waloshin
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I don’t care… the processor is just one part of the system… yawn
Secondly in what world would I ever want an A18pro over a M4 Mac mini.
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Would you buy $399 A18 Pro Mac mini?
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Secondly in what world would I ever want an A18pro over a M4 Mac mini.
One has to think about system support by apple for a secure use. Is the mini good enough to support the actual system in 5 to 7 years? The cpu power is similar to a m2. I assume the m2 will be supported for about 3 more years. Will the A18pro supported much longer?
EugW
macrumors P6
Apple provides software/OS support based mainly on year of release, not based on CPU speed.
For example, the A10 iPad (dual-core) with 3 GB RAM was supported with later versions of iPadOS that did not support the A10X iPad Pro (triple-core) with 4 GB RAM. Why? Because the A10 iPad was released much later.
These are the rumored limitations of the A18 MacBook
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What could be the limitations of a potential A18 Mac mini to make it cheaper ?
No thunderbolt ports , 2/3 10gbps ports usb c ?
Leaker Says Apple's Lower-Cost MacBook Will Have These 8 Limitations
Apple is expected to unveil its long-rumored lower-cost MacBook next week. Given it will be more affordable, this MacBook model will obviously have some reduced specs and compromises compared to the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro. While we are still waiting for Apple to announce the new MacBook...
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What could be the limitations of a potential A18 Mac mini to make it cheaper ?
No thunderbolt ports , 2/3 10gbps ports usb c ?
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These are the rumored limitations of the A18 MacBook
Leaker Says Apple's Lower-Cost MacBook Will Have These 8 Limitations
Apple is expected to unveil its long-rumored lower-cost MacBook next week. Given it will be more affordable, this MacBook model will obviously have some reduced specs and compromises compared to the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro. While we are still waiting for Apple to announce the new MacBook...
What could be the limitations of a potential A18 Mac mini to make it cheaper ?
No thunderbolt ports , 2/3 10gbps ports usb c ?
Look at what an Apple TV looks like. It’ll be that and add two, or dare I say just one USB-C port.
throAU
macrumors G4
This is the actual reality for probably 90% of end users when they log what they actually do with their devices.
But they get (up)sold on “you need XYZ” when the reality is they just don’t.
throAU
macrumors G4
Because 90% of sales these days are laptops, and the mac mini has no screen, battery, keyboard, etc.
philipma1957
macrumors 604
No I would always want 2tb ssd and 32gb ram for any apple pc. I would really want 4tb ssd with 64gb ram but that simply costs more than I will spend.
I need around 23gb ram of the 32gb ram and about 0.9tb of the ssd.
So l will likely settle for a 32gb 2tb m4 mini like the one below that I got with a combined veteran+refurbished discount the total cost was just under 1500
I need around 23gb ram of the 32gb ram and about 0.9tb of the ssd.
So l will likely settle for a 32gb 2tb m4 mini like the one below that I got with a combined veteran+refurbished discount the total cost was just under 1500
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Moonjumper
macrumors 68030
That is comparing full price to discounted. If the M4 Mini can be discounted, so can an A18 Pro Mini.
If Apple does introduce a cheap A18 Pro MacBook, which looks likely, a Mini with the same specs seems reasonable.
The Mini is often discounted. Pretty much permanently now and has gone as low as $399 in the US. It will take a little time before similar discounts are available for a new product. It will have to go somewhat below $399 to make any financial sense and I would assume educational institutes will probably be the main target.
What counts against it is the rising cost of chips. That purported $399 price tag is going to be hard to maintain a year from now.
What counts against it is the rising cost of chips. That purported $399 price tag is going to be hard to maintain a year from now.
IvyKing
macrumors 6502a
2 usb c ports
Would make a good plex server if you have a DAS 4/5 bay and not multiple separate drives
throAU
macrumors G4
Price and size/power consumption/fanless operation.
A $399 A18 Pro mac mini is not aimed at the M4 market.
Now that reviews are out on the MacBook neo
I want a Mac mini neo even more now , I don’t care if is 8gb ram , I will only use it for light work
I have an m4 pro already
I want a Mac mini neo even more now , I don’t care if is 8gb ram , I will only use it for light work
I have an m4 pro already
EugW
macrumors P6
The reviews out on the MacBook Neo have firmed up my resolve to skip an A18 Pro 8 GB RAM Mac. The Neo has some lag, and the A19 Pro with 12 GB RAM and 512 storage has considerably faster overall performance and drive speed.
If I don’t get my kid a MacBook Air this year, I’d probably get a Neo next year if it’s upgraded as described above. I’d buy neither in a Mac mini though, since the extra unused monitor I already have is more than 4K, at 3840x2560. I don’t expect the 19 Pro to support anything beyond 4K 3840x2160 60 Hz either.
No way. I paid only 295.90 for an M4 mini basic 256/16. With tradein if the 290 currently offered stays when the M5 mini comes out then then the M5 will be only 310 plus tax. And with edu only 210 plus tax. Much less than 399. So no to 399.
throAU
macrumors G4
Given an A series chip is in the existing AppleTV that was originally 1 year old or so on release for under $200 (150? less?), we could potentially see a Mac Nano with A series in the ballpark of AppleTV price.
If apple were to choose to go there... it is entirely within their capabilities. They don't need to pay anyone for an OS license, the hardware is clearly capable and they already basically have a box running similar hardware in a similar thermal/power profile.
If apple were to choose to go there... it is entirely within their capabilities. They don't need to pay anyone for an OS license, the hardware is clearly capable and they already basically have a box running similar hardware in a similar thermal/power profile.
jlc1978
macrumors 604
I'd guess closer to $400 than $200, primarily due to greater RAM and SSD requirements, as well as additional display and serial ports.
Certainly, and Ould be an interesting desktop play.
throAU
macrumors G4
All they need is bluetooth and HDMI, maybe a USB or two (for PC keyboard/mouse or storage connectivity). The AppleTV has all that, plus wifi and ethernet.
And the AppleTV has less RAM sure, but its also been out for years with minimal change at this point.
$400 is up near the price of a neo, with no included trackpad, keyboard, lithium ion battery, larger aluminium enclosure and screen - all those things cost a significant amount of the BOM cost.
Nah, I reckon they could (if they want) get it out the door for $200 or less with the same SOC as the MacBook Neo. Probably less if they were to make it plastic and AppleTV size - the SOC would certainly fit as an older version of exactly that is in the current AppleTV!
Apple are toying with the PC industry right now - a Mac mini at half the price of the Neo would be trivial for them to produce if they actually wanted to.