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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.

frozzbite said:
They are not doing this to improve our end user experience, they are doing this for their own selfish reasons.
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So apple ditching google partly due to google hiking up the charges to apple for accessing google maps is selfish?! Maybe they should have kept it and passed on the charge to you....

Until it launches properly, we don't know for certain what apples maps will be like, basing your argument on a closed developer beta is flawed, flimsy and basically like throwing your toys out of a pram. When google launched street view, people gave them a chance for it to grow from the limited major cities, so it's pretty petty to not show apple the same attitude for flyover. The satellite images in beta are much much better where I live than googles. We get free turn by turn now, which we never had before. So we lose street view, but if C3's demos are anything to go by, it won't be for too long.

Those who are really pining for googles own maps have options, stay on iOS 5, maps.google.com, the inevitable google maps app, or switch to android. No one is forcing you to go with apples own maps.

I'm a glass half full guy, I see great potential for apples maps to out do google maps...
 
sakau2007 said:
So you are saying that you believe all of the points of interest, public transit data, live traffic data, and so on and so forth are all being held back and will be there in the fall? I find that hard to believe.
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All of the items you listed were discussed in the keynote... Live traffic data was mentioned, they said that it will be crowd sourced, plus they use waze and tomtom amongst others. Points Of interest were discussed. Transit data was discussed and devs have APIs to use for this, so we have to wait for launch to see how it works, but I am looking forward to see the transit apps I use integrated as googles transit sucks balls where I live.

Nice to see you read up on what you were moaning about :p lol
 
Wouldn't creating your own Map solution cost way more than just making your stock maps app on par with androids, and paying Googles higher fee? I mean Apple does have like...100 billion dollars.
 
Frankied22 said:
Wouldn't creating your own Map solution cost way more than just making your stock maps app on par with androids, and paying Googles higher fee? I mean Apple does have like...100 billion dollars.
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Why pay for access to someone else's stuff when you can do it yourself and integrate it better. Someone posted a link on one of these map threads that google wouldn't allow turn by turn through it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15067907
 
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shandyman said:
Why pay for access to someone else's stuff when you can do it yourself and integrate it better. Someone posted a link on one of these map threads that google and their limited access is what made the native app so sucky and wouldn't allow turn by turn through it.
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So why are people convinced Google will release an iOS app when iOS 6 launches? They are going to give a Google Map app to ios users for free that has the same features as androids app, but they wouldn't let Apple update their stock app for the past two years? That is nonsense. Google has said they want to reach as many iOS users as they can. No, what is happening here is Apple got the idea that they should get into mapping and one-up Google, while hindering user experience. Let's not upgrade our stock maps experience because we are secretly working on our own maps that will blow people away in 2012. Too bad their maps suck and are a downgrade from Google Maps. They don't care though. Now they can save money because they don't have to pay Googke. They will just promise better features down the road.
 
Frankied22 said:
So why are people convinced Google will release an iOS app when iOS 6 launches? They are going to give a Google Map app to ios users for free that has the same features as androids app, but they wouldn't let Apple update their stock app for the past two years? That is nonsense. Google has said they want to reach as many iOS users as they can. No, what is happening here is Apple got the idea that they should get into mapping and one-up Google, while hindering user experience. Let's not upgrade our stock maps experience because we are secretly working on our own maps that will blow people away in 2012. Too bad their maps suck and are a downgrade from Google Maps. They don't care though. Now they can save money because they don't have to pay Googke. They will just promise better features down the road.
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Do your research and you'll see Apple didn't take steps to develop their own mapping software, until they ran into roadblocks with Google in implementing Streetview. Steve Jobs was quoted as saying something similar to, "Maps are too important to the smartphone experience to rely on a third party who is also a competitor."
 
DodgeV83 said:
Do your research and you'll see Apple didn't take steps to develop their own mapping software, until they ran into roadblocks with Google in implementing Streetview. Steve Jobs was quoted as saying something similar to, "Maps are too important to the smartphone experience to rely on a third party who is also a competitor."
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Again, why would Google roadblock features for iOS maps when they view iOS users as very important. They certainly couldn't have been asking for as much money as it costed Apple to get their own maps. Apple maps is still using third parties (C3, TomTom, etc)

I don't expect a Google Maps app that is just like androids. It won't happen.
 
Can anyone check if Apple Maps has updated its map of Africa yet? In the presentation, they had the map of the world, but it had one huge glaring error: it didn't count South Sudan as being separate from Sudan, even after they are now recognized as an independent country as of last year.

