Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.

[MozMan68]

Apple Maps on iOS6? Ask it for a public transport route, and... it takes you to the App Store, to the section for transport apps. Useless

Ummm...what?

Pick the local transport app that works best for what you will be using it for. Once it is downloaded, it works pretty seamlessly and WAY better in my experience than Google transport ever did.

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b) Many U.S. users on this forum do not seem to understand that they constitute a minority of iphone users around the world.

Say What??

So, are you comparing all U.S. users to the entire rest of the world?

What a surprise Apple would want to possibly focus on their single biggest user group first....

 

[Idefix]

Catoonists poke fun at Apple's Maps

http://cartoonblog.nbcnews.com/_new...rtoonists-poke-fun-at-apples-map-program?lite

 

[cyks]

Say What??

So, are you comparing all U.S. users to the entire rest of the world?

What a surprise Apple would want to possibly focus on their single biggest user group first....

If that's the case, then it's a shame they couldn't even get the US right as there are plenty of serious mapping, address problems, and complete lack of POI here.

 

[Daveoc64]

Ummm...what?

Pick the local transport app that works best for what you will be using it for. Once it is downloaded, it works pretty seamlessly and WAY better in my experience than Google transport ever did.

What do you suggest when there isn't an App?

How can that possibly be better than Google?

 

[Italianblend]

See attached: why would apple maps want me to turn in the opposite direction of my destination? It's not a one-way street either.

 

[Kukulcan]

What do you suggest when there isn't an App?

How can that possibly be better than Google?

This gets tiresome. If there is no app for local transport (very unlikely in most regions of the world) use maps.google.com as webapp.

This is complaing for the sake of complaing, those who are finally beyond that found obvious solutions that are often better than google maps.

And if you find using the webapp too tiresome, go cry somewhere we can't hear you, get some android phone or whatever.

 

[cyks]

This gets tiresome. If there is no app for local transport (very unlikely in most regions of the world) use maps.google.com as webapp.

This is complaing for the sake of complaing, those who are finally beyond that found obvious solutions that are often better than google maps.

And if you find using the webapp too tiresome, go cry somewhere we can't hear you, get some android phone or whatever.

...and what solution to do you offer for the Map Kits and how they broke numerous 3rd party apps and various location services?

If you don't care to hear the complaints, what are you doing in a thread telling you that the Maps are a disaster?

 

[Daveoc64]

This gets tiresome. If there is no app for local transport (very unlikely in most regions of the world) use maps.google.com as webapp.

This is complaing for the sake of complaing, those who are finally beyond that found obvious solutions that are often better than google maps.

And if you find using the webapp too tiresome, go cry somewhere we can't hear you, get some android phone or whatever.

So your solution is nothing basically.

 

[Kukulcan]

So your solution is nothing basically.

What kind of solution are you looking for?

It is basically:

Open Google maps (webapp), type your destination, choose public transport, follow instructions.

Instead of:

Open Google maps (app), type your destination, choose public transport, follow instructions.

Should you be in germany, open DB app and do the stuff above, as with google maps you will do a lot of walking and taxi driving.

Should you be in any major city around the world, use the appropiate app or google maps - your choice.

 

[Daveoc64]

Should you be in any major city around the world, use the appropiate app or google maps - your choice.

Just to highlight how useless (and insulting) your suggestion is:

Commuter - Train Only

London Tube Info - Don't Live in London, Not Free

Navigon British... - Costs about the same as a month of bus travel does

Garmin UK & Ireland - Costs about the same as 2/3 of a month of bus travel does

Journey Pro London - Not in London

Journey Pro Connect - Train Only

Journey Pro Ad Free - Same as above, but with no ads

SailorsWeather - I want bus times, not a shipping forecast

Train Schedules - Train only

Garmin Western... - Price

CoPilot Live Premium (Several of these) - Price

Transit - Train only

Navigon Europe - Price

CoPilot Live Premium (several of these) - Price

CycleMaps - I don't ride a bike

Co-Rider - Bike again

You might say that I should pay for an App, but:

1) Why should I when iOS 5 did it for free?

2) How do I know these Apps will actually offer me anything useful? That Maps is incapable of filtering the results so that only relevant options are shown does not fill me with confidence. I could spend £40 only to find that the App has no transit directions here.

I suppose my city being the 6th biggest in the country stands for nothing.

 

[cyks]

What kind of solution are you looking for?

Since you're being so helpful in offering solutions, how would you recommend I get Location Based Reminders back, functional maps that actually show the routes I complete in my biking or jogs, or any of my real estate apps to properly function now that the Map Kit API is completely useless in my area?

 

[ck2875]

If nothing else, at least Apple added in more "Report an Error" options today. Now you can correct/report poor directions, search results, satellite images, street names, label names, etc.

 

[cyks]

If nothing else, at least Apple added in more "Report an Error" options today. Now you can correct/report poor directions, search results, satellite images, street names, label names, etc.

According to Apple's Maps, myself and over 50 of my neighbors all live on the same exact point on the map, 500+ feet away from anyone in the middle of the woods. The rest of the housing community doesn't fare much better.

I corrected my own address on day one - hoping to (at least) get Location Reminders back, but I'm not about to input a few hundred homes.

For those who have their entire city misplaced, what are they supposed to do?

What about the numerous roads, rivers, and even coastlines that are significantly off?

 

[Kukulcan]

Since you're being so helpful in offering solutions, how would you recommend I get Location Based Reminders back, functional maps that actually show the routes I complete in my biking or jogs, or any of my real estate apps to properly function now that the Map Kit API is completely useless in my area?

My solutions are for public transortation.

I never used location based reminders, but I don't know why they should be gone in iOS6.

