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Would You Ever Switch To Android?


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If only apple licensed ios to other vendors?
Then you'd have Android redux.

This is what Google did and once the cat got out of the bag, they lost control. And Apple is all about controlling the user experience.
 
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Then you'd have Android redux.

This is what Google did and once the cat got out of the bag, they lost control. And Apple is all about controlling the user experience.
Yes i know it was more of a rhetorical thought on my part. Apple will never license out their primary income earner and like you said, they are all about controlling the user experience according to their reality distortion field vision.
 
I've been back and forward a few times. Samsung was always a disaster for me, it involved too much tinkering to stop things like battery drain. I loved Huawei phones, Had a Mate 20 Pro and P20 Pro from work, amazing cameras, excellent battery life, couldn't fault them really, I might still have an Huawei had the fall out not happened, sadly its pointless owning a Huawei phone now, pretty useless without Google.
 
OnePlus 7 ProiPhone 11iPhone 11 Pro
Price$600$700$1,000
Screen typeAMOLEDLCDOLED
Refresh Rate90hz60hz60hz
Screen size6.67"6.1"5.8"
Pixel density516 ppi326 ppi458 ppi
NotchNo (pop-up selfie cam)YesYes
Face UnlockYesYesYes
Touch UnlockYes (under display)NoNo
RAM8GB4GB4GB
Storage256GB64GB64GB
CamerasUltrawide, Wide, TelephotoUltrawide, WideUltrawide, Wide, Telephoto
ConnectorUSB-CLightningLightning
Battery4000 mAh3110 mAh3046 mAh
ChargingFast charging 30W includedFast charging 18W upgradeFast charging 18W upgrade

This was the decision I was making at the beginning of the year, and I concluded that Apple was not offering the best value and went with OnePlus.

But some of these metrics can not be taken at face value.. for example RAM, the iPhone has half, yet has better memory management and more apps stay open then on Android. Battery.. while having ~900 mAh more, the OnePlus gets 2-3 hours LESS battery life. Also your 11 Pro needs to say fast charge 18W included.
 
But some of these metrics can not be taken at face value.. for example RAM, the iPhone has half, yet has better memory management and more apps stay open then on Android. Battery.. while having ~900 mAh more, the OnePlus gets 2-3 hours LESS battery life. Also your 11 Pro needs to say fast charge 18W included.
And for some reason the Pro Max isn't on there.
 
I do think the Notes are the ultimate 'no-compromises' device.

Amazing screens
Amazing battery life
Great cameras
+ think the Note 10 and Note 20 are the best looking phones on the market
 
I've used Android devices in the past as a secondary device, but I would never make the move full-time. I'm fully ingrained in the Apple ecosystem, so it wouldn't make much sense (plus, Android does not appeal to me after using various Samsung/Google Pixel devices).
 
But some of these metrics can not be taken at face value.. for example RAM, the iPhone has half, yet has better memory management and more apps stay open then on Android. Battery.. while having ~900 mAh more, the OnePlus gets 2-3 hours LESS battery life. Also your 11 Pro needs to say fast charge 18W included.

Trust me they don’t, pro max apps do not stay open in the background at all

Pro models sure need more ram this year

Pro max battery life is amazing though but it has a lower refresh rate so I guess shouldn’t be as bad
 
Your data : negotiable / secure / secure
True, though I was already using Gmail/Google Calendar/Google Drive, so...

Oneplus make fantastic phones, but it does not have ios and that is the most important factor for most people here.
I use a lot of the same apps in either ecosystem, they're not very different to me and I don't find myself missing iOS. Although I admit I never took advantage of continuity features between iPhone/iPad/Mac, in which case that would definitely be missed.

But some of these metrics can not be taken at face value.. for example RAM, the iPhone has half, yet has better memory management and more apps stay open then on Android. Battery.. while having ~900 mAh more, the OnePlus gets 2-3 hours LESS battery life. Also your 11 Pro needs to say fast charge 18W included.
I agree that Apple's devices have better RAM management overall, but I don't think the disparity as as wide as it used to be. My OnePlus has never slowed down once, so RAM and memory management has definitely surpassed my needs :p Thanks for letting me know that the 11 Pro comes with the 18W, I'll update that so as not to spread misinformation.

