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My problem with folding phones is thickness (I put my phone in my front pocket), so seeing one that's essentially a slab when folded is great. My only concern is durability, which I suppose we'll discover in time anyway.
 
Gah. Nice but failed at the last hurdle. We want a folding phone so it is smaller when folded and same size when open.

This is the same size as a regular phone and bigger when open.

This is the ipad mini version of what we want in a phone.

The problem with iphone max etc is that they are great when using them but suck major arse when you actually have to carry it in your pocket. An actual folding phone, not a folding tablet would solve this problem.
 
It's curious that there are so few adverse reactions to that large honkin' oval camera bump, but when third party concept(!) iPhones are shown it's non-stop "fugly", "Apple can't design anymore", "it's too big", "the phone will wobble", etc.
 
And this right here is why Apple hasn't made a folding iPhone, yet. They know it would cannibalize sales of the iPad. That's literally the only reason.

I don't disagree, but Apple needs to be careful here. If someone releases a compelling foldable in the States, they lose *both* my iPhone and my iPad. And once my ecosystem is fragmented, I begin to rethink my AppleTV, my Mac, Homepods, and so on...
 
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I watched the vid on their website. It looks like when it’s folded up and closed that the the front side isn’t even a screen and therefore it’s unusable when closed. Whereas the Huawei tri fold phone is. If you can’t use it closed that seems pretty lame.
 
Never once have people said they want phones without physical buttons on the front... Never once have people said they want bigger phones... People don't know what they want until you give it to them.
Never say “never” as it’s so easy to disprove or challenge.
I'd rather see some companies continue to push the envelope in phone design, instead of sitting and giving us the same design for the past 6 years and calling it "groundbreaking", while continuing jacking up the price.
Some people like me, like useful updates for products that don’t stray from their core mission. If you are the type that likes the flavor of the month then by all means, those vendors exist.

If you believe a phone is overpriced, then don’t buy it. Remember the grass is greener.
 
I wonder at what point phone makers will start to put some of the tech into the camera bump to make it not count towards the thickness.
 
Comes down to taste and preference, which is all individual. There are going to people who feel the same as you that this is a must have device. For people like myself and @gtmead09, we’d prefer our phones stay in their current form factor. I know my parents would not be interested it either.

However, this is the first foldable phone that I would like to check out. I like the materials used and design of it. It looks cool.

If Apple decides to make one, I’d check it out, but I’d likely want the iPhone-iPad tag team for my needs.
You just undid your whole argument by yourself… I don’t want my phones to change form factor… I would want the iPhone-iPad foldable though…

Man alive, say you aren’t just pissing on this because it’s not made by Apple without saying it’s because it’s not made by Apple.

It has nothing to do with form factor, if it was down to form factor you’d still be rocking an iPhone 12 given the form factor hasn’t changed.
 
I had the original OnePlus Open (Find N3) for a year, and it was an outstanding foldable phone and I've owned 9 now since the Z Fold 3. Great cameras and battery life, great form factor, lighting fast charge, and I really liked their software. They offer the best foldable multi-tasking experience I've seen today. It's too bad they aren't going to make the OnePlus Open 2 (Find N5) global.
 
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Oppo has launched the Find N5, the world's thinnest foldable phone yet. When closed, the book-style foldable measures 8.93mm. That's less than a millimeter thicker than an iPhone 16 Pro, and thinner than the Honor Magic V3, which was the previous record holder.

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The device is barely thicker than its USB-C port. Indeed, Oppo has suggested that the obstacle to making it any thinner is now "the limit of the charging port." It's already thinner than a headphone jack, which is probably why there isn't one.

When opened, the Find N5 is 4.21mm at its thinnest point, which is actually thicker than the new Huawei Mate XT Ultimate tri-fold phone at 3.66mm – so the "world's thinnest" claim only applies when the Find N5 is closed. It has a 6.62-inch outer screen, a titanium hinge, and a 8.2-inch square inner LTPO display, which (as Marques Brownlee notes) is more screen real estate than an iPad mini.

On the back is a ring triple camera system featuring a 50MP main sensor with optical image stabilization (OIS). That's accompanied by a smaller 50MP periscope telephoto sensor with 3x optical zoom and OIS, and an 8MP ultra-wide camera.

The Find N5 has IPX6, X8, and X9 ratings, so it can survive immersion and sprayed water, but not dust or dirt. It features a Snapdragon 8 Elite processor and a 5,600mAh battery, and the whole package weighs in at a relatively light 229 grams. However, it will also make your wallet lighter – the phone's starting price is 2,499 Singapore dollars, which is around $1,867 USD.

In addition to the slim profile, the Find N5 can connect to a Mac for file transfers and remote control using Oppo's O Plus Connect app on the Mac, according to The Verge.

