app updated on its own last night!

 

[mih198830]

Hi, thanks for great app,
any chance to have electric bike type of activity (or i missed it?).
Strava has it