And for some reason the Pro Max isn't on there.
You'll notice quite a few phones are not on the chart, I was just laying out the decision I was making at the time. :)
 
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Would I ever switch to Android? Not unless I was senile and didn’t know what I was doing. I would rather win a fruit cake every week for the rest of my life, from Publisher’s Clearing House Sweepstakes. I send them a letter every year asking for my fruit cake entry form and never hear back from them. It is really frustrating that when you call a plumber, the house painter shows up to cut your grass.

Has anyone seen my Samsonite phone? I can’t find it. Apple can’t find the serial number in their database.
 
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I don’t have an issue with ‘android phones‘ in Terms of features, hardware, even their OS has improved a lot in the last three years.. What I do have an issue with, is the limited OS support (I believe it’s around three years). That’s where Apple has accrued such a strong following, is they consistently have five years of iOS support and continual security updates. That’s where the loyalty remains, is iOS, not the hardware standards for consumers.
 
Apple would have to go seriously downhill and completely cock iOS up for me to consider Android again after 8 years. Every time I use an Android phone or play around with it I realise I really do prefer iOS.
 
As a phone operating system it's ahead of iOS IMO. Notifications, widgets, lock screen elegance way ahead of iOS and most apps are great. I use a S20+ and an XS Max. The S20+ is a dream to use with the better screen and less weight. And more RAM helps.

But iOS has a better overall eco-system especially if you own multiple Apple devices.

Both are great.
 
At one point in time I'd switched from the iPhone 6 to the original Google Pixel. That Pixel was a great phone and would still be the only Android line that I'd advocate. However, after about a week I had 'the guilt' of switching and noticed how many people in my friendship circle and family rely on iOS, so I got iPhone 7 Plus which remains my powerhouse of a phone (showing some signs of age at this three year mark).

Like most, I'm very tied to the Apple ecosystem (also a Mac user of almost 20 years, and had the Apple Watch since release) and love the integration across the platform. But the most important point is that I quite simply love Apple products. My Apple Watch Series 5 has become the greatest device I own and had a profound impact on mine and my wife's physical health and how we interact with others. Do I like everything Apple does? No, I'm not a complete Evangelist. People are often surprised that I ever considered the switch since I used to work for Apple...
 
I got a Samsung Galaxy from work but I put the SIM card in my old iPhone cuz I just couldn’t deal with the amount of annoying notifications ALL THE TIME. Yes I know I just took a screen shot THANK YOU and the keyboard I wasn’t used to
 
Oneplus make fantastic phones, but it does not have ios and that is the most important factor for most people here. If only apple licensed ios to other vendors?

That would be the clone stuff from the 90s all over again. Apple will never repeat that mistake.
 
Yes i know it was more of a rhetorical thought on my part. Apple will never license out their primary income earner and like you said, they are all about controlling the user experience according to their reality distortion field vision.

I believe you refer to the RDF or reality distortion field - something unique to Steve Jobs.
 
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I've been going back and forth over the years and while my main SIM is currently in the iPhone SE 2020, I also have a OnePlus Nord ordered and I'll see what it's like. I had an iPhone 11, but even though it's not even an OLED screen it kept giving me headaches and eye strain, so it's either FaceID or something else with the liquid retina display that my eyes won't tolerate. I'm tempted to give the iPhone 12 (Pro) range a try, but if it's still FaceID only and turns out that I'm still getting the headaches, it's good to have a backup strategy other than holding onto the SE 2020 forever (its battery life is most likely going to be a problem for me once we can get out of the house more often). I try to stay away from services locked only to one platform and whatever synergies my iPhone has with my Mac mini 2018, it doesn't matter too much as the mini itself is a lemon and won't even hold a steady wifi connection, so I'm typing this on a Windows 10 PC.
 
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I'd use any device and OS that could reliably give me a window into all of my apps and content... which all lives in iCloud.

That said, I think that the current generation of Apple devices is, yet again, a compelling mix, so there's nothing that leaves me wanting hardware from another manufacturer anyway. Absolutely nothing about iOS leaves me wanting to try something else, and I see no positives in Android that would make it even cross my mind.
 
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