Thanks...just tried restoring to the Beta with both a simple restore and by putting it in recovery modes. Unfortunately it didn't work.
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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.
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Thanks...just tried restoring to the Beta with both a simple restore and by putting it in recovery modes. Unfortunately it didn't work.
If all you want is googlemaps back, you don't need to downgrade, just put a googlemaps bookmark on your homescreen, sorted.
IMO Apple needs to step it up on the software side. Maps, Siri, Passbook all have issues. I did a google search on iPhone 5 reviews in the last week. Nearly every one I read gave high marks in the hardware side - design, display, camera, speed, battery, etc. - and were very much 'meh' on the software side. Maps and Passbook don't seem ready for prime time but Apple touted them as major features. And I don't remember them saying either one was beta like they did with Siri. Clearly maps is a beta product.
While that gives you most of the features back, it's still missing streetview.
This will not replace all the features of the Google maps native app. Also, it isn't a fix for all the apps that use the built-in maps view.
I used google maps a lot when I was driving out of the city. Google maps was super accurate, fast and gives a lot of details. Now the Apple maps does not even provides directions in my country. All I can do is watch satellite images of my area when I'm bored.
interesting article on google maps and how they got to where they are today.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19536269
Seems street view was the project that makes them so good.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19536269
Seems street view was the project that makes them so good.
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If that actually sorted it, no one would be complaining.
I downgraded. Problem solved.
Excellent article.
It seems like Apple Maps is essentially where Google Maps was about 5 years ago. Google has incorporated so much data in that time, there is just no realistic way Apple can catch up in the near future.
As others have said, this was an emotional decision by Apple, and emotional decisions usually end up being bad decisions when it comes to business.
Frankly, in addition to the accuracy and detail of the maps themselves, it's the layers that sets Google Maps apart:
If you hear and read words like that and feel it provides you enough facts to make a decision then I would say you based your decision on some pretty vague and fact-less words. Hey, we all make decisions differently. No where in there does that statement provide me enough information about it as related to any functionality.
I'm not judging, I'm making a statement back to you as it relates to a series of quotes you provided to me in your response. Those were facts you pointed out and I responded with my opinion on them and my opinion on how you interpreted them. If you don't like my opinion, don't read or respond to it.
Next time I go to the grocery store and the strawberries aren't up to previous weeks flavor or selection, I'll call you to argue with the manager for me. Dude, things change, products evolve and it's the role of the consumer to use the facts provided and to know when not to assume. In this case if anyone assumed the new maps application was going to be just like it was before sprinkled with a little Apple Magic, then they are making what I consider to be a less than informed decision.
I had/have expectations about new products too, but like you, I'm a designer and engineer and I look for facts. Marketing launch pitches and hype is not factual. It doesn't matter if it's iOS 6 or a completely different product. Take the camera.....the 4s and iP5 camera is actually not very good. The optics are of poor quality and the internal processing of the jpegs not good. I can make that statement based on the facts I've seen both from Apple and my own use (I am a professional photographer). I don't believe the hype Apple spews about it. Again, look at the facts. Yet many think it's a great piece of gear. They have no concept of poor bokeh or poor processing and clipped highlights.
If they aren't present enough for you to make a decision and you don't wait for them, then you own that decision.
How can anyone defend maps when the user experience has gotten worse not better? I don't care that it's version 1.0. The end-user should not have to be a guinea pig for their beta software. And everyone saying Steve Jobs would not have allowed this.... what exactly would he have done? Become Google's b*tch while they percefct this? Not likely considering he wanted to go thermonuclear on them. But the end-user doesn't care about Apple's feud with Google. They just want a map app that doesn't suck.
Totally unrelated to your post but kind of awesome to see another resident of South Florida on Macrumors. I live in South West Florida. Sorry. Really random I know
Dully noted. Your opinion boils down to this it seems : "This is not Apple's fault". As such, I guess you've just nailed it right there : your opinion can safely be ignored as it is simply "damage control" for Apple, which you aren't even paid to do.
And now we have ridiculous analogies. Why argue with the manager, he's not ******** out the strawberries. Argue with God for not providing the same conditions for the crops.
Except Apple aren't mythical flying spaghetti monsters. They didn't have to ship Maps in this state, they didn't have to provide a sub-par experience whereas before the experience was better.
Welcome to my ignore list though, with the rest of the "Apple does no wrong crowd! It's you guys that have too much expectations from such a big company!".
