And are you doing that or are you just moaning and groaning in a web forum?
90+ pages and I'll be that no more than a handful of people actually bothered to contact Apple directly.
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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.
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And are you doing that or are you just moaning and groaning in a web forum?
90+ pages and I'll be that no more than a handful of people actually bothered to contact Apple directly.
That's OK. The thousands of other people grumbling here and elsewhere will create enough of a PR headache that Apple will get the message.
... Not that I expect anything to come out of it, though. Apple's burned that bridge, and I'm starting to think that google's going to withhold streetview as a strategic "android-only" feature (it's one of the few features that Apple would have significant issues duplicating, if google further enhances it to include POI minutiae like building entrances, stairwells, parking garage entrances/exits, mall entrances, exact location of businesses inside a building, national park info like vistas and bathrooms, and tons of other useful information).
Did I say anything about the globe? No. Alot of people in this tread were talking about their own areas, so I shared about my area. Bully for you that you visit the area, I live here.
Estate? Most of us live in houses or apartments or flats. Are you the Earl of Newbury?
You never heard of a housing estate? Or you just being facetious?
Look at this example.
The Street View car is clearly in the third lane of this road, yet I can zoom in and read the sign which is in a lay-by very clearly.
The nearest 3D imagery in Apple's Maps is over 150 miles away.
You'll note that as the "P" symbol is not displayed in the top left hand corner of this sign, the limited waiting restriction is unenforceable - information that someone might find useful.
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When they taught what? That competition was an inherent part of free markets? On the contrary I remember that part quite well.
That would make sense if not for one little problem... Google doesn't care about beating the iOS with Android. They only care about information.
The more people that use any of their products, the more information they can gather, and the more they can charge to advertisers.
They couldn't care less if people are using their maps on Android or on iOS, they're collecting the data and making their money from advertisers either way.
That's really no consolation frankly. Take a look at the satellite images of Reading on Apple Maps. They are so low res they are completely illegible. Also while it's true the default image for our area is years old on Google, it's a bug, not a lack of data. If you select historical imagery on maps.google.com it immediately shows a much more current satellite image.
Only good in Texas and the few other locations reported as good, but a disaster in the rest of the world.
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Unfortunately, I agree with your first sentence in this (partial) quote, in that I believe that Apple will keep this product in the public arena, rather than reverting to beta testing as it should.
It's apparent that the Apple community both those that seem to have a need to defend the product & others like me who have enjoyed Apple products for a long time now, would assist them when able to improve their offering until it was ready for wider release.
With this in mind, I won't be giving the topic a rest, because it needs to be kept in the public eye to force Apple to make some kind of decision and public statement.
If you take it as read that Apple Maps is here to stay, then the best ideal scenario for me is that Google create & Apple quickly approve a standalone Google Maps application (with Street View) and that Apple allow the customer the right to make their own choice as to which one they integrate with other iOS apps.
That's what I'm looking for and I hope the issue stays in the public eye until Apple tells us what's next.
That's exactly my point, I'm surprised that there are so many people who are only concerned with what happens within a few miles' radius of their home.
Even if they have no intention of travelling anywhere, that they have no compassion for the obvious problems people are facing across the rest of the world. As an example, in iOS 5 there were only a few restaurant applications that I used which relied completely on maps, there are other people that use running, cycling, taxi etc apps every day which they have paid for & are now completely useless. For others, where maps are really bad, Apple have even screwed themselves over by rendering their location-based Reminders and Find My Friends apps, for example, equally as useless.
Even though every consequence of Apple's decision doesn't directly affect me, I care about the wider picture.
The guy was just making a joke. I'd imagine he comes from a country where to him (and others) an estate is something that is centred with a big mansion in rolling acres of land and owned by Baron, or an Earl, or a Lord or something.
For clarification, for the rest of the forum a housing estate in the UK is what others might call perhaps a housing development, where all of the houses have been built in a similar style by the same builder in a certain suburb of a town.
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I'm going to put my maps app in a folder so I'm constantly reminded of how useless it is. I feel lost without a functioning map/transport/business search app and although the safari workaround does work, it isn't a substitute for the app.
I'm going to try to move on, but will definitely consider other options to an iphone when I need to upgrade. It was such an important and useful part of the iphone - being able to click on a contact's address, using Reminders to remind me of something when I leave/arrive at a location, Find my friends and find local shops and businesses when I'm in an unknown area. None of that works reliably anymore.
I'm a little sad, actually. And angry too.
I'm going to try to move on, but will definitely consider other options to an iphone when I need to upgrade. It was such an important and useful part of the iphone - being able to click on a contact's address, using Reminders to remind me of something when I leave/arrive at a location, Find my friends and find local shops and businesses when I'm in an unknown area. None of that works reliably anymore.
I'm a little sad, actually. And angry too.
I sold my iPhone 4 a month ago and have not received my 5 yet. I can still easily survive without having a smartphone at all and I really feel pity for those who depend that much on it.
On the other hand, must be an exciting live to go to new locations everyday, find new shops and stuff.
and btw. did they remove location based reminders in iOS6?
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I don't think it's so much that we depend on it, in that we actually physically could not live without it.