Small thing, I know, but it would really help to know how accurate/updated Apple Maps are, compared to the gold standard (Gmaps).
 
AIP5 said:
Can anyone check if Apple Maps has updated its map of Africa yet? In the presentation, they had the map of the world, but it had one huge glaring error: it didn't count South Sudan as being separate from Sudan, even after they are now recognized as an independent country as of last year.

Small thing, I know, but it would really help to know how accurate/updated Apple Maps are, compared to the gold standard (Gmaps).
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Just checked and it does not currently have Sudan split.
 
Im going to actually complain this time. At first I loved it but after using it today, nope.

Currently as a beta, the freakin maps app doesnt know what the hell street addresses are. I got a delivery job and I have to put in house addresses in the nav. All it freaking does is send me to the street but not the home. What good is that?!?!?!?!? This isnt the 90's, Im not trying to drive 10 under the speed limit looking for tiny address signs.

Im sure it will know how to do actual home addresses by release date. If it doesn't, then Apple is seriously and incredibly stupid.
 
LostSoul80 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Beta



Alpha-versions aim at adding and developing most features. When a Beta version is rolled out, that's just to check whether the app/OS needs some performance improvements and the like.
This is what Beta means. And if you think Apple can map the entire planet better than Google from now to this fall, you're just a blind fanboy.
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Please tell me where the maps app is not feature complete? It is! It is not complete on the Data side and just about EVERY company says in a beta state that some data is temporarily there and is not the final data.

Though do not think I'm saying Apples maps will be better than googles. It won't. Though I do believe some of the maps data will be different.

Though in all honestly almost no company follows the "true" definition of a beta. I've worked for some Software companies as a QA tester. During beta state a lot of them were working on features that were not complete. Heck that's even where some bugs come from!
 
Frankied22 said:
Again, why would Google roadblock features for iOS maps when they view iOS users as very important. They certainly couldn't have been asking for as much money as it costed Apple to get their own maps. Apple maps is still using third parties (C3, TomTom, etc)

I don't expect a Google Maps app that is just like androids. It won't happen.
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Lol so you're either not doing your research like the guy before you said or you're ignoring it, either way you don't get it. The facts are there as to why. See this link - https://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15067907

Google will put out a maps app, what abilities it has is down to google. Tho I doubt they'll give it turn by turn.
 
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Looks like King's Cross Central maps got updated. A lot more street names.
 
i know apple maps will work better in USA, UK, China but it will not provide maps and locations in most of countries.
 
The Phazer said:
The data is completely unchanged, the default level of streetnames shown at the default magnification has just been upped slightly.
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Not true at all. There is entirely new data now Beta2 where it did not exist no matter how far you zoomed in Beta 1. That's been confirmed by several people.
 
newagemac said:
Not true at all. There is entirely new data now Beta2 where it did not exist no matter how far you zoomed in Beta 1. That's been confirmed by several people.
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My point exactly. Thank you.

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The Phazer said:
The data is completely unchanged, the default level of streetnames shown at the default magnification has just been upped slightly.
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It changed in Beta 2. About time iOS 6 is out, I guess this thread will be irrelevant and maps WON'T be a disaster. :)
 
ECUpirate44 said:
Apparently you don't understand what a beta is.
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Lol...Apparently, it's apple's preferred way of selling software now.
We got FCPX, we got Siri, and now we get this map folly.
Apple should be paying people to test their software rather than charging them for the privilege of using betaware.
And I suspect that their maps offering will be as useless as Siri is outside the US.
 
nfl46 said:
They should really ban some people from using BETA software...they should start with the OP.

You act like Apple can't update the maps before GM is released. :rolleyes:
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And they should ban those that really think apple can make up for years on mapping.

I give apple 5 years to be close
 
Luis Ortega said:
Lol...Apparently, it's apple's preferred way of selling software now.
We got FCPX, we got Siri, and now we get this map folly.
Apple should be paying people to test their software rather than charging them for the privilege of using betaware.
And I suspect that their maps offering will be as useless as Siri is outside the US.
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Do you even own an iPhone? DO you know the point of 'betaware'? More than Apple it is the developers that benefit from it.

Developers get a chance to debug their programs as well as add new features with the new API's. This means when iOS 6 comes out they have a brand spanking new app ready for the market.

People dont pay the 99$ to test apples software, they pay 99$ so they can test their own apps on the software.
 
lol, looking back at OP's point about "maps being a disaster". What a spoiled ass he sounds like. I just laughed at those pictures he posted up thinking "does this guy REALLY think apple is going to release an app where the entire image is a blur and that africa is labeled as an ocean?"
 
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