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Also look at the HTC one x. It came out in 2012 and will not be getting anymore updates. It only got one major update going from ics to jelly bean. Pretty ridiculous.

Not just ridiculous, it's completely unacceptable in my opinion. I would not tolerate a company with such inferior support if I didn't have to.
 
Not just ridiculous, it's completely unacceptable in my opinion. I would not tolerate a company with such inferior support if I didn't have to.

I would never own a HTC device again because of that reason, Nexus devices all the way.
 
I would never own a HTC device again because of that reason, Nexus devices all the way.

Are nexus devices any better though. Look at the galaxy nexus it launched with ICS (4.0) and it didn't get updated to kit Kat, it's last update was 4.3. So although the galaxy nexus is slightly older than the HTC one X it isn't doing much better update wise.
 
Are nexus devices any better though. Look at the galaxy nexus it launched with ICS (4.0) and it didn't get updated to kit Kat, it's last update was 4.3. So although the galaxy nexus is slightly older than the HTC one X it isn't doing much better update wise.

Plus, look at all the complaints about the Nexus 5. The low volume issues and the battery life are just two of them.
 
Nope.

I had a G1, Mytouch 3G, and the EVO 4G. While they were all good phones, once I got the iPhone 4s... Did not compare. Rocking the 5s now,and have never looked back.
 
It's like you got every bit of fan boy propaganda and congregated it into one post.

So instead of disputing any of the legit claims I made and one in which you agreed to in another post (OS Updates), you start name calling? Come on now, I expected so much more from you than that.
 
Nope.

I had a G1, Mytouch 3G, and the EVO 4G. While they were all good phones, once I got the iPhone 4s... Did not compare. Rocking the 5s now,and have never looked back.
To be fair android phones have improved a lot since then but not enough for me to continue with them. I've had two and that's enough for me. Too much hassle. Not enough benefits.
 
No. Android is an inferior product and Google admitted to copying iOS back when the iPhone was released. Why own an imitator that is still playing catch up when you can own the originator? All of Android's features are "mediocre" user experience wise with Google Maps being the clear star. Google Now, Google Play, and others are "me too" services that are inferior to iOS options. iOS 7 Google Maps is superior to Android's Google Maps I have heard.

I agree about "playing catch up," but the same can be said about Apple.

  • The notification center showed up in Android before iOS, and arguably still works better(this really boils down to personal preference).
  • Multitasking showed up first in Android, at the expense of battery life of course. iOS users found that multitasking caused a hit in their battery life as well.
  • The current application switcher in iOS is a pretty close copy of the JB application switcher, so there is an instance of Apple copying Google.

As for Google now, once you've used it for a while you can see how powerful the service really is. It's not a Siri competitor, even though it would seem to be. I was often amazed by the information that it would provide based on my recent searches and my location.

I know that not everyone will agree with me here, but Google Play is a fantastic service. I subscribed to iTunes match for 2 years, and it really only caused annoyances and frustration with mismatched songs, unmatched songs and disappearing music. I'll gladly pay the difference between the two services to get something that works for me without headaches.

Also, the Android experience is not cohesive. Each phone feels dramatically different and you have 2 different email apps, calendar apps and so on. I don't want a gmail app and a email app.

Android is highly customize-able, which is good and bad. Some manufacturers stray farther from the stock design than others. The Nexus phones really shine and show how slick and clean stock Android can be.

You don't have to use the included mail application AND the gmail application(unless you're on iOS and actually want Gmail push to function correctly...).

OS updates and bug fixes vary across devices. I don't want to buy a new phone every year just to get the latest security updates and bug fixes.

The Nexus phones typically receive support for 2-4 years, this isn't all too different from what you get with Apple. Additionally, application updates are independent from the OS, so if a bug in Chrome is found it can be fixed quickly, unlike iOS where the core apps are only updated when iOS is updated.

Unless you want to troubleshoot your phone and tinker all the time, why go through the headache of the Android experience? Hand anyone at any age group an iOS device and they will be proficient day one. The same can't be said with Android.

I don't think this is true in all cases. I know quite a few people who use Android devices with no issues. I think it all comes down to the level of technical proficiency and what the user is comfortable with.

Android and iOS both have their strengths and weaknesses. I don't think either one is overall better than the other.
 
Just to add too the above. Link an article or at least something where Google confess to copying iOS, Blackmagic. Stock Android has never looked or worked the same as iOS ever and arn't even based on the same desktop OS. If anything they started out as polar opposites but as time passed tehy have been pinching ideas off each other. Please tell me what top rung Android devices have you actually used long term because your spiel comes across as someone who has no experience of Android at all.
 
Plus, look at all the complaints about the Nexus 5. The low volume issues and the battery life are just two of them.

Low volume issue was fixed in a software update not long after release and also the speaker holes were enlarged too in a hardware revision. Camera was also improved via a software update.