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Steve Jobs would probably have done the same thing. He did in the antenna issue and in other areas. Apple have not batted 1000 all this time. Steve sold you the idea that the product was great and sometimes, it ended up a flop.
This one just happens to be high visibility, whereas some of the more recent flops were easier to get under control. Ping anyone ? MobileMe ? Optional services. Apple Maps ? Every iOS 6 users gets this. A bit harder to ignore, especially since Maps are a bit more essential than a music social network or yet another cloud solution of which there's 2 dozens already.
If anything, Steve would have stood up on stage, showed us plenty of examples of mistakes in Google Maps, saying Apple maps is a work in progress and it would have been that. Like the antenna, you'd know then and there that complaining to Apple would be futile. Either you lived with it or move on (with no free Bumper this time).
Not at all, I'm not at all saying anything about Apple and fault I'm pointing to users and their role in how they make the decisions. Again, I question whether you looked at solid facts or based yours on preconceived expectations and marketing hype. Your call if that's a good decision making process for you. I think we're all clear that you didn't make a good decision as you continue to vent your unhappiness with it.
Take your argument and apply it to Apple. They provided you a mapping application, use it. Don't like it, don't use it and go to the App Store where over 750k other apps including some much better POI and Mapping solutions exist. Just make sure you don't just read the marketing hype when you make your decision on which one to use.
You're right, I bet there's thinking they should have just done nothing and taken the flack from that solution. As a designer you know that the design is never going to please everyone and is never a 100% completed solution as there will always be improvements that could be made. However, you put it out there, get feedback, respond and improve. If you don't ever want to put it out there, then that's your call.
Again, love the finger pointing solely to Apple. Yep, your role in the matter doesn't carry any weight at all
You're right. Only I grew up with a mindset that it's okay to try and not succeed because through that comes great things. Perhaps you got beat for not coming home with A+'s every time. I bet you blamed the teach every time too. I look forward to how you like the over 2 dozen other mapping solutions out there too.
I think by stating it was completely new from ground up and being pretty clear that this is no longer the maps you knew in prior versions that Apple was pretty transparent. Again you and others make the assumption and set your own expectations that it was the same as before without seeing any actual facts or proof. What they showed wasn't what you are complaining about so don't go pointing to that.
Work in progress my ass they really showed with these map stuff they care about the money A LOT and dont give a **** about the consumer because they know a bunch of imbecils will line up to buy even a "iTurd" and they still will defend apple if they say the smell will go away.
http://www.cultofmac.com/192350/how-apples-obsession-with-google-is-hurting-apple/
This guy pretty much nailed it.
This guy pretty much nailed it.
Apple should have included a warning for those who were upgrading to iOS6 that google maps would be lost. I just saw an upgrade was available and without knowing, foolishly thought everything would be better.
I use maps w traffic all the time. Now it's gone and I still have 8 months left in my contract. Apple should allow us to revert back to the old firmware. When I called they said this was not possible.
I'm a truck driver and use the map app all the time for Route planning I do not use the turn by turn because I have a trucker GPS i do like the apple map app better then google app and I'm running up to 650 mils a day it seems to be More accurate for trip planning but that's one mans Opinion
Here's my take on the beta thing. When a product is in beta, you get beta testers. A small group that wants to try it out and report issues. The rest of the mass is left to still do things they old way until the product is in final release.
A beta version of anything shouldn't be forced on someone that needs or wants the product to function. But we are. We are forced to use a sub standard product.
Apple doesn't force out beta versions of their new OS. They seed to people that WANT to use beta versions and find bugs and develop stuff. If they forced out beta versions of iOS to the mass then there would be a whole lot of pissed off people that had their phones doing bad things.
I fail to understand why people give Apple a free pass on stuff like this just because they (the users) ad that it's a beta. Beta means not for public release.
In the keynotes for the last 5 phones, Apple made huge claims and said these things were the greatest thing on the planet. Then when the product sucks (Siri and Maps) they add that it's beta and the Fanboys just say ok, cool.
Would you think based on their description that it would be as bad as it is?
Beautifully designed from the ground up (and the sky down), Maps changes the way you see the world. Map elements are vector based, so graphics and text are incredibly detailed — even when you zoom all the way in — and panning is smooth.
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One other point to make to the people that say this is a beta.....
Where did you get that? If you got it from some tech blog or by watching the keynote or some interview....then where would the average user get that information?
Look here: http://www.apple.com/ios/maps/
That's the Apple web page about Maps. There is no mention of anything being in beta. One would have to assume that this is a product that works as advertised, which it clearly doesn't.