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Wow. Apple Maps is a disaster.
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The community's focus on this issue is influencing Apple's image. Even if you don't directly give them feedback, all this discussion about it is a form of indirect feedback. It'll get back to them and they'll know how we feel.
Right, and right now now one knows why Google maps is no longer there. There is speculation, but has there been any firm statement from either side?
Even if Google released Maps for iOS 6, Apple refuses to let its users to choose their own default apps, so it's pointless, especially when tapping links - everything will auto-default to Apple's version. This is a disaster and Apple should have swallowed its pride about this. In fact, this is grounds for an outright switch to a better platform that doesn't wall off its own users.
Oh you got that right. I've already made my choice - in 6 months, whatever is the best Android phone, that's where I'm going. There's nothing that iPhones do better than Android at this point, and now that Maps is way worse, why would I buy another iPhone? It's pointless.
How's the above any different that what they did to me and many others that felt the same way about the previous google maps?
In my case I never used the old one as it never offered turn by turn. To me that's the whole point of having a map on a mobile device. I don't need to visually see where a Starbucks is, just let me search for it and press navigate so that my phone shows me but more importantly speaks to me.
It drove me nuts prior to using Motion X GPS Drive to pull up a contact, press their address and then have my iPhone expect me to watch a map as I drive hoping to follow the route. Screw that.....Motion X>select contact>select the address in their file to go to>routing begins.
Well that's great! so for you, turn-by-turn is most important, and so you can stick with the iPhone! great. no argument with that.
However, a lot of us don't give a **** about turn-by-turn, or the transit directions were more important, or something else. The point is, rather than just adding turn-by-turn functionality to Google Maps, they took something away that makes a lot of us want to leave the iPhone. Why is that so hard to understand for so many people? Why are you trying to convince us we're wrong to want to buy an Android as a result? It's insane.
However, a lot of us don't give a **** about turn-by-turn, or the transit directions were more important, or something else. The point is, rather than just adding turn-by-turn functionality to Google Maps, they took something away that makes a lot of us want to leave the iPhone. Why is that so hard to understand for so many people? Why are you trying to convince us we're wrong to want to buy an Android as a result? It's insane.
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I had a Garmin long before I got the iphone. I continue to use the Garmin for actual navigation but always used the iphone to spotcheck recent address changes. Even if the actual POI wasn't in the Garmin, the iphone could get me the street address and I could just navigate to it instead. Pretty much the only time that would fail is if the roads themselves were recently built.
Turn-by-turn would have made the Garmin completely redundant at this point. As is, it's still quite useful, the only downside is I have to remember to take it inside to update the maps every few months.
Turn-by-turn would have made the Garmin completely redundant at this point. As is, it's still quite useful, the only downside is I have to remember to take it inside to update the maps every few months.
iMaps has less of some things and more of others.
It loses transit directions and google's search backend.
It gains turn by turn directions, and Yelp.
The net effect depends on how you value each one. To some it is a huge loss. To others it is a huge gain. To most it is not so large a loss since there are apps and other options, just like there were apps and other options to get around the limitations in the original gMaps.
Keep calm.
In my recent post I simply pointed out what many of those who are complaining aren't seeing is that the update didn't make the iPhone useless or hurt it's functionality for many. Quite the contrary.
I've also never suggested or tried to convince anyone going to droid is wrong. I respectfully request you don't infer or imply such things about me unless you can quote me on facts as they are not true. I've never said going to droid was wrong. In fact I've encouraged it for those that are so very distressed and seemingly not willing to wait for the data that is incorrect to be fixed.
In terms of removing the items, I will say it again, the old maps still exists for v5.1 and prior folks. Those that jumped on the updates day one perhaps will not be so dang quick to move next time. If they had waited even one day perhaps they would have heard the news stories or posts here or one of the other many many sites talking about the maps application. They made that choice though, not Apple.
Peronally, I don't even apply updates to my Desktop Windows 7 platform right away. I always research first and wait at least a week to see if any major issues pop up. Wasn't but maybe 2 years ago MS sent out a bunch of updates that corrupted some MS Office registrations. Never impacted me as I deleted those updates after reading about them.