Most people actually say that the battery life is pretty good for some it's not so good but the same could be said the battery life of the 5/S as there are loads of posts about people getting awesome battery life and and a signicant quantity of posts with users getting the opposite.
 
Just to add too the above. Link an article or at least something where Google confess to copying iOS, Blackmagic. Stock Android has never looked or worked the same as iOS ever and arn't even based on the same desktop OS. If anything they started out as polar opposites but as time passed tehy have been pinching ideas off each other. Please tell me what top rung Android devices have you actually used long term because your spiel comes across as someone who has no experience of Android at all.

It was mentioned in my first post and can be found in the Google started over the day iPhone was released article. Not saying Apple hasn't done its fair share of copying, but when it comes to touch interface phones, Apple set the bar high and others followed.

Galaxy S3 is the current Android device I have that is collecting dust. It has Android 4.3 and I'm not impressed.

You keep spouting terms like "spiel" and "no experience" yet everything I stated which obviously has some bias and subjectivity has alot of truth when it comes to Android. It would be nice if you actually addressed my comments with counter arguments versus using name calling and asking more questions that get away from the fact that iOS is the superior product IMHO.
 
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Are nexus devices any better though. Look at the galaxy nexus it launched with ICS (4.0) and it didn't get updated to kit Kat, it's last update was 4.3. So although the galaxy nexus is slightly older than the HTC one X it isn't doing much better update wise.

It got an extra 5 months OS support also Galaxy Nexus was about 5 months older. But also you have to take into account that Android updates it's apps and core services independant of OS updates unlike Apple so even though people with older devices won't get the enhancements to the OS itself they will get the updated core apps. Apple do up update the OS on their phones for longer but they disable features so it's people don't get the "full" benefit of the update. So there is ups and downs whichever camp you're in.
 
I agree about "playing catch up," but the same can be said about Apple.

  • The notification center showed up in Android before iOS, and arguably still works better(this really boils down to personal preference).
  • Multitasking showed up first in Android, at the expense of battery life of course. iOS users found that multitasking caused a hit in their battery life as well.
  • The current application switcher in iOS is a pretty close copy of the JB application switcher, so there is an instance of Apple copying Google.

As for Google now, once you've used it for a while you can see how powerful the service really is. It's not a Siri competitor, even though it would seem to be. I was often amazed by the information that it would provide based on my recent searches and my location.

I know that not everyone will agree with me here, but Google Play is a fantastic service. I subscribed to iTunes match for 2 years, and it really only caused annoyances and frustration with mismatched songs, unmatched songs and disappearing music. I'll gladly pay the difference between the two services to get something that works for me without headaches.



Android is highly customize-able, which is good and bad. Some manufacturers stray farther from the stock design than others. The Nexus phones really shine and show how slick and clean stock Android can be.

You don't have to use the included mail application AND the gmail application(unless you're on iOS and actually want Gmail push to function correctly...).



The Nexus phones typically receive support for 2-4 years, this isn't all too different from what you get with Apple. Additionally, application updates are independent from the OS, so if a bug in Chrome is found it can be fixed quickly, unlike iOS where the core apps are only updated when iOS is updated.



I don't think this is true in all cases. I know quite a few people who use Android devices with no issues. I think it all comes down to the level of technical proficiency and what the user is comfortable with.

Android and iOS both have their strengths and weaknesses. I don't think either one is overall better than the other.

Very good post and nice counter arguments.

I think Apple copied the task switcher from Palm WebOS but your point is valid in that Apple has done it's share of copying.

Nexus getting updates for 2-4 years is not bad but Nexus devices are a small segment of Android devices sold and that same update experience is not replicated across the varies Android devices. Let's not sugar coat this with exceptions. It sucks. Period.

Android stock experience maybe wonderful but noone really gets to see it when every manufacturer is mostly pushing their skins on everything. If you are lucky, you can wait a few months after launch and maybe get a Google Edition version. I guess it's subjective but I personally think it sucks that the experience is not consistent across devices.

Regarding multiple mail and calendar applications on the device at purchase, it just sucks. When I purchase the device, I would like to have the latest mail client from Google ready to go. I dont want Samsung's older open source version of mail that Google no longer updates. I guess we could choose to use GMAIL for all our mail needs but can that be done and would users know? This type of experience is ridiculous and can not be denied.

Look at the user experience when unlocking an Android phone and unlocking iOS. On Android, you have to hit the OK button to get into the device. On iOS, if the code is correct it takes you right in. It's the little things that make the experience great on iOS. There are a lot of them too and it makes for a better experience overall IMHO. Android is trying to get there though and that's my olive branch to you. :)
 
It was mentioned in my first post and can be found in the Google started over the day iPhone was released article. Not saying Apple hasn't done it's fair share of copying, but when it comes to touch interface phones, Apple set the bar high and others followed.

