You keep talking about 'it was your responsibility to check these things before you upgraded / purchased', 'I always plan ahead when I travel', 'I do this, I do that etc etc etc'. There are not many superior beings on the planet like you. Most people aren't quite so organised. Sometimes people do things on the spur of the moment without planning ahead; that's part of what makes the world an interesting place.
So you're upset that I point out and speak for only myself as apposed to those addressing me who do the same about their woes and boo-hoos? Interesting.
I never said there weren't spur of the moment decisions, but when it comes to a point that it has negative impacts such as upgrading and losing features, I'm sorry if I look at the counter point and that is perhaps not just blaming others. Do you not ever make a decision and and say to yourself perhaps you shouldn't have acted so abruptly and in turn not continue to simply point elsewhere?
You mentioned many pages ago that a 65 yr old lady should have made sure that the update wouldn't do anything detrimental to her needs and that she's to blame for thinking maps are now 'broken'. She didn't do her research first. Really?! Give the lady a break.
Don't imply that I am lashing out at her or her decision (I am taking it that way) as I was not. That situation was tossed back at me via someone who quoted my previous point and then posed it as if what happened to her was 100% due to Apple. I simply disagreed and pointed out that perhaps she (fill in anyone else) in her place, has a role to play before upgrading. Is that so wrong? Does her age matter? Come on, can you really blame only Apple for what she did and as a result happened to her?
The iphone is a mass market consumer device, very few people who use one are as perfect as you and maps is a good example. Too much effort is required to get a reasonable result out of it, so it's crap. I agree that it has plenty of potential and will come good sooner or later, but at the moment it's crap.
I've never said I'm perfect. Would my counterpoints mean more to you if they were about my brother or a friend of a friend or a coworker or would it be best if I speak only of myself and what I've done? Again, everyone I've bantered with speaks of themselves and what impacts them and how their lives are messed up so what I can't talk about my interactions and dealings?
You can call the resulting product crap. I guess to you it is.
Type in The London Eye in Apple Maps then do it in Google. The results are worlds apart. I know what you'll say; 'it works fine if you exclude THE from the search'. Most peoples brains just don't think like that, and nor should they have to (for better or for worse) when using something such as an iPhone.
I will do it later but you assume what I am going to say based on what? My past responses that there's actually more than one 15th St. in NY? That when a location is not correct yet clearly shows (approximate)? Have I not looked at other examples and noted that I recognize the errors? I recall the pub in Glasgow conversation well. I even made a joke about it. I even stated that clearly there's a database or programming issue in the UK and more so non-US locations.
It's just so sloppy and the first impression that it has given a lot of people is a negative impression and their faith is eroded. Once faith is eroded then it takes a lot to earn it back. There are so many obvious problems with the maps around the world, when used by 'normal people'. Apple didn't do a good enough job of communicating in advance, that the map app would be as different as it is.
I agree with the above and have in the past posts when it's brought up. I've even said Apple could have done a better job and provided two of my own opinions on how.
I have no idea how many millions of people have iPhones but to think that each and everyone of them should do research and read all the small print in advance is just not realistic!
I've never asked the above occur. However, regardless of how many iPHone are in use, users still need to understand that when they choose to push upgrade at 1pm on the day of release they are doing so with their own will and without any realistic basis for doing so other than what I called blind faith. I called it that and clearly pointed to the Antenna Gate and 4s/5.0 launch as two examples from that past that clearly show a need to be wary of upgrading so quickly. Don't you think those two very recent incidents should have been a clue that Apple isn't the almighty perfect company that people seem to be claiming they are?
I'm not angry and I don't feel deprived; like you, I know there are alternatives and I can do everything I need to do without using Apple Maps... I just think it's a pathetic attempt at a map app that they should have held onto a little longer at least.
Cool. In terms of the app, we can all share opinions on it and when they should have released it but until we really know why, if we ever do, those comments are just opinions on less than clear decisions. My speculations is it has something to do with needing and wanting to separate from the Google control and costs and like all painful separations there's never a good time. Many here have said it will be a while if ever that they have a stellar product so by those points, should they hold off for years? Or perhaps should they just break the bond and begin improving? Again, I stand by that positioning is important and making a break now is likely better than later when perhaps they will be more vulnerable to other factors. Just an opinion.
Your mileage may vary of course, but there's no point trying to continuously prove people wrong on here because you simply won't be able to reason with them because not everyone is as perfect as you and they've had a rocky start to their relationship with the new Maps app...
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm simply replying with questions for thought and my own points. Sorry if that rubs you wrong. Do you see anything wrong with that vs a group of people bitching just the same about maps, apple, the phone or others with differing viewpoints?
Please stop implying that I convey an attitude of perfection. I simply pose the opposite view to spark further conversation and debate as hearing from yet another person that what apple did was horrible and is causing their world to end or that the phone is now junk. Sorry but standing around and wallowing in our own situation is pretty boring and quite frankly not helping anyone. Heaven forbid someone take the opposite stance.