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That guy, pdqgp, is the definition of Apple Fanboy. Nothing you say is going to change his mind. He's not interested in logic or reason.
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It gained yelp? It did a half-assed job of blending the two. I can search for a local restaurant on the yelp map, it shows the correct location on the map in the yelp app, I go to get turn by turn and apples moves the location 2miles east. No ****, Apples map actually stuck the joint in a retention pond.
Yelp:
Select open in maps app:
Actually, nothing they added can ever make up for the loss of map functionality. it's not like they just removed some functionality - for many people they removed the built in map functionality! This is a core app that provides data to many other apps. If the data is inaccurate all those apps become useless.
Excuse me? Fan boy? Really? You obviously don't follow the points in my posts very well. You could easily change my mind given the right conversation track. In fact during my entire contribution to this long thread I've softened my opinion on the level of impact the changes have had to some.
Fan boy...funny, I'm far from an Apple fan boy. Unless you consider holding people accountable for their roles in all this as part of the definition.
On the first day of iOS6 a search for United Nations in Yelp (web or app) would yield multiple duplicates around a 4 block radius. I don't know if it was related to my reporting, but today all the POIs are correct, and there are new POIs for many of the UN country missions. I've noticed that many other POIs are changing: being fixed, removed, deduped, etc. So Yelp seems to be trying to get its house in order, at least in NYC.
Oh, and iMaps reports the UN POI position better than even Yelp does. There is something going on behind the scenes that I don't quite understand.
Keep calm. Carry on.
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I understand that. But they also improved maps in other areas, namely China. Reading this forum you can see the example of vastly improved mapping in that country. It matters to a lot of them, I guess.
edit: found a link: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47692/apple-maps-is-better-than-google-maps
Again, I agree that Apple has to fix its bad mapping data, starting with the UK. But in terms of features, I think iMaps and gMaps are a wash. My preference is for the former since I think streetview is mostly useless and google is not nearly as good for transit info as dedicated apps anyways (I had posted on this subject way back in this thread with my example). But I know others disagree. My only point is that you win some, you lose some. But were workarounds for the bad gMaps experience in iOS before today, and there are workarounds for the bad iMaps experience today.
I also firmly believe that if having gMaps in its full glory is the killer feature for someone, there is never a reason not to go with an excellent android phone. Google will always have its best maps available then, regardless of how things are going with Apple.
Probably should have had a beta 5,6,7 then cause 4 wasn't enough.
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Who gives a crap about features when the whole point of a map is accuracy. If you don't have that who gives a **** if it gives you driving directions with a voice, 50/50 chance it could be wrong. It's like saying the camera app has nice settings but the aperture is broke. Does it matter what menu settings it has at that point?
Found my next phone. Rumor has it the maps even work! Imagine that.
http://gizmodo.com/5946141/samsung+made-galaxy-nexus-2-currently-in-testing
http://gizmodo.com/5946141/samsung+made-galaxy-nexus-2-currently-in-testing
When I pulled it up in iMaps on my iPad it does say (Approximate Location) so with that I clicked on Satellite view, saw it wasn't obviously there thus I wouldn't likely continue on with Navigating it.
I'm not sure why it says approx. location, but if it were me, I'd make a phone call to confirm where they are, reserve a table and then make note to either move on using iMaps or something else. Logical enough for you?
I think everyone's mileage is varying (clearly from the screen shots I posted), and a big reason why the LARGEST feature that was suppose to come from IOS 6 was maps, and not a dang word or commercial about it. Why? Cause they know it's a awful product and their desire to force Google off their system at the expense of their consumers has blinded them. Instead they're saying you should buy their $800 phone because the earphones were redesigned.
Where am I making excuses? I'm not overlooking their mistakes or removing blame. I'm using logic to make decisions and place accountability where it's due.
Plenty of tube stations seem to be missing altogether. Would have been nice if they'd have used the actual TfL symbols like most other maps do too. Unless you already know (in which case you wouldn't be looking in the first place), it's hard to tell the difference between an Underground station and a National Rail Station.