Except for the US, the Find N5 is available in markets globally, including Europe and Asia. The phone was expected to be re-branded as the OnePlus Open 2 in the US, but Oppo's sister brand says it has no plans to launch a foldable phone this year, so it looks like Americans will miss out.

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The smartphone market is fascinated with thinness right now. Samsung recently teased its super-thin Galaxy S25 Edge, following reports that Apple is planning to launch a so-called iPhone 17 Air in September. The rumored device, which will replace the Plus model in its next-generation iPhone 17 lineup, is expected to be Apple's thinnest iPhone to date.

Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes that the iPhone 17 Air will be 5.5mm thick at its thinnest point, which likely means that it will have a 5.5mm chassis with a thicker rear camera bump area.

Article Link: World's Thinnest Foldable Phone Launches in Europe and Asia
If Apple had done this the fanbois who are dismissing it would be drooling with joy.
 
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You just undid your whole argument by yourself… I don’t want my phones to change form factor… I would want the iPhone-iPad foldable though…
No I didn't. I said I'd prefer it not to change. Also, I wasn't making an argument, but a point. Different strokes for different folks, but I guess that's true for you.
Man alive, say you aren’t just pissing on this because it’s not made by Apple without saying it’s because it’s not made by Apple.
I didn't piss on anything, I said if I'd check it out. Didn't matter if it was Apple or not. Also said it was very cool looking for a foldable. I think you're the one who's "pissing" here.
It has nothing to do with form factor, if it was down to form factor you’d still be rocking an iPhone 12 given the form factor hasn’t changed.
If it came down to a the foldable or non-foldable, that would be a decision I would have to make and I would likely pick the latter at the moment.

Triggered aren't, you?
 
I watched the MKHBD review of this and it is a ridiculously impressive feat of engineering and the technical specs seem to be very good. I don't want one personally, but that does not mean that many millions don't (despite all the boringly predictable posts about solutions without problems etc.)

I'm still an Apple user but I'm watching products like this, and wondering for how long Apple will be seen as (or even be) the premium product producer in this sector, not least outside of the USA where their products are often more expensive (especially in Europe). In addition, look at the slow spread of Apple AI outside the USA and English-speaking countries, and it's not exactly a game changer anyway. What can or will Apple pull out of the bag to keep being seen as the premium smartphone manufacturer, if indeed it even is seen as that outside of its core fan base?
 
Once again a solution without a problem.... never once have I said I wish my phone could fold.

If only companies like Oppo had known you have never said that, they could have saved themselves the effort of developing and making this things. What fools! Oh wait, hang on... maybe people other than yourself want them and are buying them?
 
I watched the MKHBD review of this and it is a ridiculously impressive feat of engineering and the technical specs seem to be very good. I don't want one personally, but that does not mean that many millions don't (despite all the boringly predictable posts about solutions without problems etc.)

I'm still an Apple user but I'm watching products like this, and wondering for how long Apple will be seen as (or even be) the premium product producer in this sector, not least outside of the USA where their products are often more expensive (especially in Europe). In addition, look at the slow spread of Apple AI outside the USA and English-speaking countries, and it's not exactly a game changer anyway. What can or will Apple pull out of the bag to keep being seen as the premium smartphone manufacturer, if indeed it even is seen as that outside of its core fan base?
Some of that is scale though. Oppo knows it's not going to sell hundreds of millions of these. Apple doesn't have the luxury of introducing a product they can't produce at an absolutely massive scale. Yes, they have more resources to do so, but they can't be as nimble as some of their competitors. When they release something it needs to be able to be produced at scale across the world - Oppo isn't even introducing this outside of Asia if @contacos is right.

That's not to say this isn't impressive, or that maybe Apple shouldn't be pushing the boundaries harder, but it's not surprising to me that you see these sorts of devices from other manufacturers and not from Apple.
 
That’s like telling someone to stay in an abusive relationship. Sure Apple beats you now and again. But they promise it will never happen again..
Yeah thats completely in bad taste and trivializes domestic violence survivors or those who die.

You’re literally comparing abuse to the fact the company you use hasn’t made a shiny new toy the way you want.

Please be so for real now.
 
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*edit* just noticed in the description that it has an outside screen.
still I don't understand why this is not shown on the marketing photos
 
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And this right here is why Apple hasn't made a folding iPhone, yet. They know it would cannibalize sales of the iPad. That's literally the only reason.

I agree with you and I think it's holding them back, company wide, from more aggressively trying things due to this concern (cannibalization)
 
Yeah thats completely in bad taste and trivializes domestic violence survivors or those who die.

You’re literally comparing abuse to the fact the company you use hasn’t made a shiny new toy the way you want.

Please be so for real now.
Oh stop being so dramatic. Your original claim has zero evidence to back it up. We get it, it’s a Mac website. But there isn’t a pledge.
 
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