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Just to highlight how useless (and insulting) your suggestion is:

Commuter - Train Only

London Tube Info - Don't Live in London, Not Free

Navigon British... - Costs about the same as a month of bus travel does

Garmin UK & Ireland - Costs about the same as 2/3 of a month of bus travel does

Journey Pro London - Not in London

Journey Pro Connect - Train Only

Journey Pro Ad Free - Same as above, but with no ads

SailorsWeather - I want bus times, not a shipping forecast

Train Schedules - Train only

Garmin Western... - Price

CoPilot Live Premium (Several of these) - Price

Transit - Train only

Navigon Europe - Price

CoPilot Live Premium (several of these) - Price

CycleMaps - I don't ride a bike

Co-Rider - Bike again

You might say that I should pay for an App, but:

1) Why should I when iOS 5 did it for free?

2) How do I know these Apps will actually offer me anything useful? That Maps is incapable of filtering the results so that only relevant options are shown does not fill me with confidence. I could spend £40 only to find that the App has no transit directions here.

I suppose my city being the 6th biggest in the country stands for nothing.

So why don't you use google maps?

 

[ThisIsNotMe]

I think it is funny that people keep posting that image of 3D view of a bridge when there is no 3D buildings.

Go to any place in Google Earth without 3D buildings and you get the same thing.

 

[cynics]

I'll start by saying I don't like the maps AND I rarely use public transit. But as pointed out, what's the problem with using the web app for this? It's not like you need turn by turn or any other feature the web app doesn't offer. This is a serious question btw.

 

[Daveoc64]

So why don't you use google maps?

I do, my problem was your post:

This gets tiresome. If there is no app for local transport (very unlikely in most regions of the world) use maps.google.com as webapp.

This is complaing for the sake of complaing, those who are finally beyond that found obvious solutions that are often better than google maps.

And if you find using the webapp too tiresome, go cry somewhere we can't hear you, get some android phone or whatever.

I'm not complaining for the sake of complaining - I'm complaining because Maps in iOS 6 is poor.

I also don't like your suggestion that there's going to be an App for everywhere in the world.

As I mentioned earlier, I live in the 6th biggest city in the UK - no transit.

I've had a poke around, and there's really not much available outside of London.

Your final line was clearly unnecessary.

No matter how good the Web App is, it can never be as good as a native App.

 

[Kukulcan]

I do, my problem was your post:
I'm not complaining for the sake of complaining - I'm complaining because Maps in iOS 6 is poor.

It is not poor for me.

And it even wasn't there at all in iOS5. Just ignore it, move it to some folder where you cant find it anymore (maybe named "turn by turn"). Use google webapp, which is an icon pretty similar to the one your are used to. Use it and you get the same public transport directions you are used to.

 

[cyks]

I never used location based reminders, but I don't know why they should be gone in iOS6.[

They're still there, it's that Apple moved my address. If I wanted to activate them now, I'd have to go hiking in the woods to where it now thinks I live.

 

[Daveoc64]

It is not poor for me

If it can't do transit directions outside of London (and even then only with a helper App), it really can't be seen as good, can it?

 

[dv8r]

It is not poor for me.

And it even wasn't there at all in iOS5. Just ignore it, move it to some folder where you cant find it anymore (maybe named "turn by turn"). Use google webapp, which is an icon pretty similar to the one your are used to. Use it and you get the same public transport directions you are used to.

Well I already do and even Tim Cook suggested it, so it's not like this hasn't come up. But it's still a workaround and not a solution.

 

[Idefix]

If it can't do transit directions outside of London (and even then only with a helper App), it really can't be seen as good, can it?

Best just to ignore the extraneous drivel. He posted the same stuff earlier in the thread, got the same response, hasn't learned a thing.

It's another case of the Ugly American aka Ugly US iPhone User rearing his head.

It's like this:

David Pogue, was misdirected by Maps in NY and wrote that Maps "is an appalling first release. It may be the most embarrassing, least usable piece of software Apple has ever unleashed."

Tim Cook admitted it with a very abject apology, even going so far as to recommend other Apps as being much better.

The launch of what is surely a brilliant iPhone5 is totally obscured by the worst decision Apple has made in a long, long time. Instead of writing about how good the iPhone5 is, all you see is numerous articles about how atrocious Maps is.

 

[Moi un Mouton]

Additionally, the apology remains empty words as they offer no solution at all for the other apps they have screwed with their appalling maps - running apps, hotel and travel apps, local offer apps, findmyphone, etc etc, all of which are stuck with inaccurate and incomplete maps to work with. They also offer nothing to replace streetview, which I use all the time in planning a journey, seeking out a POI, etc

Until they reinstate Google Maps to underlie those apps, their apology is insincere and meaningless. All location-based stuff on the iPhone on iOS6 is broken, but could easily be fixed.

Sent from Bracknell UK, now lacking a railway station, POI's randomly placed on the wrong streets, all petrol stations wrong, and no usable satellite imaging. (But marginally better off then nearby Windsor, Egham and Staines which have all been wiped from the map totally.)

 

[viperGTS]

Since you're being so helpful in offering solutions, how would you recommend I get Location Based Reminders back,

Um, what are you talking about? Location-based reminders are there in iOS 6.

 

[KnightWRX]

Um, what are you talking about? Location-based reminders are there in iOS 6.

For the locations the Geolocation API knows. Of course, since it lost so many... I can't tell it to "remind to buy bread when I'm near the grocery store in my City" because it doesn't know my city even has a grocery store anymore.

That's how location based reminders borked. Not to mention when it misplaces addresses and so never reminds you because it doesn't know you're near where you wanted the reminder to fire.

Then there's all the 3rd party apps. Since both of you are in a helpful mood in telling us this is overblown, mind telling me how I fix RunKeeper so it "remembers" the streets it used to know in iOS 5 and doesn't anymore ? Aside from moving my running route...