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With Apple likely creating a low-cost MacBook with the A18 Pro chip, it raises the question: could the Mac mini get a similar treatment? Many users would likely be happy with such a device.

Would you buy a Mac mini with an A18 Pro, 8GB of RAM, and 256GB of storage for $399, even if it only had two USB-C ports?
 
The base M4 is already an outstanding and surprising value if you consider that the 2011 mini, for example, also sold for $599 which is $856 if adjusted for inflation. And the M4 mini has had a $449.99 in-store price at Micro Center for a while now.
 
Maybe this would be their effort at at "terminal" machine?

I've always thought they could do the same type of thing with an Apple TV "Pro" for those that basically just need online services and a web browser.

It's the sort of machine I could see buying for an older relative or for kids.
 
For myself? No (to put it politely).

I could see it possibly being alright for those who want a very basic desktop, which seems more and more niche with every passing year.

The future looks mobile.
 
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Not as my main system.

However, if I wanted a second desktop for basic stuff - or knew someone who needed a Mac that they could couple with a cheap TV/monitor for "personal productivity" stuff then I can see it's use (as with the A18 MacBook).

I don't think there's any excuse for 8GB/256GB anything in 2025, though.
 
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In a further effort to dumb'ify MacOS down to the capability and functionality of iOS - an OS created for the 2007 iPod Touch, it looks like Apple is considering all options. In a laptop, it seems we'll end up with, essentially, the Apple Chromebook. In a desktop - where frankly, more horsepower and capabilities are expected - there is no argument for a purposely-hobbled computer, with the possible exception of for children's play and homework. And $400 for that - even if from Apple - is unjustified.
 
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In a further effort to dumb'ify MacOS down to the capability and functionality of iOS - an OS created for the 2007 iPod Touch, it looks like Apple is considering all options.
Funny, what comes to mind when I read that is Apple's advertising campaign from that era, promoting how easy it was to set up and use a Mac. I was delighted when I got my first Mac (a mini) in 2006 and the ads were true.
 
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No, I already have an M4 Pro (14core CPU/20core GPU) Mini with 64GB and a too much Apple-taxed storage. Should be enough for the next 20 years. I hope all non-removable parts are lasting that long.
 
I think an A18 Mac is a great idea. For those who want one for Office, FaceTime, web browsing, or any other light tasks would be perfect. Even an M4 is overkill for those tasks.
 
Anyone who didn't need more than a nerfed desktop like that would probably just carry on using their phone as a primary device as throtAU said.
 
I think an A18 Mac is a great idea. For those who want one for Office, FaceTime, web browsing, or any other light tasks would be perfect. Even an M4 is overkill for those tasks.

I’ve set up a few M4 minis and overkill is how I would describe it was well. A lot of people just want a small desktop to drive a large monitor at home for content consumption. They don’t use the Thunderbolt ports or Ethernet.
 
Funny, what comes to mind when I read that is Apple's advertising campaign from that era, promoting how easy it was to set up and use a Mac. I was delighted when I got my first Mac (a mini) in 2006 and the ads were true.
It's true - setup was pretty straightforward when I moved (full time) from Windows to Mac, after the implementation of Win8 finally sent me over the edge.

That said, I recall another advertising campaign from only a few year ago - "What's a computer?" , as they tried to convince users that a tablet running iOS was as effective as a computer running any other OS. That campaign crashed and burned, but it seems they are - instead of improving the iPad experience with a *real* OS - trying to bring down the capabilities of their computers to match the weaker platform.
 
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Don't think I would buy any Mac with 256GB storage at this point. Apple will still be price-gouging for additional storage even if it has an A18.
Apple doesn't price-gouge. They sell their products at price points the market will bear. An example of price gouging is when a store jacks up the price of a case of bottled water the day before a hurricane hits. If you think Apple's prices are too high, buy from a different company. There are plenty of good alternatives (albeit without Mac OS or iOS).
 
Apple doesn't price-gouge. They sell their products at price points the market will bear. An example of price gouging is when a store jacks up the price of a case of bottled water the day before a hurricane hits. If you think Apple's prices are too high, buy from a different company. There are plenty of good alternatives (albeit without Mac OS or iOS).

Yeah ... actually they do price gouge on additional RAM & Storage.

There's no "what the market will bear" if you want a Mac, but just happen to need more internal storage or RAM.
 
Yeah ... actually they do price gouge on additional RAM & Storage.

There's no "what the market will bear" if you want a Mac, but just happen to need more internal storage or RAM.
Yes, they have relatively high pricing for RAM and storage upgrades but, again, the market pays these prices. I guarantee Apple does price sensitivity studies that determine the point at which lost sales would outweigh the increased profit at a particular price point. It is not price gouging.

"Price gouging refers to when retailers and others take advantage of spikes in demand by charging exorbitant prices for necessities, often after a natural disaster or other state of emergency, " as defined by the National Council of State Legislatures, in Price Gouging, State Legislatures, January 21, 2025.
 
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They would sell a lot. But for experienced users the hook for apple making money is gouging on the HD upgrades to get the hd to at least 1 tb(which should be standard now across the board in all base models anyway). But the additions needed when buying a base mini now is buying which ever satechi mac mini hub is released with flash meme slot for that additional HD space needed
 
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