Galaxy S3 is the current Android device I have that is collecting dust. It has Android 4.3 and I'm not impressed.

You keep spouting terms like "spiel" and "no experience" yet everything I stated which obviously has some bias and subjectivity has alot of truth when it comes to Android. It would be nice if you actually addressed my comments with counter arguments versus using name calling and asking more questions that get away from the fact that iOS is the superior product IMHO.

I did'nt feel the need to counter your argument except on the point i addressed as the poster above me already has.
 
Very good post and nice counter arguments.

I think Apple copied the task switcher from Palm WebOS but your point is valid in that Apple has done it's share of copying.

Nexus getting updates for 2-4 years is not bad but Nexus devices are a small segment of Android devices sold and that same update experience is not replicated across the varies Android devices. Let's not sugar coat this with exceptions. It sucks. Period.

Android stock experience maybe wonderful but noone really gets to see it when every manufacturer is mostly pushing their skins on everything. If you are lucky, you can wait a few months after launch and maybe get a Google Edition version. I guess it's subjective but I personally think it sucks that the experience is not consistent across devices.

Regarding multiple mail and calendar applications on the device at purchase, it just sucks. When I purchase the device, I would like to have the latest mail client from Google ready to go. I dont want Samsung's older open source version of mail that Google no longer updates. I guess we could choose to use GMAIL for all our mail needs but can that be done and would users know? This type of experience is ridiculous and can not be denied.

Look at the user experience when unlocking an Android phone and unlocking iOS. On Android, you have to hit the OK button to get into the device. On iOS, if the code is correct it takes you right in. It's the little things that make the experience great on iOS. There are a lot of them too and it makes for a better experience overall IMHO. Android is trying to get there though and that's my olive branch to you. :)

The HTC Sense task switcher is very similar. As i said above it's not quite as clear cut as a phone stops receiving updates on such and such a date as the alot of the core android apps will be updated for months and months maybe years after the updates to the OS stops where as when Apple stops updating a device none of the core apps get updated again and also Apple disables features for the latest OS version for the older devices. Samsung including their version of an app along side Googles is annoying.
 
The HTC Sense task switcher is very similar. As i said above it's not quite as clear cut as a phone stops receiving updates on such and such a date as the alot of the core android apps will be updated for months and months maybe years after the updates to the OS stops where as when Apple stops updating a device none of the core apps get updated again and also Apple disables features for the latest OS version for the older devices. Samsung including their version of an app along side Googles is annoying.

I have heard that with iOS 7, Apple now has the capability to update core apps independently from the OS. Not sure if it's true but it would be welcomed.

Apple disabling features to entice you to upgrade does suck but getting the OS update support over long periods is very nice as you get most of the bells and whistles, bug fixes, security updates, and new features. Who wouldn't take that over not getting any updates after a year like most Android devices get now?
 
if the iPhone 6's screen is not wider, I'm going to switch.

Are you talking about aspect ratio? The iPhone 5 aspect ratio is 16:9, just like the HTC One, Samsung Galaxy S3/S4, Nexus 4/5, and most other smartphones on the market now.

If they made it wider, then it'd just be a weird aspect ratio...unless you're just talking about making the screen larger, and then yes, I agree.
 
Plus, look at all the complaints about the Nexus 5. The low volume issues and the battery life are just two of them.

iPhone 5S
http://tinyurl.com/kle94wg

iPhone 5
http://tinyurl.com/k2qpaje

iPhone 4S
http://tinyurl.com/k6du2kp

Wow! you mean I can search for pretty much any phone and find lots of results about battery issues?

Now reality for you:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
Nexus 5 battery above average

My typical experience:
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Nearly two days on battery with 4 hours screen on time. ;)

But hey, feel free to keep spreading FUD if it makes you feel better about your iPhone.
 
No way! After using Galaxy S3 and then HTC One I'm not going back to Android ever. iPhone is not perfect either but the eco system and perfect screen size on this is good enough for me. I don't need 5" screen.
 
I think Apple copied the task switcher from Palm WebOS but your point is valid in that Apple has done it's share of copying.

Why do you think that? It looks much more like the Android incarnation of it. Also, why did they copy the task switcher only after the release of the Android one? :rolleyes:

Whether they copied the Web OS or Android task switcher, either way they are copying Matias Duarte's work...
 
I have heard that with iOS 7, Apple now has the capability to update core apps independently from the OS. Not sure if it's true but it would be welcomed.

Apple disabling features to entice you to upgrade does suck but getting the OS update support over long periods is very nice as you get most of the bells and whistles, bug fixes, security updates, and new features. Who wouldn't take that over not getting any updates after a year like most Android devices get now?

Can you enumerate the features apple disabled in order to force you into a shiny new iPhone 6?
 
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