It's more to do with what's been taken away, in that for many of us, we had a fantastic additional capability on our phone which made our lives very much easier.
Based upon a corporate decision, this feature has now been significantly degraded. What makes it even more frustrating, is that the previously full featured app is commonly available still on many other brands of smartphone.
When I come to renew my contract, if we don't have the choice to reinstate Google Maps, I will probably still end up going iPhone, but for the first time in a long time, I will take a look at the market before finally committing to that decision.
I posted an article yesterday regarding a journalist that has spent over 12 years reporting on and owning Apple products and if he can make the decision to move, I should at the very least consider it if nothing changes.
Something I never knew I wanted before it was presented to me in the palm of my hand, has now become an extremely useful addition to my life, making it far easier to hook up with friends, discover new places etc & therefore, far more enjoyable.
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I can survive without one too, but I've come to appreciate the flexibility it affords me when I'm out and about in London and travelling in unfamiliar territory here and abroad. Sometimes it's exciting, but most of the time it's just convenient and an easier way to get around and find places quickly.
No they didn't remove the location based reminders, but since the maps are inaccurate and unreliable, reminders are useless now.
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iOS maps is actually more accurate than Google maps where I am. However, as somebody noted above, my main issue is readability (seriously - white roads on a very pale tan background? Micro location icons?). So I hope as Apple revises and updates their maps app, that they will work on the design as well.
Thanks for posting this, but what a disappointing read.
Apart from his comment where he (Google Chairman Eric Schmidt) says, "We want them to be our partner. We welcome that".
The rest of his comments come across as rather childish, as if this were some kind of playground squabble affecting just a few people.
These guys need to grow a pair, get round the table and come up with a solution that is best for everyone, especially us as Apple customers.
maps:// and youtube://
If entered in IOS 5's Safari's address bar, maps:// and youtube:// each will launch the complete app, not a web version.
The youtube:// trick is the only way to have the Youtube app proper, on an purchased-in-China iPhone.
On an iPad, it launches the IPad version of Youtube not the low res iPhone version.
I am keeping well clear of IOS 6. But wondered what does happen in IOS 6 if you enter the above 2 addresses?
If entered in IOS 5's Safari's address bar, maps:// and youtube:// each will launch the complete app, not a web version.
The youtube:// trick is the only way to have the Youtube app proper, on an purchased-in-China iPhone.
On an iPad, it launches the IPad version of Youtube not the low res iPhone version.
I am keeping well clear of IOS 6. But wondered what does happen in IOS 6 if you enter the above 2 addresses?
So with iPad on IOS 6, does the high res iPad version of Yourtube launch, as happens on an iPad 2 with IOS 5?
No traffic info on the heart of Georgetown in DC
None in the heart of Georgetown in DC. Very frustrating.
None in the heart of Georgetown in DC. Very frustrating.
Your argument here would be valid if you were able to change the default, since your not its pretty clear Apple put the benefit of the company ahead of the user experience.
Its a sad day when its the competition going after the customers who want things to just work.
Apple Maps - Completely and Utterly Useless!
I am actually in awe at just how bad the map data is for my part of the world in the current Apple Maps. So little detail in terms of roads, whole towns/villages, supermarkets etc missing. The location details or descriptions of around 60-70% of shops, petrol stations, bars, restaurants, business premises etc are incorrect with most being on the wrong street, wrong side of the road, wrong end of the street etc.
As it stands Apple Maps is completely unusable for me and because everything in IOS6 is tied into Apple Maps this makes a large number of other functions on the phone useless too!
The only thing which will save this for me will be for Google to release a fully functioned IOS version of Google Maps and for Apple to allow you to select this as the default Maps program so that Siri, Contacts, etc can all be integrated with it.
I am actually in awe at just how bad the map data is for my part of the world in the current Apple Maps. So little detail in terms of roads, whole towns/villages, supermarkets etc missing. The location details or descriptions of around 60-70% of shops, petrol stations, bars, restaurants, business premises etc are incorrect with most being on the wrong street, wrong side of the road, wrong end of the street etc.
As it stands Apple Maps is completely unusable for me and because everything in IOS6 is tied into Apple Maps this makes a large number of other functions on the phone useless too!
The only thing which will save this for me will be for Google to release a fully functioned IOS version of Google Maps and for Apple to allow you to select this as the default Maps program so that Siri, Contacts, etc can all be integrated with it.
Actually, that wouldn't really help anyway, because all of the OS calls to the Map Kit API are going to go to the Apple Maps instead of the almost infinitely more useful Google Maps. It's true that it isn't a big deal to hide the Maps app and replace it with something that, you know, actually works. But all of those dining apps and social media apps and shopping apps that have an option to find a place and show a map of how to get there will still use Apple Maps, no matter what else you install (unless a jailbreak is available that redirects such things, which I think might be just what I'm waiting for).
Apple's walled garden kind of relies on customers trusting the contents of the garden. The usual defenses for the controlled Apple ecosystem and lack of configurability are that the user experience is all-important and Apple products "just work." The massive rollback in map functionality contraindicates both arguments, and Apple deserves every second of the negative press that they're receiving as a result.